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OfflineMuppet69_420
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*Sigh* Help :(
    #4552715 - 08/18/05 08:09 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I cant find any Acetone that doesnt leave residue all I found was one brand called klean strip, which faintly leaves any residue but still does. I found 100% pure acetone nail polish remover dunno if that would work? I also got 99% Isopropyl Alcohol (Denatured Alcohol? Erowid's Denatured Alcohol ) I heard this could cover for the Acetone in the extraction process is this true?


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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4552782 - 08/18/05 08:25 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

alcohol works but can hold less dissoluble alkaloids than per say naphtha


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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: liveby]
    #4552821 - 08/18/05 08:35 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I need more answers but I thought naptha was only used for cleaning? Also I looked up that denatured alcohol was the 2nd best, the one standing on the right side of Acetone lol. I just wanna know if Pharmacy bought 99% Isopropyl Alcohol is Denatured and useable. I also wanna know if 100% pure acetone nail remover any good?


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On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4553965 - 08/19/05 01:22 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

id say no and no. Go to a hardware store, ask for denatured alcohol, purchase.


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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: coda]
    #4554515 - 08/19/05 06:10 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

savako you got that right.
working with alcohol will work but you normally would add some heat (carefully) to evaporate it as it is less volatile than acetone.

the process is a bit messy, but not complicated


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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: coda]
    #4554604 - 08/19/05 08:13 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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coda said:
id say no and no. Go to a hardware store, ask for denatured alcohol, purchase.




Erowids Extraction #2 (2nd method and 2nd best)

Either Isopropanol or reagent grade acetone:

Put leaves in glass beaker with reagent grade acetone for 3 days.
* Note the solvent turns green and leaf becomes paler.
Strain leaves out of acetone, pouring acetone into glass double boiler / beaker in hot waterbath.
Reserve spent leaves.
Boil acetone to evaporate as much solvent as possible.
Add small amount of spent salvia leaves to oily residue and stir leaves to remove residue from glass.
Remove leaf
Add more acetone to beaker/double boiler to redisolve oily residue clinging to glass.
Repeat evaporation procedure.
Add spent leaves to another volume of acetone and repeat steps 1-8 above.
Using 1 ounce dried salvia leaf and ~100 ml acetone, the yield was 2gm final dry 'super salvia'... This product should be used carefully, perhaps with a sitter because it is strongly entheogenic.

I've concluded... no tusing Denatured Alcohol and go ahead and use my 99% Isopropyl ALcohol. Anyone else agree?


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forget w/e was here b4 it was meth gibberish.... :meff: :rail2: :rail: ....thats as old as my account...

On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4554619 - 08/19/05 08:35 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like you have a game plan. Points to bring up-

-I would definitely use a double boiler type set up to evaporate the solvent. It would be advantageous to use a vessel that is both nonreactive and scrapable.

-To echo RedGreen, I would use care in the application of heat:
-Bring the temp up slowly, you don't want things to boil over.
-No open flames! Don't do this on a gas range or propane stove.
Don't smoke around your project either!

Good luck, keep us posted And btw- http://store.hvchemical.com/browse.cfm/4,293.htm
This company offers reagent grade acetone which doesn't appear to be restricted to business clients.


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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: PsychoChipmunk]
    #4554702 - 08/19/05 09:54 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I have only done it with acetone, and with that I never needed to add any heat, just left it exposed in a shallow pan and it dried in 12 hrs. in a well ventilated garage.


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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: PsychoChipmunk]
    #4554704 - 08/19/05 09:55 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

This is what I did to comparison towards that method.

I used only a few leaves, which is why I used this easy method.

I should have had 7 grams in all if not a little less or more.

I used Iso. Alcohol for 20-25minutes of stirring while adding every 5 minutes a little more iso alcohol.

I then poured it into a small bowl of 1-2 grams of salvia crushed leaves.

I added a little more iso alcohol to that for better effciency and stirred and then laid it out by the fan for 15 minutes while stirring the whole frikkin time.

I preheated oven to 250 and added the bowl to it after turning oven off. Im now leaving it in there for 15 minutes so it can evaporate faster and evaporate the small amounts of water in it.

If it is not all evaporated in 15 minutes I will place by fan for 5 and stir and then re do oven technique but instead of 15 min just 4-5 minutes.


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forget w/e was here b4 it was meth gibberish.... :meff: :rail2: :rail: ....thats as old as my account...

On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

Hail Shroomery!




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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4554721 - 08/19/05 10:11 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Also whats the difference between Acetone and Grade Reagant Acetone? If there isnt any then Grade Reagnant Acetone is better then iso alcohol correct?


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forget w/e was here b4 it was meth gibberish.... :meff: :rail2: :rail: ....thats as old as my account...

On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

Hail Shroomery!




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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4554788 - 08/19/05 10:57 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

*Update*

Ok after leaving the bowlin the oven for 25 minutes without knowing untill later lol, it is evaporating quit well now with alot of greenish goo residue :smile: I think this is good. I also have had it by the fan directly after removing the bowl from the oven. I now have the evaporation down enough to say its beneath most of the leaves. Evaporation is close at hand after that I will havta let it dry and ultimately evaporate, which is really hard cuz I wanna sample my extraction asap!!  :smile: I'll keep this updated.


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I live to learn and learn to live.

forget w/e was here b4 it was meth gibberish.... :meff: :rail2: :rail: ....thats as old as my account...

On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

Hail Shroomery!




Edited by Savako (08/19/05 11:00 AM)


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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4554834 - 08/19/05 11:29 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2949346/an/0/page/0
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2949346/page/0/fpart/2/vc/1

if u need more info.. pm me ur email and i'll forward u the larges compilation of extraction knowledge that i;ve ever seen


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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: 3six5]
    #4555348 - 08/19/05 02:24 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I was wondering how long does it take for the damp leavesto dry so I can take them out of the bowl? The liquid in the bowl is gone though and some leaves are alittle dry and beneath them in the bowl is some powder and dryer leaves ( at bottom of bowl). When exactly can I remove the leaves? I dont smell the solvent but I dunno if I should still remove them bause theyre damp wet. They have been in air circulation (cooler in my house) for almost 2-3 hours. I could scan them if you want lol :smile:.


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On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

Hail Shroomery!




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Re: *Sigh* Help :( [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4555416 - 08/19/05 02:45 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Alright Im just real worried about doing anything to this extracted leaves and powder. It never said anything about damp leaves in the guides i've read. It just says once every hint of solvent is gone take leaves out and clean bowl off with razor to get the powder. Im going to try and dry it all before messing with it. I just wanna know if and when will the dampness dry out in a matter of time? I places it outside on purch away from UV lights, turned fan on high (very powerfull fan), which is nearly 7-10 feet away. I placed bottle on a shelf and its getting little bits of gusty winds comming from fan. I did this because here in central cali. we hardly get any winds. Its going to reach about 98 degrees today will everything be ok with this drying method?


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I live to learn and learn to live.

forget w/e was here b4 it was meth gibberish.... :meff: :rail2: :rail: ....thats as old as my account...

On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

Hail Shroomery!




Edited by Savako (08/19/05 02:46 PM)


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