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Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation
    #4543232 - 08/16/05 07:27 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Extrinsic and intrinsic motivation

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Most people understand the concept of intrinsic satisfaction or intrinsic motivation, i.e. when an activity is satisfying or pleasurable in and of itself.

Many, maybe most, activities are not intrinsically satisfying enough to get most of us to do them consistently, so extrinsic motivation needs to be applied in the form of rewards (positive reinforcements), incentives, or as a way to avoid some unpleasant condition ("negative reinforcement" or punishment).

(Italics mine) It is usually easier to set up or arrange extrinsically motivating conditions than to increase one's intrinsic interest and satisfaction in some behavior.




It occurred to me today that one of the biggest reasons we look to authority figures for approval of our ideas may be that we find little or no intrinsic satisfaction in them. 

After all, if my belief system works for me (and it does) why would I need outsiders to approve of it?  Maybe it would improve their lives, and the lives of millions, to accept my belief system. 

If they reject my ideas, ridicule them, or just ignore them (more often the case with me  :grin:), are they taking anything away from me?  Only if I am seeking an extrinsic reward from them!

Perhaps I, or someone else who posts here, have found THE ANSWER.  Wow!  Yay us! But, at this point, we have only subjective evidence for our answer. Bummer. No proof.

Tinkerers (like me) will be willing to APPLY the ideas they find interesting, and get their own subjective evidence.  If the ideas work, they benefit! Those who do not apply your ideas will not benefit. 

Either way, the intrinsic rewards are yours.


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Re: Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation [Re: Veritas] * 1
    #4543427 - 08/16/05 08:27 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I agree! :thumbup: Everyone can now ignore this post. :wink: Sorry darling. :heart:


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Re: Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation [Re: Icelander]
    #4543433 - 08/16/05 08:28 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

S'Okay, I'm intrinsically motivated, remember?  :grin:


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Re: Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation [Re: Veritas]
    #4543531 - 08/16/05 09:01 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

wise words. :thumbup: hehe, some extrinsic reward for you  :mushroom2:


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Re: Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation [Re: psychomime] * 1
    #4544306 - 08/17/05 12:13 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Its so true, why do we need to tell people about our beliefs if they are solid? But we need each other as well. I don't want to do it alone. And I don't want to have to move through the world pretending I'm a solid completely self confident character when I have doubts and the need to be lifted by others.

Often when I approach an authority with an idea it is rejected and it hurts. Then the idea washes away and I am left with a cleaner slate. Obviously, we must know what we are doing when we take this approach and it is a part of a cleansing process, clearing ourselves of toxic thoughts that no longer serve.

Personally, I like to share the journey I am going through because it helps remind me I'm not moving as an alien through the world, disconnected from the majority. There's always a point though where the validation of the ideas no longer serves and we must leave the nest. The conversations of uplifting motivation begin to transform into doubtful hopes.


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Re: Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation [Re: iambobby]
    #4544369 - 08/17/05 12:27 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Nice and refreshing post bobby!

I just wanted to say that you can question "authorities and bounce ideas off of them , yet can still keep yourself as the ultimate authority when making decisions for yourself and life.

Up until the mid 80s, doctors used their authority to tell parents of new borns requiring surgery that they didn't feel pain and did stuff like open heart surgery with NO anesthesia. They just gave them muscles paralyzers so they wouldn't move or scream during the surgery.

If something doesn't "feel" right to you, even though an "authority" says so, refer to your heart place for the final word.

Research and studies showed they do feel pain. Policies were forced to change procedures. Think of how many parents who must've felt it was not right, trusted the authorities and let them do it to their babies. My heart place would've called bullshit on it and I would've thrown a kanipshin fit.

The surgeries went well, yet the majority of the babies died anyway. They think now it was due to post traumatic stress.

Anyway, I think you get what I am saying.

And I like sharing the journey too. You'd be surprised to know how many of us feel alien to this planet most of the time.


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