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Florida Gymnopilus
    #4533691 - 08/14/05 02:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hello my friends

I found a Gymnopilus and I would like some help in identifying it to species. Found on what is probably a buried oak stump/root.

Pileus: 6-8 cm in diameter, goldenrod/orange to pale yellow in color, scales brownish/reddish radially arranged, concentrated in the center, making it darker brown. margins uneven. Flesh beige, pale, thin. Seems like some marginal bruising on the cap's edge.

Gills: Adnate to slightly decurrent, thick, wavy, golden orange, not bruising, edges darker

Spores: tawny/rusty brown

Stipe: central, striate, curved,4-6 cm, seems like some bruising on tiny fruits on bottom, in first picture.

Sorry I wrote this in a hurry.







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Re: Florida Gymnopilus [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #4535562 - 08/14/05 11:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

they might be Gymnopilus dryophila, or G. subdryophila..


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Re: Florida Gymnopilus [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #4537883 - 08/15/05 02:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Is G. dryophila a synonym of G. dryophilus (Collyba dryophilus)? It doesn't appear so.

The coloration of the cap and stipe in my specimen appears much darker than the description in Kimbrough's Florida mushroom book. And the stipe tapers downwards not upwards. The scales on the cap seem to be more prominent in my specimen as well, not "faintly fibrillar."

Does anyone have a description of G. subdryophila or another description/photo of G. dryophila?

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Re: Florida Gymnopilus [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #4539537 - 08/15/05 09:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

they also sorta/kinda resemble G. luteofolius,

but luteofolius grow in woodchips, not from tree-stumps..


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Re: Florida Gymnopilus [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #4539594 - 08/15/05 09:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Gymnopilus can grow from woodchips as well as decaying treestumps..


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Re: Florida Gymnopilus [Re: motaman]
    #4539641 - 08/15/05 09:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Gymnopilus can grow from woodchips as well as decaying treestumps..

alright, it's time to bust out the Gymnopilus monograph :smile:

page 74, says this about G luteofolius habit habitat and distribution:

"On wood (sawdust, logs, stumps of conifers, more rarely on oak and cottonwood), scattered over the United States, June-November."

after taking a second zoomed-in look at the stems of his pictures i am guessing luteofolius.
-but it says "rarely on oak"..


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Re: Florida Gymnopilus [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #4539679 - 08/15/05 09:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:smile:  rarely then.. not as rare as time goes by.. and even if not then it could be a rare find.. rare in publications are rarely current..  :smirk:


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Re: Florida Gymnopilus [Re: motaman]
    #4539717 - 08/15/05 09:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well they sure do *look* like luteofolius to me..


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Re: Florida Gymnopilus [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #4546877 - 08/17/05 03:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the replies!

I find three problems with this being G. luteofolius:

1. If I remember well, the vinaceous coloration was not really present on the mushroom, neither on the cap nor in the flesh.

2. I did not notice any traces of a partial veil.

3. The taste is not bitter, although I am tasting dried specimens.

What indicates this is probably not G. dryophila, which is the closest match I originally came up with, is the green coloration near the base of the stipe and the darkening further up. And G. luteofolius is supposedly mildly hallucinogenic.

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Re: Florida Gymnopilus [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #4548862 - 08/17/05 10:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

the 'green coloration' is a sure indicator that what you have is a psychoactive Gymnopilus mushroom, which specie is unknown

the green coloration does not really suggest G luteofolius, because G luteofolius tend to age and bruise a blue color, most notably is the blue on the stipe of the stems mycelium.

i could be wrong tho, im just going by memory and i havent picked decent luteofolius in over a year, maybe two years since i picked some good ones

the appearance of the pileus or caps of luteofolius is extremely variable, sometimes they're yellow, sometimes they're red, and sometimes the pinhead size specimens caps are a deep vibrant purplish color, sometimes

and the viels of luteofolius are not the traditional type of veil but "arachnoid to submembranous, yellowish, forming a fugacious annulus"
and i think i notice it in one of you photos.. :rasta:


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