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Offlinedaimyo
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Finding $200,000USD
    #4554908 - 08/19/05 11:56 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Suppose somebody was walking, and happened upon a cache of money totalling $200,000USD. What would be the best way to go about cleaning it, preferably legally? Could one go to the police and tell them it was found and leave it there for a certain amount of time, then if nobody claims it, it becomes yours?

Just wondering.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: daimyo]
    #4554937 - 08/19/05 12:05 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

You could slowly claim it over a period of time buying chips at a casino and cashing out, or just keep it and make all of your purchases with cash for the next few years :shrug:


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: Boom]
    #4554942 - 08/19/05 12:07 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Start paying rent with money orders, pay cash for everything ect...


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: daimyo]
    #4555033 - 08/19/05 12:28 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I think paying rent and major recurring charges
with cash is a bad idea.

you're breaking your pattern and most folks will
note the payment method...so if anything happens
you've got a string of cash payments to explain.

gambling couldn't really work either unless you're
willing to sit and play for a while (and lose a little)

I don't know what you could do short of taking it
out of the country and opening an account elsewhere.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: daimyo]
    #4555130 - 08/19/05 01:15 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Water cleans pretty well and it's legal(for now.......)


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: daimyo]
    #4555147 - 08/19/05 01:22 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Finders keepers. Why do you need anyone else to tell you what to do with it?


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: daimyo]
    #4555211 - 08/19/05 01:38 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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daimyo said:
Suppose somebody was walking, and happened upon a cache of money totalling $200,000USD.  What would be the best way to go about cleaning it, preferably legally?

Just wondering.




Translated into English:  I dealt a bunch of drugs and I now need to figure out a way to launder my profits.  :lol:


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: moog]
    #4555242 - 08/19/05 01:52 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

If the owners of the money found out, they could sue your ass off.


Any theft charges would be weak.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4555248 - 08/19/05 01:54 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

LOL. If only I were so brazen.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: daimyo]
    #4555326 - 08/19/05 02:15 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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daimyo said:
Suppose somebody was walking, and happened upon a cache of money totalling $200,000USD. What would be the best way to go about cleaning it, preferably legally? Could one go to the police and tell them it was found and leave it there for a certain amount of time, then if nobody claims it, it becomes yours?

Just wondering.





easily...Invest it in the stock market.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: Rono]
    #4555411 - 08/19/05 02:44 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Buy things from companies listed on the stockmarket that conduct business internationaly, and only buy when you're in a different country.  You'll have more buying power because there's no paper trail requiring the corp. to pay taxes and now you have assets.  preferably a country with low taxes

For example...

Buy 10 black tahoes from GM in South America for $20g a piece (they'll do it because they don't have to pay taxes and it's cash...) 

Then return to this country and sell the assets.  You'll have to pay some tarrifs but you should be fine after that...  Now you own 20 vehicles legally.  Sell the vehicles  :thumbup:


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: daimyo]
    #4555433 - 08/19/05 02:52 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Stay away from large transactions in commodities and the stock market as they are highly scrutinized. Purchases should be made in small amounts. GO SLOW. I would think about diversification of investments. Buy some precious metals. Buy some foreign currencies. Join a multi-level marketing company and use this to show extra income. NEVER draw attention to yourself during tax time, don't take outrages deductions and fully report income from legitimate sources.

Here's something to consider: Buy classic cars (or near classic) in good condition for restoration. Strike an agreement with the sellers to create bills of sale that are lower than the actual price and give the sellers cash. Prices should not be unrealistic based upon your current financial situation (don't 'pay' $20k if your official income is $15k). The sellers will be off the hook for taxes from the higher price - but keep the official price at the low bluebook for bad condition wholesale or higher. You want to make it look plausible that the car needs a lot of work. Any work done on the cars should be financed by paying freelancers under the table. When you sell the cars, the portion of profit realized from paying others under the table can be seen as 'sweat equity.' Get receipts for all parts.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4555481 - 08/19/05 03:11 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

or you could start a non-profit organization that runs very innefficiently and take donations from annonymous private investors  :wink: :wink: :wink:

some non-profit orgs. only about 20% of the income makes it to the claimed cause.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: Cowgold]
    #4555485 - 08/19/05 03:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

plus you could send yourself on missions and the like and really help people if ya wanted... but yeah your $200g's would get ya started all while livin a dream on the goodwill of others


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: daimyo]
    #4555554 - 08/19/05 03:38 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

The only reason to launder it would be to have it in a bank somewhere as income. If you take it home, lock that shit up, you should be OK. Use it for all of your cash expenses. Buying gas (shouldn't take long with gas getting more expensive), get some new clothes, stuffl ike that. Don't go pall-mall spending the loot and you should be ok. IF you feel the need, I think that Banke Suisse still lets you western union them money, start anumbered account, and you get a debit card with a number on it rather than a name. Purty neat stuff.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: daimyo]
    #4555567 - 08/19/05 03:43 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.howtoadvice.com/SwissBanks/

Zurich is a nice town, might as well try it. 15K minimum investment.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4555596 - 08/19/05 03:55 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

"The only reason to launder it would be to have it in a bank somewhere as income."
Indeed. The goal here would be bonds, notes, bills, foreign currency(maybe), futures contracts, and/or precious metals/stones.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: Rono]
    #4555622 - 08/19/05 04:05 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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daimyo said:
Suppose somebody was walking, and happened upon a cache of money totalling $200,000USD. What would be the best way to go about cleaning it, preferably legally? Could one go to the police and tell them it was found and leave it there for a certain amount of time, then if nobody claims it, it becomes yours?

Just wondering.





easily...Invest it in the stock market.




Worst advice ever.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: Redstorm]
    #4555653 - 08/19/05 04:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

You could buy a shell property in any midwestern city from anywhere from 5 to 20k. Some historic old properties cost more to rehab than they would be worth, that is why the building sell for so little.

I bought a 4 story shell for 8k in my city. Then you can always use cash at the Home Depot when buying your supplies to rehab it. Contractors will ALWAYS take cash, in fact they will give you a better price if you give them cash. You can put on a roof, get new windows, paint the place, HVAC, it can all be done with cash. Those people will be glad to be paid in cash.

In the end you will have a viable property, legal and fair and square. They won't know what you had to pay, and they have no right to know if you didn't apply for funds or grants. I could spend that money easily. All I need to do now is somehow find $200,000.


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Re: Finding $200,000USD [Re: Redstorm]
    #4555681 - 08/19/05 04:27 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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daimyo said:
Suppose somebody was walking, and happened upon a cache of money totalling $200,000USD. What would be the best way to go about cleaning it, preferably legally? Could one go to the police and tell them it was found and leave it there for a certain amount of time, then if nobody claims it, it becomes yours?

Just wondering.





easily...Invest it in the stock market.




Worst advice ever.




How do you think organized crime launders their money for the most part? Remember the objective is not to make money on the deal, but to make the money non-traceable. Most are willing to lose a bit of their 'investment' in order to obtain 'clean' money.


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