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Rolling Stones releasing war protest song
    #4558040 - 08/20/05 09:41 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Fucking A, baby. The Rolling Stones are raging against the machine. Mick gets mad props for doing this.

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Street-fighting 'Neo-Con' By Edna Gundersen, USA TODAY
Thu Aug 18, 7:46 AM ET



Sweet Neo-Con, Mick Jagger's scathing indictment of U.S. foreign policy, isn't just rankling conservatives. It rattled a usually unflappable firebrand.

The song, due Sept. 6 on the Rolling Stones' A Bigger Bang, wasn't warmly embraced by guitarist Keith Richards.


"I didn't want this to be a diversionary storm," he says. "I thought potentially it would detract attention from the rest of the album and be seen as cheap publicity. We don't need that. But I told Mick, 'If you really feel like you want to say that, I'll back you all the way.'


"If I'm going to write a song, politicians are the last subject I think of. Neo-Con is like an old headline. Nobody will know what it means in 10 years. I like the oblique angles like Sweet Black Angel or Street Fighting Man. This one is a bit of a finger-pointer, but what's wrong with a poke in the eye?"


Accusing the administration of hypocrisy, the song asserts, "It's liberty for all, democracy's our style/Unless you are against us, then it's prison without trial."


Jagger isn't dodging the lyrics' thrust. "I have my opinions, which I've stated in the tune. Maureen Dowd is no more qualified to have opinions than I am."


Jagger composed the song quickly, then watched jaws drop as he bounced it off bandmates and producer Don Was.


"Isn't that really what pop music should be about?" he says.


The Neo-controversy might never have ensued if more bands had topical rants in the marketplace. "Perhaps they don't because everyone says, 'How dare he have an opinion?' " Jagger says. "But whose opinion do you listen to? People on TV who have no qualifications."


Bang also offers social commentary in Rain Fall Down and Back of My Hand, but the joys and pitfalls of romance dominate.


"People can understand and empathize with love and broken hearts," Jagger says. "Writing a whole album about politics would not be a good idea, but I specifically tried to encompass a broader set of subjects."










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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Learyfan]
    #4558274 - 08/20/05 11:12 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Too bad the Rolling Stones are largely irrelevant to today's music scene. You know when they play this song live, people are just going to forget it, and ask them to play "Paint it Black."


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Silversoul]
    #4558303 - 08/20/05 11:26 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Huh? The Stones are permanently relevant. It's The Stones! They will definitely stir up some attention for the cause. Every little bit helps.





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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Learyfan]
    #4558348 - 08/20/05 11:39 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

They may still draw large crowds to their concerts, but who the hell listens to their new stuff?


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Silversoul]
    #4558358 - 08/20/05 11:43 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

They aren't even American. Why should we care what they think about the war.


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4558366 - 08/20/05 11:44 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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QuantumMeltdown said:
They aren't even American. Why should we care what they think about the war.



That has no relevance whatsoever. John Lennon was considered a threat by the establishment back in the 60's, and he wasn't American.


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Learyfan]
    #4558385 - 08/20/05 11:50 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I'm with you Learyfan. They don't have to do this and I'm sure it may piss of some of their whiskey drinkin good ol boy fans. Mick gets props.


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Silversoul]
    #4558401 - 08/20/05 11:54 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

It doesn't matter if people even listen to this song. The fact that The Rolling Stones are coming out against the war publicly will draw attention to the anti-war movement. If it didn't, no media outlet would have written about it.






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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Learyfan]
    #4558407 - 08/20/05 11:55 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, some aging old hippies are coming out against the war. This is news?


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: question_for_joo]
    #4558473 - 08/20/05 12:08 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup:  :thumbup:

I have renewed respect for The Stones.  Fight the power!






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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Silversoul]
    #4558500 - 08/20/05 12:15 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow, some aging old hippies are coming out against the war. This is news?




Who gives a fuck if they're aging? If he wasn't aging, he'd be dead. Mick Jagger is one of the most famous people on planet earth and he's coming out against the war. Of course that's news worthy.








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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Learyfan]
    #4558518 - 08/20/05 12:19 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Plenty of famous artists have come out against the war and not made a blip on the media radar. Ever hear of Neil Young? Of course the Rolling Stones were going to come out against the war. What would be newsworthy is if they didn't.


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4558526 - 08/20/05 12:21 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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They aren't even American. Why should we care what they think about the war.




Did you forget that England was our biggest ally in this war?





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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Silversoul]
    #4558542 - 08/20/05 12:26 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
Plenty of famous artists have come out against the war and not made a blip on the media radar. Ever hear of Neil Young? Of course the Rolling Stones were going to come out against the war. What would be newsworthy is if they didn't.




What do you mean? You act as if The Stones make their politics known contantly. They never speak out against anything like this, ever.

I think you're whole point is that this Stones song will not end the war. Did I say that it would? No I didn't. It will, however, raise some eye brows.






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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Learyfan]
    #4558555 - 08/20/05 12:30 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Another rock band criticizes the war!!!!!

I never thought I'd see the day!


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Redstorm]
    #4558561 - 08/20/05 12:31 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Another rock band criticizes the war!!!!!

I never thought I'd see the day!


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My thoughts exactly.


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Learyfan]
    #4559168 - 08/20/05 03:02 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Stones = Sellouts


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: Silversoul]
    #4559169 - 08/20/05 03:02 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Thank god that artists are using their voice to speak their opinion.
I don't think you realize how much power famous people have. Wouldn't it be a shame if they didn't use it? In the 18th century, famous authors in France such as Voltaire or Rousseau were practically responsible for the Revolution, their books were pure wake up calls, today things have changed, music and musicians are the main spokesmen of public opinion.

I say :thumbup:


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: exclusive58]
    #4559176 - 08/20/05 03:05 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Voltaire wasn't chargine 200$ a pop to see him in concert.


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Re: Rolling Stones releasing war protest song [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4559186 - 08/20/05 03:08 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

ya thats probably cuz voltaire wasn't a singer...

i get your point though.


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