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The Illuminati and the New World Order
    #4557950 - 08/20/05 07:54 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover

Why would the former director of the FBI make such a statement if conspiracies did NOT exist?

A Matrix-like conspiracy is hard to conceive because it would shake the core of our belief system. The core of what we believe is our country?s foundation. In reality, our nation is conspiracy after conspiracy after conspiracy. The United States government doesn't know how to tell its citizens the truth: only lies. The extent of government actions that are kept secret from the people could go beyond our wildest imagination. It could cause severe psychological stress and discomfort to such a degree that we would tend to discount the possibility of conspiracies even in light of the most conclusive evidence, just so that we do not have to face the facts. We would rather be taking the Blue Pill and not deal with it. That?s human nature and that?s what makes conspiracies feasible. Therefore, if you?re not ready to take the Red Pill and learn the truth, DO NOT read this column.



The Illuminati And The New World Order

"Masters of Deception"



Long ago, in 1776, a professor Adam Weishaupt of Ingolstadt, Germany founded a group he called the ?Illuminati? which is Latin for "the enlightened?. The declared goal of the Illuminati was to influence politics and government behind the scenes without political mandate. The Illuminati was to function in secrecy and without public visibility.

The Illuminati?s declared goal was to eventually bring about a ?New World Order? which means a One World Government and a One World Religion.

Obviously the Illuminati knew that this goal could not be reached overnight and would suffer many setbacks. They realized that their goal could only eventually be reached by a sophisticated network of secrecy and deception.

The idea of the New World order was immediately embraced and supported by the House of Rothschild, the oldest and most powerful Jewish banking dynasty of all time.

The symbol of the Illuminati is, and has been since the late 1700s, the pyramid with the ?all seeing eye? in the capstone. You can find this symbol on every One Dollar bill. Around it are the words ?Novus Ordo Seclorum? which means a ?new order shall emerge?. In other words, our dollar bill glorifies the idea of a New World Order.

You may ask, why in the world is there symbolism of secret societies on United States currency. The answer is simple and may shock you. Rest assured that you will never see this subject touched by CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, FOX, or any other source of the main stream media. They won?t tell you.

The United States and it?s people DO NOT OWN their money system. We have no control whatsoever over our money system. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Our Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE CORPORATION owned by, among others, the House of Rothschild. This is the case since 1910 when the Federal Reserve act was passed and allowed the Rothschilds to print all American Money.
Therefore, the Federal Reserve is far from being ?federal?.

What may shock you even more is that the Federal Reserve does not have any reserves. It creates money at will and is in the unique position to charge interest on that money. It is licensed to print, loan, set interest rates and collect interest. With this license the Federal Reserve throughout it?s history has created recessions, depressions and economic booms. This effectively has established tight economic control over the US for the Illuminati without the people of the US, nor the President, nor Congress, having any control whatsoever.

Today the Illuminati gave infiltrated all kinds of government. Look at the symbolism of the ?Information Awareness Office? of DARPA , the highly secretive Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. The all seeing eye and/or pyramid of the Illuminati can also be found in many corporate logos for example CBS and AOL.

This symbolism alone indicates that the media in this country is aligned with and/or controlled by Illuminati.

A major offspring of the Illuminati is the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). Most modern day presidents, senators, presidential advisors, and other public figures were members.

Other illuminati branches include ?Skull and Bones" whose membership is closely guarded and their meetings secret. Bush Sr. AND Jr. both are members. Their initiation involves laying naked in a coffin and telling of one?s deepest sexual fantasies, therewith creating a deep ?bond?.

Another secret society is the Freemasons which has 33 levels of initiations. Only in the LAST initiation does the candidate get involved in a blood oath in which he swears loyalty to Freemasonry even if it means having to kill his own family! Freemasons have been involved in American Politics since the beginning (just look at your US history books). George Washington was a Mason and so were Theodore Roosevelt, Harry Truman and Gerald Ford.

Here is an overview of the Illuminati organizations:
http://www.beverlyunderground.com/issue4/structure.jpg

As you can see, the Illuminati is the conspiracy of all conspiracies. Almost everything you know of is in on it: the CIA, KGB, FBI, and other intelligence agencies, various secret societies, large banking and money groups, some religions, and even political groups such as the United Nations. Remember the Illuminati's objective: to bring the world under a single government.



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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: exclusive58]
    #4557954 - 08/20/05 07:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Somebody needs to kick the Federal Reserves ass. Bitches.


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: exclusive58]
    #4557986 - 08/20/05 08:55 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I don't like to delve too much into the Illuminati/NWO conspiracy theory, because it might be accurate or completely inaccurate. And because most people who discuss it in seriousness are always looked at as fringes.

However, I've been leaning more towards the possibility that this does exist and is true. The motives behind the IAO come to mind and the technology they insisted on researching hint at the possibility of a future 1984 minded police state. The purpose of the IAO outraged both politicians from the left and right and they saw to it funding was cut off, but I doubt it doesn't exist anymore. If the NWO came about, with so many commonmen and so few rulers, they'd be outmatched and would need something to keep the people in line.


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: exclusive58]
    #4558282 - 08/20/05 11:18 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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exclusive58 said:
"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover

Why would the former director of the FBI make such a statement if conspiracies did NOT exist?



I would have to know the context in which he said that in order to even begin making such inferences.


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: Silversoul]
    #4558891 - 08/20/05 01:53 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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J. Edgar Hoover, from the Elks Magazine, August 1956: 'We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them... No one who truly understands what it really is can be taken in by it.. Yet the individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst.'




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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: bukkake]
    #4559063 - 08/20/05 02:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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bukkake said:
I don't like to delve too much into the Illuminati/NWO conspiracy theory, because it might be accurate or completely inaccurate. And because most people who discuss it in seriousness are always looked at as fringes.





I understand you, it seems to be kind of risky to bring up this conspiracy in a discusion because you usually end up having people look at you like you're crazy or something, however i too tend to think that the possibility that it exists is real, and i think this topic shouldn't be left in the dark.

We can start the discussion somewhere simple and concrete though...
Why the hell does the date "1776" show up on dollar bills? This date is the birth of the Illuminati. What about the all seeing eye and the pyramid? This is the Illuminati symbol. Why is there an owl hidden in a corner of the dollar bill? This is another one of Illuminati's symbol. Why does it say "New Order shall emerge" in latin on the dollar bill? This is Illuminati's objective...

there are lots of hints out there.


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: exclusive58]
    #4559113 - 08/20/05 02:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure about the Illuminati but, politicians even use the term New World Order so that pretty much takes it out of the conspiracy theory area. Freemasonry, PNAC, and Skull & Bones is more obvious but not so much the Illuminati.


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: trick]
    #4559178 - 08/20/05 03:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ya i think Bush senior was the president who spoke of the new world order the most. He's a member of skulls and bones...


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: exclusive58]
    #4559664 - 08/20/05 05:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Bush senior was the one who announced that the first gulf war was a step towards the NEW WORLD ORDER. His famous speech was on Sept 11, 1990. 11 years later to the day while his son is the president the global war on terror begins. Both are members of the Skull and Bones society. The bush family is blood related to the British crown as well.

Also check out the American dollar bill.. underneath the masonic seal there is a latin phrase, which roughly translates to "new world order".

I've never been one to believe in coincidence theory. Its a strange world we live in


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: J4S0N]
    #4559782 - 08/20/05 05:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I don't believe in it all either. No one is powerful enough to unite and maintain the world in one order.

No one runs me.

BTW the Illuminati = free masons????


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: Seuss]
    #4560390 - 08/20/05 09:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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J. Edgar Hoover, from the Elks Magazine, August 1956: 'We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them... No one who truly understands what it really is can be taken in by it.. Yet the individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst.'






Just as I suspected. Exclusive took that completely out of context to mean something totally different.


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: exclusive58]
    #4560453 - 08/20/05 09:36 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Why the hell does the date "1776" show up on dollar bills? This date is the birth of the Illuminati.



:rofl2: You don't know a damn thing about American history, do you?  Google the phrase "Declaration of Independence," and look up what year it was signed.


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: Silversoul]
    #4560484 - 08/20/05 09:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

BTW, if you're willing to look at the truth behind the symbols on the dollar bill rather than paranoid, uninformed conspiracy theories, you might want to look here.


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: Silversoul]
    #4560524 - 08/20/05 09:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Unbelievable as it sounds, there is a fraternity at Yale established in 1832 called the Skull & Bones society. Many prominent Americans belong to it, including George Bush Jr. and Sr. Their membership is publicly acknowledged. You can even read about it in back issues of the Yale Alumni Magazine. You can find the many references with a google search using the site:www.yalealumnimagazine.com skull bones search option. Even 60 Minutes did a documentary on it.

For those unfamiliar with fraternity initiation rituals, the initiation rites of the Skull & Bones society are shocking. Even for those that are familiar, the rituals seem too bizarre to believe, especially in a fraternity for the upper crust. However, they even been filmed by secret infrared camera. You can even see a small clip from the ABC news video.

As did every member of the Yale Skull & Bones fraternity, Bush Jr. and Bush Sr.:

Publicly sold their souls to Satan. Bush Jr. may have considered it a joke, but it is still a sick joke.
Publicly masturbated in a coffin in view of the other members of the fraternity.
Swore allegiance to Satan while touching a human skull.
Bowed before a man dressed as Satan.
Permitted a man to press a human femur (thigh bone) into his anus.
Publicly confessed the entire catalog of his lifelong sexual fantasies.
Chanted the mantra:
?The Hangman equals Death.
The devil equals death.
Death equals Death.?
~ George W. Bush
This seems utterly preposterous unless you lived in a frat house like I did and know something of how these rituals can evolve into further and further daring. Skull & Bones is definitely out there in right field, but it is not that much further out than what happened at UBC fraternities in the 60's ? e.g. walking naked with a marshmallow in the crack of the pledge's butt then having to eat it, or the limp biscuit, a circle jerk with the last guy to come having to eat the semen-covered biscuit.
One could argue no one believes in the devil, so it was all a harmless but daring prank. However, Bush at least publicly professes to believe in the fundamentalist Christian notions of God and Satan, so the ceremony would have been daring and perhaps even frightening for him.

However Skull & Bones is much more sinister than attempts to eBay the initiate's soul to the devil. Its members conspire to promote each other into positions of high office. That is the primary function of the order. This is the issue that the books about Skull & Bones primarily address. Bush has appointed 10 members of Skull & Bones to high posts in his administration, including Associate Attorney General Robert McCallum Jr. and SEC chief Bill Donaldson.

Bush Jr. also belongs to a fruitcake group called the Bohemian Grove. They are wealthy people who meet once a year to perform a mock human sacrifice to a 40 foot owl statue accompanied by Wagnerian opera and flames. There are allegations of sexual abuse, but no charges. There is even a poor quality video of the event, and here is a longer one.

Members of this kinky fraternity include: Senator Kerry, Senator Boren, Senator Jonathan Bingham, Senator John Chaffee (Former Navy Secretary and on the Senate Intelligence Committee), Senator John Heinz (ketchup), Henry Luce (Time Life), Henry Stimson (Mr. Pearl Harbour), George Bush Sr., Jeb Bush, Dean Acheson, Rutherford B. Hayes, William F. Buckley, Jr., McGeorge Bundy, Thomas Daniels (ADM), Dino Pionzio CIA deputy chief of station in Chile during the overthrow of Chilean President Salvador Allende), etc.

There is a ton of material available on the net about Skull & Bones. Just go to google and ask for Yale skull bones Bush. For added fun, add the word Louima the Haitian the New York cops anally raped with a broom. The initiation ceremony has an ad lib segment like the entertainment scene in the opera Die Fledermaus.

http://mindprod.com/politics/bushbooksskullandbones.html#SKULLANDBONES


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    #4560539 - 08/20/05 09:59 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The more one studies mind control, secret societies and the occult, the more one understands the subtlety and hidden symbolism of the Kennedy assassination.

James Shelby Downard's underground classic, "Sorcery, Sex, Assassination and the Science of Symbolism," links American historical events with a grand occult plan to "turn us into cybernetic mystery zombies." The assassination of JFK was a performance of the occult ritual called The Killing of the King, designed as a mass-trauma, mind-control assault against the national body-politic of the United States.

Mr. Downward's co-researcher and author, Michael A. Hoffman II, wrote in "Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare" that "fabled alchemy had at least three goals to accomplish before the total decay of matter, the total breakdown we are witnessing all around us today, was fulfilled and these are:

"The Creation and Destruction of Primordial Matter.

"The Killing of the Divine King.

"The Bringing of Prima Materia to Prima Terra."

Hoffman writes:


[The following excerpt is copyright (c) 1995 by Michael A. Hoffman II. All Rights Reserved. Used by permission.]

Since ancient times these were the goals of the Gnostic-Rosicrucian-Masonic-Hermetic Academy, an elite as real and corporeal as President Bush's Skull and Bones society at Yale University; the Bohemian Grove in California; Dr. John Whiteside Parson's Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) also in California; General Albert Pike's Scottish and Palladian Rites of Freemasonry and a host of lesser imitators. All of these cults have or had the highest possible offices, connections and old boy networks.

The Creation and Destruction of Primordial Matter was accomplished at the White Head ("Ancient of Days"), at White Sands, New Mexico, at the Trinity Site. The Trinity Site itself is located at the beginning of an ancient Western road known in old Mexico as the Jornada del Muerto (the Journey of the Dead Man).

Early in this century a Freemason named Peter Kern was ordered to build a highly symbolic "Gate of Death" at a key point on this ancient trail. It was known as the Gate with a Thousand Doors.

At the front of this gate Kern was ceremonially murdered (decapitated) by a hooded executioner. Gary Trudeau satirized the Aztec-masonic Comazotz head-chopping cult of the American Southwest in a series of December, 1988 "Doonesbury" cartoons which depicted Skull and Bones initiates trying to dispose of a number of heads including that of Pancho Villa, a key political operative of the cryptocracy who was in fact also ritually decapitated.

Other occult rituals for the Creation and Destruction of Primordial Matter were played out in the general area of the 33rd degree of north parallel latitude in Truth or Consequences, New Mexico. The Trinity Site is also at this latitude.

There are 33 segments in the human spinal column which according to occult lore is the vehicle of the fiery ascent of the Kundalini serpent force which resides in the human body. 33 is the highest degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry. Near the Trinity Site a derelict shack was symbolically dubbed "MacDonald House." The Creation and Destruction of Primordial Matter occurred exactly on the Trinity Site, the "Place of Fire," with the explosion of the first atomic bomb, culminating untold thousands of years of alchemical speculation and practice.

The Killing of the King rite was accomplished at another Trinity site located approximately ten miles south of the 33rd degree of north parallel latitude between the Trinity River and the Triple Underpass at Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas. Dealy Plaza was the site of the first masonic temple in Dallas. In this spot, which had been known during the 19th century cowboy era as "Bloody Elm Street," the world leader who had become known as the "King of Camelot," President John Fitzgerald Kennedy, was shot to death.

A widely publicized image which has become perhaps the key symbol of the enigma of the Kennedy hoodwink, emerged immediately in the wake of the assassination: a photograph three "tramps" in official custody, who were unexplainably released and never identified, though speculation about who they really were has reached fever pitch among investigators.

This photograph is a ritual accompaniment of the Black Mass that was the ceremonial immolation of a king, the unmistakable calling card of masonic murder, the appearance of Jubela, Jubelo and Jubelum, the three "unworthy craftsmen" of Temple burlesque, "that will not be blamed for nothing.' This ritual symbolism is necessary for the accomplishment of what James Shelby Downard and I described in the first edition of Apocalypse Culture, as the alchemical intention of the killing of the 'King of Camelot':

"...the ultimate purpose of that assassination was no political or economic but sorcerous: for the control of the dreaming mind and the marshaling of its forces is the omnipotent force in this entire scenario of lies, cruelty and degradation. Something died in the American people on Nov. 22, 1963 -- call it idealism, innocence or the quest for moral excellence. It is the transformation of human beings which is the authentic reason and motive for the Kennedy murder..."

The seemingly random and senseless slaughter of a President the week before Thanksgiving, by having his head blown apart in those now infamous Zapruder film frames, is the signpost of humanity's entry into what David Cronenberg in his Videodrome Rosicrucian cinematic manifesto termed, "Savage New Times."

The search for the three assassins has become a trip up and down Tim Finnegan's ladder, a ladder containing "one false step after another." It is a masonic riddle several magnitudes above the pedestrian, CIA-Mafia-Anti-Castro-Castro-KGB-Texas rightwing etc. etc. political "solutions" pushed by the various books and movies which sometimes only serve to confuse and demoralize us all the more.


The Alchemy of Ritual Murder

What ought to be unambiguous to any student of mass psychology, is the almost immediate decline of the American people in the wake of this shocking, televised slaughter. There are many indicators of the transformation. Within a year Americans had largely switched from softer-toned, naturally colored cotton clothing to garish-colored artificial polyesters. Popular music became louder, faster and more cacophonous. Drugs appeared for the first time outside the Bohemian subculture ghettos, in the mainstream. Extremes of every kind came into fashion. Revolutions in cognition and behavior were on the horizon, from the Beatles to Charles Manson, from Free Love to LSD.

The killers were not caught, the Warren Commission was a whitewash. There was a sense that the men who ordered the assassination were grinning somewhere over cocktails and out of this, a nearly-psychedelic wonder seized the American population, an awesome shiver before the realization that whoever could kill a president of the United States in broad daylight and get away with it, could get away with anything.

A hidden government behind the visible government of these United States became painfully obvious in a kind of subliminal way and lent an undercurrent of the hallucinogenic to our reality. Welcome to Oz thanks to the men behind Os-wald and Ruby.

There was a transfer of power in the collective group mind the American masses: from the public power of the elected front-man Chief Executive, to an unelected invisible college capable of terminating him with impunity.

For the first time in their history since the 1826 masonic assassination of writer William Morgan, Americans were forced to confront the vertiginous reality of a hidden power ruling their world. Sir James Frazer writing in The Golden Bough: A Study in Magic and Religion, explains that when the "divine king" is murdered by one who is himself stronger or craftier, those powers of "divinity" which were the king's are "Sympathetically" and "Contagiously" transferred from the vanquished to the victor.

The entry of this awareness into the subconscious Group "Dreaming" Mind of the American masses instituted a new simulacrum. The shocking introduction of a diametrically different, new "reality" is a classic scenario of another phase of alchemical programming known to the cryptocracy as "Clamores. "

Dave Marsh writing in Rolling Stone magazine (Feb. 24, 1977): "The Beatles have always had an intimate connection to the JFK assassination. He was shot the week before Thanksgiving 1963. By February 1964, the Beatles were number one in the national charts and the climactic appearance on Ed Sullivan's TV show occurred. Even Brian Epstein (the manager of the Beatles) believed the Kennedy assassination helped their rise -- the Beatles appeared to bind our wounds with their messages of joy and handholding... And the way was paved, replacing Camelot with Oz."

Now the American people were forced to confront a scary alternative reality, the reality of a shadow government, over which they had neither control or knowledge. The shepherding process was thus accelerated with a vengeance. Avant-garde advertising, music, politics and news would hereafter depict (especially in the electronic media) -- sometimes fleetingly, sometimes openly -- a "shadow side" of reality, an underground amoral "funhouse" current associated with extreme sex, extreme violence and extreme speed.

The static images of the suit-and-tie talking heads of establishment religion, government, politics and business were subtly shown to be subordinate to the Shadow State, which the American people were gradually getting a bigger glimpse of out of the corner of their collective eye. The interesting function of this phenomenon is that it simultaneously produces both terror and adulation and undercuts any offensive against it among its percipients, which does not possess the same jump-cut speed and funhouse ambiance.

There is a sense of existing in a palace of marvels manipulated by beautiful but Satanic princes possessed of so much knowledge, power and experience as to be vastly superior to the rest of humanity. They have been everywhere. They have done everything. They run the show which mesmerizes us. We are determined to watch it. We are transfixed and desperate to see their newest production, their latest thrilling revelation, even when the thrills are solely based upon the further confirmation of our dehumanization.

J.G. Ballard: "In this overlit realm ruled by images of the space race and the Vietnam War, the Kennedy assassination and the suicide of Marilyn Monroe, a unique alchemy of the imagination was taking place... The demise of feeling and emotion, the death of affect, presided like a morbid sun over the playground of that ominous decade."

The role assigned to us is that of zombies called upon by our shadow masters to perform bit parts and act as stock characters in their spectacular show. This mesmerizing process produces a demoralized, cynical, double-mind.

--"Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare," pp. 91-95.

("Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare" is available for U.S. $12.95 plus $2.50 shipping (overseas remit $5.00 shipping), from: Independent History and Research, Box 849, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 83816.)



The perpetrators deliberately murdered JFK in such a way as to affect our national identity and cohesiveness -- to fracture America's soul. Even the blatancy of their conspiracy was designed to show their "superiority" and our "futility." "They" were doing to the nation what they had been doing to individuals for years.

Looking into the subject of mind-control, one finds that the scope is wide and methods used are sophisticated. Mind control traces its origins to religious institutional use by priesthoods. Techniques of mind control developed in our western culture were field-tested by the Jesuits, certain Vatican groups, and various mystery religions, secret societies and masonic organizations. Methods tested during the Inquisition were refined by Dr. Josef Mengele during the reign of the Third Reich.

After World War II, thousands of Nazi scientists, researchers and administrators were "smuggled" into the United States against direct written orders from President Harry S. Truman, through Operation Sunrise, Operation Blowback, Operation Paperclip and other covert ops.

Soon afterwards, a mind control project called Marionette Programming imported from Nazi Germany was revived under the new name, "Project Monarch." The basic component of the Monarch program is the sophisticated manipulation of the mind, using extreme trauma to induce Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), now known as Disassociative Disorder.

In public testimony submitted to the President's Committee on Radiation, there are amazing allegations of severe torture and inhumane pogroms foisted upon Americans and other citizens, especially as children. These same children were used in radiation experiments. They detail the drug and traumatic methodology of sophisticated mind control. Candy Jones and Cathy O'Brien tell similar stories of brutal mind control experimentation as part of the CIA's MKULTRA program. Many mind control survivors speak of a "Dr. Greene." Some researchers have identified Dr. Greene as the infamous Dr. Mengele.

But mind control programs and assassinations are merely part of a much larger "enterprise" being carried out by an international network of power interests. In 1995, a researcher-lawyer anonymously posted his ten-year investigation of this conspiracy on the Internet. Calling the JFK assassination part of a 50-year conspiracy, he detailed the structure of this international network, which he named "the group." The inner workings and "New World Order" agenda of this group fit snugly with what other researchers have called the Illuminati.

http://www.parascope.com/articles/1196/ken3.htm


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: Silversoul]
    #4560725 - 08/20/05 10:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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J. Edgar Hoover, from the Elks Magazine, August 1956: 'We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them... No one who truly understands what it really is can be taken in by it.. Yet the individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst.'






Just as I suspected. Exclusive took that completely out of context to mean something totally different.




First i just copied/pasted the article, and second, how is the quote taken out of context? i don't think there are any differences between the conspiracy mentioned in this quote and the one in the article...


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: exclusive58]
    #4560738 - 08/20/05 10:52 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

J. Edgar Hoover was clearly talking about communism, not the illuminati.


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: Silversoul]
    #4560792 - 08/20/05 11:06 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically
is Mass Psychology... Its importance has been enormously increased
by the growth of modern methods of propaganda. Although this
science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to
the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know
how its convictions are generated."
--Bertrand Russel


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: Silversoul]
    #4560916 - 08/20/05 11:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Why the hell does the date "1776" show up on dollar bills? This date is the birth of the Illuminati.



:rofl2: You don't know a damn thing about American history, do you?  Google the phrase "Declaration of Independence," and look up what year it was signed.




Illuminati was founded on may 1st 1776, but i understand that you would rather think they put 1776 on the bill in reference to the declaration.

The dollar bill has lots of references to the number 13 as well. Because of the thirteen colonies you say? I might tell you that 13 is a significant occult number, as well as 11, but you wouldn't care much.

Symbols are open to many significations.
13 stripes on the flag, 13 steps on the Pyramid, 13 letters in the Latin above, 13 letters in "E Pluribus Unum", 13 stars above the Eagle, 13 plumes of feathers on each span of the Eagle's wing, 13 bars on that shield, 13 leaves on the olive branch, 13 fruits, and if you look closely, 13 arrows.

that's alot of thirteens for a simple symbolization of the thirteen colonies.

and that link you gave me says nothing about the signification of "A New Order has begun" or of the hidden owl.



There is a small owl just to the left of the "1" which appears on the upper right hand corner of the Dollar Bill.  From time to time politicians like Bill Clinton and George W. Bush Jr. have been caught with a camera flashing the horned owl symbol with their hands.

It probably symbolizes the all seeing, all knowing eye that never sleeps. Owl is most active at night. It can see what most people can't. I would say that's a perfect symbol for the group of people controlling things in the darkness.

Here's another take on it: Owl is considered the vehicle of Laxmi, the goddess of wealth. Propitiating the Owl deity (in the Bohemian Grove rituals) is nothing but a way to keep control of the world's finances.

The Bohemian Grove Rituals...google it man. There's a huge statue of an Owl in the Redwoods of Northern California Where ceremonies are said to be held by the most influential people. I have a friend who's been to the place and seen the statue.


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Re: The Illuminati and the New World Order [Re: exclusive58]
    #4560999 - 08/20/05 11:59 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Illuminati was founded on may 1st 1776, but i understand that you would rather think they put 1776 on the bill in reference to the declaration.



Uh...maybe because it was the founding document of this country, and the most important document in its history, with the possible exception of the Constitution? Just a guess.

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The dollar bill has lots of references to the number 13 as well. Because of the thirteen colonies you say? I might tell you that 13 is a significant occult number, as well as 11, but you wouldn't care much.



I wouldn't care because the thirteen colonies is clearly the more obvious reason. Occam's Razor: learn it, love it, use it.

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and that link you gave me says nothing about the signification of "A New Order has begun" or of the hidden owl.



Actually, "Novus Ordum Seclorum" means "New Order of the Ages," and it is covered in the link, right here.

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There is a small owl just to the left of the "1" which appears on the upper right hand corner of the Dollar Bill.



I am looking at what you are referring to, and while it does resemble some kind of bird, it is so obscure that it could be anything.

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From time to time politicians like Bill Clinton and George W. Bush Jr. have been caught with a camera flashing the horned owl symbol with their hands.



I'd have to see an example of this. I have no idea what this hand signal would look like.

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It probably symbolizes the all seeing, all knowing eye that never sleeps. Owl is most active at night. It can see what most people can't. I would say that's a perfect symbol for the group of people controlling things in the darkness.



Or it could symbolize wisdom, assuming it actually is an owl.

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Here's another take on it: Owl is considered the vehicle of Laxmi, the goddess of wealth. Propitiating the Owl deity (in the Bohemian Grove rituals) is nothing but a way to keep control of the world's finances.

The Bohemian Grove Rituals...google it man. There's a huge statue of an Owl in the Redwoods of Northern California Where ceremonies are said to be held by the most influential people. I have a friend who's been to the place and seen the statue.



I'm well aware of the Bohemian Grove Rituals. I saw the film footage captured by Alex Jones. While it certainly is entertaining to see movers and shakers of politics and industry dress up in wierd clothes and do bizaare rituals, I see no significance to this as far as a New World Order is concerned, nor any reason to believe that the Bohemian reverence for Molech has anything to do with the bird-like depicition on the dollar bill.


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