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OfflineGbBaker
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Dry or Fresh?
    #4535383 - 08/14/05 10:34 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

okay so it says that when a mushroom is fresh it has more potentcy, but on the cosgae calculator it says taht you need more fresh shrooms to reach level 5 then dried shrooms
ex: for P.semilanceata you need 23 grams of fresh shrooms but to reach level 5 on teh same shrooms when dried you only need 4 grams, whats up with that im having trouble hear so can someone help me out?
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Re: Dry or Fresh? [Re: GbBaker]
    #4535437 - 08/14/05 10:47 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Dry or Fresh? [Re: VirgilKane]
    #4535493 - 08/14/05 10:58 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

After re-reading this it looks like fresh are more potent...possibly due to oxidation when drying? Of course you use less because they're dried, but if shrooms are 90% water then 23 grams wet would equal 2.3 grams dried. But you say the calculator tells you 4 grams which would equal 40 grams wet...so fresh are more potent.


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Re: Dry or Fresh? [Re: VirgilKane]
    #4540916 - 08/16/05 03:38 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

the unstable actives that you get when you eat fresh are destroyed during the drying process leaving only the stable active..this is the reason its "easier" to gauge dosage with dry, because you know a pretty "constant" amount of active/gram....(pardon my spelling) the psilocin breaks down and the baocystin breaks down but the psilocybin is stable enough to survive...

OK..back to your regularly scheduled bong hits...
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Re: Dry or Fresh? [Re: captmueller]
    #4541290 - 08/16/05 05:58 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks captmueller!

VERY useful info that I'd never picked up before.


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Re: Dry or Fresh? [Re: captmueller]
    #4541301 - 08/16/05 06:16 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

captmueller said:
the unstable actives that you get when you eat fresh are destroyed during the drying process leaving only the stable active..this is the reason its "easier" to gauge dosage with dry, because you know a pretty "constant" amount of active/gram....(pardon my spelling) the psilocin breaks down and the baocystin breaks down but the psilocybin is stable enough to survive...





This is just not true. Not all the Psilocin breaks down when drying. A significant(most) amount of Psilocin still exists in dried mushrooms.



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