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Freemasons
    #4558971 - 08/20/05 12:19 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

does anyone know any info on Freemasons? i have been reading a few books that involve secret societies and i find them very interesting. just wondering if anyone has facts or links to good web pages about it. ty.


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Re: Freemasons [Re: LethalX5]
    #4558976 - 08/20/05 12:20 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Now they're gonna watch every move you make. You fucked up big time!


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Re: Freemasons [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4558980 - 08/20/05 12:21 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

freemasons are just another front for the Iluminati

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Re: Freemasons [Re: lowdominion]
    #4558994 - 08/20/05 12:23 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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lowdominion said:
freemasons are just another front for the DEA




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Re: Freemasons [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4559038 - 08/20/05 12:31 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

ok, but why do you say this. like where did you get it from. any page i found was just a bunch of crap that looked like it was put together bye a 12yr old. i just wondering like what they do? what they believe it? and so on. i know they aren't a secret society (because they are know publicly and donate to charities) but i don't understand what they are.


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Re: Freemasons [Re: LethalX5]
    #4559051 - 08/20/05 12:34 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Its like a fraternity for old dudes who are rich and don't have anything better to do then to participate in secret rites. At least thats what the entry level is like. The higher levels, I would imagine no ones knows except them.


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Re: Freemasons [Re: LethalX5]
    #4559053 - 08/20/05 12:34 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

yes most freemasons have no idea of whats going on in the inner circle of members

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Re: Freemasons [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4559059 - 08/20/05 12:36 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Its like a fraternity for old dudes who are rich and don't have anything better to do then to participate in secret rites. At least thats what the entry level is like. The higher levels, I would imagine no ones knows except them.




i didnt think they were old rich dudes. i was to understand that alot of the freemasons were trades men.


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Re: Freemasons [Re: LethalX5]
    #4559071 - 08/20/05 12:39 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

they recruit from all social classes

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Re: Freemasons [Re: lowdominion]
    #4559087 - 08/20/05 12:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Its mostly casual lunch and dinner meetings.


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Re: Freemasons [Re: LethalX5]
    #4559118 - 08/20/05 12:50 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Freemasons [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4559130 - 08/20/05 12:53 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I actually knew a man who was a Freemason at my last job, but he was young and certainly not rich! He actually wanted me to join the Freemasons, and I did end up applying for membership. I never heard back from them, though, so I may not be Freemason material :smirk:

The application process made the possibility of an extensive background check seem quite likely.

From what I gather, it is a fraternity for men where the importance is placed on helping eachother out and not disagreeing on anything. I think there's probably a lot more than that going on, but I doubt most of us would ever know for sure.

One thing they require every member to do is affirm their belief in "one creator" that they usually call "the Grand Architect" or something similar. My friend told me they would ask that early in the initiation and, if I said no, I would be asked to leave. He made a point of telling me that they would "never" ask me that question again, only the once. That seemed important.

He also said that it was mostly older men, and that they had stopped "actively recruiting" quite a few decades ago so they didn't get any new, younger, members. He was certainly in the minority. He was trying to get a whole group of younger men to join at once.


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Re: Freemasons [Re: trendal]
    #4559154 - 08/20/05 12:58 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

If your interested in the freemason's I suggest you read Martin Shorts "Inside the Brotherhood: Explosive Secrets of the Freemasons". Out of all the material I've read on freemasons this was by far the best.


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Re: Freemasons [Re: LethalX5]
    #4559389 - 08/20/05 02:04 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry

did you know that thirteen signers of the constitution and fourteen presidents of the US were Freemasons?

1 George Washington (Pres. 1789-1797)(MM 1753)
2 James Monroe (Pres. 1817-1825)(MM 1776)
3 Andrew Jackson (1829-1837)(MM 1800?)(Fedl #1 1830)
4 James K. Polk (Pres. 1845-1849)(MM 1820)
5 James Buchanan (Pres. 1857-1861)(MM 1817)
6 Andrew Johnson (Pres. 1865-1869)(MM 1851)
7 James A. Garfield (Pres. 1881)(MM 1864)
8 William McKinley (Pres. 1897-1901)(MM 1865)
9 Theodore Roosevelt (Pres. 1901-1909)(MM 1901)
10 William H. Taft (Pres. 1909-1913)(MM 1901)
11 Warren G. Harding (Pres. 1921-1923)(MM 1920)
12 Franklin D. Roosevelt (Pres. 1933-1945)(MM 1911)
13 Harry S. Truman (Pres. 1945-1953)(MM 1909)
14 Gerald R. Ford (Pres. 1974-1977)(MM 1951)


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Re: Freemasons [Re: LethalX5]
    #4559401 - 08/20/05 02:09 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I come from a long line of Masons and the like. Never thought about joining myself, though. It's sort of like a "good 'ol boys" club with a history.....

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Re: Freemasons [Re: ivi]
    #4559849 - 08/20/05 04:23 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Someone posted this a couple of months ago.




i am going to read this tonight. its 73 pages so i should get threw it fast but thank you alot. thanks everyone.

and i def will read that book you were talking about.


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Re: Freemasons [Re: LethalX5]
    #4559873 - 08/20/05 04:33 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

my grandpa was a mason, and and my uncle is as well. ive never really talked to them about, because they live so far away, and i havent visited them frequently since i was much younger and didnt care. i guess its in my family as well, although i havent much interest. i can say this much though, they certainly arent all rich, and i think a lot of myths about the wierd rights of passage are products of the secrecy and not really based in fact. however, like i said, i havent really ever asked either of them about it, so i may be wrong


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Re: Freemasons [Re: FL_accciD]
    #4559894 - 08/20/05 04:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

There are different degrees of Freemasonary. In the beginning they were nothing but crafted stone cutters building churches and cathedrals(sp?). I can assure you that today some levels of Freemasonary take what they do very seriously and try to keep their organizations/lodges very private. My grandfather was a Freemason I even have his ring but from what my mother tells me the group of Freemasons he was involved with were more of a social club than an organization trying to protect secrets.


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Re: Freemasons [Re: LethalX5]
    #4559900 - 08/20/05 04:45 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

The masons are the foundation.. or launching pad for all the other secret societies.


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Re: Freemasons [Re: Shroomism]
    #4559911 - 08/20/05 04:50 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

i dont know if id go as far as calling them the foundation for all secret societies, however at certain points in history the masons were tied informally with the illuminati...in that many of the illuminati were masons as well. they also had pretty close ties with the knights templar/


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