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My first salvia expiriance
    #4536261 - 08/15/05 01:35 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

All this happened a long while ago, so I'm afraid I'm a little fuzzy on it, I just thought I'd like to share this and add another report to this lovely forum :smile:.

I had received a free bag of salvia 6x extract from a vendor a long while before this experience, but I had put off trying it. One day I felt the need to do a little consciousness expansion, so I loaded my pipe with a small pinch of extract and made myself comfortable on my bean bag chair. A friend of mine was sitting for me, just to make sure everything was ok. I thought better safe than sorry. I used  a regular Bic lighter with my bowl.

I light the bowl and inhaled deep, taking it all in one hit. I held it in for as long as I could, as I exhaled, I started to feel this odd sensation, I felt a sort of "pulling", then things started to get weird. I felt as if my head split, then I felt it turn in on itself and I was gone.

My soul was being pulled, I felt myself get pulled further and further, away from everything I knew and loved. This weird vibe dominated, a "you're in my would now :evil:" vibe. It was like I died and was in a roulette for re-incarnation, never to return to my previous life. I became part of the scenery, my wall, I was trapped in it's matrix and was never going to get out.

After what seemed like an eternity, I was starting to return to "normal". It lasted 10 minuets or so, and when I came to, I was left with the most beautiful after glow. I felt content, and very much happy to be back in my body.

Salvia has the potential to be a great teacher, but she demands respect. I'm going to venture into her world again sometime.


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Re: My first salvia expiriance [Re: gdman]
    #4536470 - 08/15/05 02:31 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i had wanted to try Salvia and this just makes it more obvious to me that i need to.


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Re: My first salvia expiriance [Re: gdman]
    #4537049 - 08/15/05 09:19 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for sharing, I love reading Salvia trip reports. Sounds like you're showing it the respect it needs.

My wife and i have just started to use Salvia, she just had a wonderful breakthrough last night, I'll post the report tomorrow after she's written it.

One tip - we seem to have found that it's kind of good to go into the experience with a question - acting as a focus for the experience.


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Re: My first salvia expiriance [Re: gdman]
    #4537088 - 08/15/05 10:15 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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I light the bowl and inhaled deep, taking it all in one hit. I held it in for as long as I could, as I exhaled, I started to feel this odd sensation, I felt a sort of "pulling", then things started to get weird. I felt as if my head split, then I felt it turn in on itself and I was gone.

My soul was being pulled, I felt myself get pulled further and further, away from everything I knew and loved. This weird vibe dominated, a "you're in my would now :evil:" vibe. It was like I died and was in a roulette for re-incarnation, never to return to my previous life. I became part of the scenery, my wall, I was trapped in it's matrix and was never going to get out.

After what seemed like an eternity, I was starting to return to "normal". It lasted 10 minuets or so, and when I came to, I was left with the most beautiful after glow. I felt content, and very much happy to be back in my body.

Salvia has the potential to be a great teacher, but she demands respect. I'm going to venture into her world again sometime.




Minus like the particular details of our experiences, they're essentially the same exact thing. I had the pull, and that frightening sensation of "you're in my world now" that made me feel like I'd never get back to what I knew.

Definitely also made me thankful to be where I was when, when I was, who I was, as soon as I was back inside my body.


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Re: My first salvia expiriance [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4537394 - 08/15/05 12:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I find I have to remember to relax, I like to hold a pen and have paper around as if I were a reporter like casteneda, often a glass of water nearby has been terrific too, when crossing the boundary between this simple existence and that familiar-strange multimodality of salviaspace.


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Re: My first salvia expiriance [Re: gdman]
    #4538029 - 08/15/05 03:15 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I had a friend try Salvia for the first time yesterday...followed by five minutes of "swimming" across my dining room floor.  :smile:


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Re: My first salvia expiriance [Re: MOTH]
    #4538384 - 08/15/05 04:35 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Hell yea swimmin' is the shit. :laugh:


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Re: My first salvia expiriance [Re: Thrasher420x]
    #4542645 - 08/16/05 03:57 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I can't seem to do salvia without tremendous fear.

I had one breakthrough, and after that I smoked normal foliage, got minor "spiral like" but flakey visuals, felt mildly odd, and bam my head goes "I'm not ready.... I'm not ready for this." I got scared but fortunately I hadn't done enough to break through so I just got up and got back to normal.

So how do you know when you are ready for it? and what makes you ready for it? I guess I don't like doing it alone, because it's like I'M THE ONLY THING THAT EXISTS, PERIOD, and the potential to lose my reality forever scares me....


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Re: My first salvia expiriance [Re: leery11]
    #4542707 - 08/16/05 04:19 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

It scares me too...

So, does fear=respect here? And when you're "ready", will the fear NOT be present? I guess only each individual can answer that. I think that's what I like about Salvia. If I can get over the fear enough to light it there's not much else that I can do about the experience. It comes on so quick that, unlike mushrooms, there's not time to fuck with your own head about the trip. You're just there.


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Re: My first salvia expiriance [Re: VirgilKane]
    #4547872 - 08/17/05 08:02 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I think fear is sometimes the natural response to those kinds of states of minds kind of like fight/or flight. Especially if you go from baseline to peak in like 3 seconds. With sally and DMT its that way. I would say DMT scared the shit out of me more but and sally was just wierd but very itense as well. As for knowing when your ready only you would know that. If you have it in a bowl and are about to smoke it then you are ready I guess even if it ends up scaring you.


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Re: My first salvia expiriance [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4559589 - 08/20/05 04:53 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Salvia (or my own conciousness...most people hear/feel a distinctly female prescence...I only hear/feel what seems like a different version of myself) has explicitly told me I wasn't ready.

This was before I found this site and got serious about mushrooms. Now I've gotten past 'playful' trips and have developed my spirit and psyche more to the tune of nature and the bigger picture. So, I think I'm ready to go back.


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