Home | Community | Message Board


Myco Supply
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> The Psychedelic Experience

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineRuStySC
Stranger
Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 30
Last seen: 10 years, 5 months
Maurijuana Deaths?
    #4542749 - 08/16/05 04:33 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Can someone please explain to me how Marijuana causes more E.R. visits than Herion, Ecstasy, PCP, etc...? how is this possible?



Souce: theDEA.org


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleMOTH
Wild Woman
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/06/03
Posts: 23,363
Loc: In the jungle
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: RuStySC]
    #4542754 - 08/16/05 04:34 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Only two ways I can see this possible:

1. People commonly use marijuana while partaking in other drugs

2. Some people get a little too high and freak out


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineelaspeinreason
psychonaut
Male

Registered: 07/31/05
Posts: 1,029
Loc: fairfax virginia
Last seen: 3 years, 11 months
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: MOTH]
    #4542763 - 08/16/05 04:37 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

or thats bullshit ..and they classify times when they dont know what drug the person is on to be marjjuana


--------------------
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one

Diploid said:
What's with proclaiming freedom by abridging freedom? That makes no sense.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleDark_Star
dick butterfly
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 08/21/04
Posts: 27,983
Loc: Under the Grecian fog
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: RuStySC]
    #4542766 - 08/16/05 04:38 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

The DEA lies.......


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineAsanteA
light your candle on my love
Male User Gallery

Registered: 02/06/02
Posts: 51,493
Loc: Right Here - Right Now
Last seen: 13 hours, 44 minutes
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: RuStySC]
    #4542772 - 08/16/05 04:41 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

dangerous cardiovascular effects and detrimental effects on pre-existing cardiac and respiratory diseases, allergic reaction, freakout, hypoglycemic fainting etc.

Can Smoking Weed Kill Me? (ODD Forum)


--------------------
CLICK ONE -->  :redpill:  :bluepill:  <-- GO PLACES
SEARCH ENGINE  SUPPORT TICKETS  STORE  SPONSORS/VENDORS  AMANI
PSYCHOSIS, SYNCHRONICITIES, SHAMANISM & THE SUPERNATURAL WA&F

From the Outcasts to the Incrowd, from the Clueless to the Helpful, it takes the whole Shroomery to help a n00b


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblezSDMF
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 09/07/04
Posts: 10,559
Loc: lost in nothing
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: RuStySC]
    #4542804 - 08/16/05 04:52 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

when i went in the hospital awhile back, a cop caught a 15 year old smoking, and he flipped out because they thought he was gonna charge him (and they never did, fyi).. so he said his tongue was swelling and demanded to go to the ER.

i'd imagine shit like that, along with a little bit of lies via whoever that source is, plus people flipping out


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineJabbawaya

Registered: 07/11/05
Posts: 1,479
Last seen: 3 years, 12 days
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: Asante]
    #4542806 - 08/16/05 04:53 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

That information is absolutely ridiculous.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinedelta9
Active Ingredient
Male Arcade Champion: Plumber

Registered: 10/29/04
Posts: 5,390
Loc: California
Last seen: 6 years, 1 month
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: RuStySC]
    #4542871 - 08/16/05 05:17 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Can someone please explain to me how Marijuana causes more E.R. visits than Herion, Ecstasy, PCP, etc...? how is this possible?



It doesn't cause them... That's just what they want you to think.

This is data gathered from "emergency room mentions" during "emergency room visits". I am party to this, in fact.

See, what happens is, you get taken to the emergency room or on an ambulance and someone will ask you, "Have you used any drugs in the last 24 hours" and you will be thinking of your life and say, "Fer shizzle, I smoked a fatty this morning... eight hours ago!".

What you've done now is added an "emergency room mention" for use of marijuana. This is how they gather these numbers.


--------------------
delta9


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineleery11
I Tell You What!

Registered: 06/25/05
Posts: 5,998
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: delta9]
    #4542889 - 08/16/05 05:27 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

do they gather statistics like those to compile propoganda with if you simply mention that you use it when you fill out normal check-up forms?

I never fill the drugs sections out on my forms... but just by sheer number of marijuana users alone that could also present problems when given to people who are in the business of lying with statistics.


--------------------
I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineThrasher420x
ΛηgΞl_?Γ_?eλŦħ
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/23/05
Posts: 353
Last seen: 10 years, 2 months
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: RuStySC]
    #4542894 - 08/16/05 05:30 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

this is some strait up bullshit.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinelemon_lw
Stranger
 Arcade Champion: Rotation

Registered: 10/18/04
Posts: 3,622
Loc: That Way
Last seen: 9 years, 2 months
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: RuStySC]
    #4542901 - 08/16/05 05:33 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i want to see alcohol listed on that chart and then we can talk. i bet it is easily 5 times higer than all the others


--------------------
In the belly of the Leviathan, one can either despair and perish, or be cheerful and persevere.-Dean Koontz


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineThrasher420x
ΛηgΞl_?Γ_?eλŦħ
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/23/05
Posts: 353
Last seen: 10 years, 2 months
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #4542905 - 08/16/05 05:35 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i agree.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineleery11
I Tell You What!

Registered: 06/25/05
Posts: 5,998
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: Thrasher420x]
    #4542909 - 08/16/05 05:36 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

way more than 5 times if you factor in people that were injured as a result of alcohol related stupidity.

i did a google for:
alcohol related er visits, 2001
and the first two sites are about ecstacy and one of them is the DEA.

bullshit!
Quote:

Between 1990 and 1995, 1,451 deaths investigated by the Wayne County medical examiner were attributed directly to alcohol, and 1,046 deaths were attributed to other drugs



alcohol killed more people than all other drugs combined.
http://www.drugstrategies.org/detroit/detroit07.html




--------------------
I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (08/16/05 05:39 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinefredyjenkins
Stranger
Registered: 10/30/04
Posts: 127
Last seen: 29 days, 4 hours
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: RuStySC]
    #4542917 - 08/16/05 05:39 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Marijuana is probably the most abused drugs these days, so alot more health problems occur due to it? Lung cancer!?

But well, they say emergy thing.... umm Sounds like a bunch of misinformation to me  :laugh:


--------------------
-English is not my native language. So im not retarded, i'm just not very engligh articulate. Please forgive me for my bad writing! :wink: Thank you! :laugh:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineAsanteA
light your candle on my love
Male User Gallery

Registered: 02/06/02
Posts: 51,493
Loc: Right Here - Right Now
Last seen: 13 hours, 44 minutes
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: Jabbawaya]
    #4542931 - 08/16/05 05:47 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

That information is absolutely ridiculous.




Let me guess.. You use marijuana and smoke it?

If I should smoke a blunt (or lessay pure weed in a pipe) I would be hit by an acute Angina Pectoris (cardiac suffocation) attack that would come about between 5-15 minutes after lighting up and would stay with me fifteen minutes to an hour.

If I should smoke a large amount of cannabis I might be up for another heart attack.

The only thing that deserves ridicule, Jabbawaya, is the blatant ignorance of the cannabis lobby. And yes, it kills people. Read the link in the post you found so ridiculous.



.. Oh and posters above: dont confuse "the DEA" with TheDEA.org, the former is shite, the latter an excellent harm reduction website.


--------------------
CLICK ONE -->  :redpill:  :bluepill:  <-- GO PLACES
SEARCH ENGINE  SUPPORT TICKETS  STORE  SPONSORS/VENDORS  AMANI
PSYCHOSIS, SYNCHRONICITIES, SHAMANISM & THE SUPERNATURAL WA&F

From the Outcasts to the Incrowd, from the Clueless to the Helpful, it takes the whole Shroomery to help a n00b


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineShroomArtist84
Stranger
Registered: 08/09/05
Posts: 2,414
Last seen: 10 years, 10 months
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: Asante]
    #4542975 - 08/16/05 06:09 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

this cant be right....at all.


--------------------
No matter what I say and no matter what I write here.

I'm sick of always looking at this page with a blank stare.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinedante
...

Registered: 01/11/04
Posts: 379
Loc: New Jersey
Last seen: 8 years, 10 months
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4542986 - 08/16/05 06:14 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

1. People commonly use marijuana while partaking in other drugs

2. Some people get a little too high and freak out




thats exactly it. marijuana is used so much that when there are problems caused by other drugs the person is very likely to have also smoked marijuana.
also people freak out


--------------------
The clouds above us join & separate,
The breeze in the courtyard leaves & returns.
Like is like that, so why not relax?
Who can stop us from celebrating?

-Lu Yu


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinedelta9
Active Ingredient
Male Arcade Champion: Plumber

Registered: 10/29/04
Posts: 5,390
Loc: California
Last seen: 6 years, 1 month
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: dante]
    #4543186 - 08/16/05 07:17 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

lemon_lw said:
i want to see alcohol listed on that chart and then we can talk. i bet it is easily 5 times higer than all the others



As previously mentioned, alcohol appears in far more mentions than any other drug... It's also legal, so people may feel better about mentioning; however, I wouldn't doubt that it is much more a contributing factor in the cause of ER visits than when other drugs come up mentions... This is NOT to say that all or even most ER visits where other drugs are mentioned are PURELY mentions and not part of the cause... I just personally feel (through my research) that alcohol is an actual cause and mentioned more often than the others.

Quote:

fredyjenkins said:
Marijuana is probably the most abused drugs these days, so alot more health problems occur due to it? Lung cancer!?



Alcohol is probably one of the most abused drugs these days, and always has been, if I am not mistaken. Also, some cannabinoids have been shown to be neuroprotective and others might even fight cancer... Research has shown that cigarette smokers that do not smoke marijuana get cancer more... And *supposedly* it is very very rare to hear of a marijuana-only smoker getting smoking-related cancer.

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
Quote:

That information is absolutely ridiculous.




Let me guess.. You use marijuana and smoke it?



Yes, I do, and I do.

Quote:

If I should smoke a blunt (or lessay pure weed in a pipe) I would be hit by an acute Angina Pectoris (cardiac suffocation) attack that would come about between 5-15 minutes after lighting up and would stay with me fifteen minutes to an hour.

If I should smoke a large amount of cannabis I might be up for another heart attack.



Then you should not smoke a blunt (or let's say "pure" weed in a pipe) let alone a large amount of cannabis.

Quote:

The only thing that deserves ridicule, Jabbawaya, is the blatant ignorance of the cannabis lobby. And yes, it kills people. Read the link in the post you found so ridiculous.



"It" kills people? Come on now, WS! You know better than that.


--------------------
delta9


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineunearth
Stranger
Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 260
Last seen: 10 years, 6 months
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: delta9]
    #4544089 - 08/16/05 11:24 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

"The only thing that deserves ridicule, Jabbawaya, is the blatant ignorance of the cannabis lobby. And yes, it kills people. Read the link in the post you found so ridiculous."

pot never killed someone before if thats what your saying,or accoring to erowid


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleShroomOmatic
Ethno Apprentice
Male User Gallery
Registered: 10/15/04
Posts: 2,373
Loc: Sailing the Seas of Chees...
Re: Maurijuana Deaths? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #4544104 - 08/16/05 11:28 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Dark_Star said:
The DEA lies.......




--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> The Psychedelic Experience

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Deaths caused by marijuana
( 1 2 all )
mushappy 3,267 32 01/03/09 10:29 PM
by usefulidiot13
* Marijuana good with shrooms? d00d557 932 18 02/13/07 06:25 PM
by newlife
* Ego Death/Birth/Rebirth Queries. Zimed 1,436 17 05/23/06 09:58 PM
by Syle
* Almost Died From Marijuana???
( 1 2 3 4 all )
pokalot 11,731 62 05/04/11 01:01 AM
by stepup.stepout
* Habitual Marijuana Use
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 all )
LayYouIn 13,968 140 01/18/08 08:50 AM
by Boots
* Smoking LSD on marijuana...Nearly Impossible...
( 1 2 all )
colimon 33,466 26 11/09/06 08:11 PM
by Darkcloud
* Some Marijuana Related Questions
( 1 2 all )
krypto2000 2,152 20 09/23/08 09:53 PM
by Cognitive_Shift
* marijuana a gateway drug?
( 1 2 3 all )
frizzlefry22 3,389 41 07/16/08 04:11 PM
by nicebloomers

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie, Asante, Rose, sui, karode13, LSDreamer
1,851 topic views. 5 members, 156 guests and 21 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Marijuana Demystified
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2016 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.071 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 16 queries.