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Snakemanj7
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Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms
#4543661 - 08/17/05 04:37 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Today while walking home from fishing I noticed some LBM's growing in the front lawn of a house. They were all growing on or near some blue mulch stuff near a powere generator. Upon closer inspection, I realised that a few of them looked a lot like pan subbs, so I picked them along with the "mystery 'shrooms" and brought them home in a paper bag to take pictures. As you can see from the pictures, most of the mushrooms have caps that are less than 1 inch across. I am currently making spore prints and I will post there colour in 6-8 hours. Here are the photos:
Pan subbs (I think):

This photo shows three pan subbs (?) but it is important because in the background you can see the gills of some mystery mushrooms. All of the mushrooms that I found have gills like these. I think they are called non-atached but I am not sure.

Close-up of a mushroom that might be a pan subb:

Mystery 'shrooms:

A pile of mystery mushrooms:

A different mystery mushroom:

Thanks
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cwbfromtheksvi
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: Snakemanj7]
#4543963 - 08/17/05 05:50 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks like a mix of subbs and foes to me, the first ones being the subbs. Need alittle more than that for a mid-level trip, though.
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Snakemanj7
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: cwbfromtheksvi]
#4544329 - 08/17/05 07:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cool. Is there a chance that more subbs might fruit at the spot where I found them? We've been getting a lot of rain lately and there's more rain in the forecast so hopefully I can find more. How many do I need for a decent trip? THanks
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jobot37
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: Snakemanj7]
#4544525 - 08/17/05 08:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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those little mystery shrooms look like Panaeolina foenisecii to me, or just your common lawn mower mushroom
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ChickenNugget
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: jobot37]
#4545828 - 08/17/05 04:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The "mystery shrooms" are def foes. Not active.
The way i can tell is with the mystery shrooms, the vertical grooves on the stem are straight. And not twisting like a subbs grooves.
Take a sporeprint of the possible pan subb.
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avionando
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: Snakemanj7]
#4546617 - 08/17/05 09:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I thought they all looked like subbs. Just the lighter colored ones looked dryer.
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Snakemanj7
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: avionando]
#4547353 - 08/18/05 01:10 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys, the ones that I thought were pan subbs have jet black sporeprints, so I guess they really are pan subbs (hooray ). The 'mystery mushrooms' have brown to dark brown spore prints. I think I'll kepp checking this spot throughout the fall to collect enough subbs to trip on. Thanks a lot.
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Lysergic_Milkman
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: Snakemanj7]
#4548282 - 08/18/05 04:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you guys trying to kill snakeman or something?
It's very unlikely that you found Panaeolus subbalteatus. You'd be best off not eating any of your specimens. I'd elaborate but i want to see if anyone else with a some field experience will take the time to save a life (nothing you picked looks deadly, snakeman, but that might not always be the case).
Please don't make confirmative IDs unless you are absolutely sure of your self. I know that you may not have meant to confirm your IDs, but "it looks like..." is good enough for some people. Jes' keep that in mind.
Happy Shrooming!
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avionando
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Good point milkman. I was going with the thought in mind that he was sporeprinting. But, your right.
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Snakemanj7
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: avionando]
#4549660 - 08/18/05 08:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks, I won't eat them. But how can I ever be sure if they are Panaeolus or not? Should I take some to a local college/university and see if I can have them proffesionally identified? I thought that if they have jet black spore prints they are subbalteatus? Thanks for all your help and sorry for my newbish questions.
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Snakemanj7
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: Snakemanj7]
#4549710 - 08/18/05 08:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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P.S. Why is it unlikely that they are really subbs? Thanks
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Mitchnast
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: Snakemanj7]
#4549718 - 08/18/05 08:58 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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some sort of active pan at least.
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avionando
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: Snakemanj7]
#4550698 - 08/18/05 03:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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You do have subbs. The ones you are calling mystery mushrooms, I think are probably subbs too, but since we don't know for sure don't eat those ones. When in doubt throw it out. Better safe than sorry.
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Goatherder
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: Snakemanj7]
#12596435 - 05/20/10 03:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is the message board working yet?
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Re: Pan subbs Plus Mystery Mushrooms [Re: Goatherder]
#12596456 - 05/20/10 03:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Apparently so!
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