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Tired of being ripped off in the FPT
    #4527794 - 08/12/05 09:15 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It happens to the best of us....
I am tired of getting ripped off by people who post in the free print thread.
Several times I have taken my chances and replied to newbies who posted in the FPT..most of those times (2of3) I got ripped off..just didn't receive the print. I am sure that I'm not the only one who had this kind of an experience.

I would like to propose making a FPT Rules sticky or something of that sort which will define WHO will can and can not post in the FPT.

This post would be updated with names of those who have been known in the past to rip off people and so on...I also strongly think that NO NEWBIES should be allowed to post in the FPT.

Just today some dude offered a GT print in the thread..but he only joined 4 days ago and has NO POSTS and 1 general rating by Vinsue...but we all know that Vinsue gives good ratings to all the newbies so something doesn't seem right about this scenario.

I guess feedback would appriciated..I'm tired of being ripped off and I want something done about it.

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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: Tien]
    #4527854 - 08/12/05 09:36 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

maybe make it so that only people with at least 1 trade rating can post in the FPT ?


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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: Tien]
    #4527905 - 08/12/05 09:56 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I guess I have been lucky in the VVVV Free Print Thread.

I have always recieved the prints promised me.
:smile:

I have probably gotten 15 prints from that thread over the years.

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I'm sorry that you had a problem.

If you don't have a South American print...

I'd be more than glad to give you one.

just let me know...if you would like one.

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I have always thought that the VVVV free print thread should have better rules.

It would be easy for someone new to just to go in and get some free prints and never send any out...if they were dishonest.

Maybe it should have the member have more than 3 months and 1 trade rating before entering the thread?

Does that sound fair?

After all they could trade in their own thread and get feedback before entering the VVVV free print thread.

Lets see what everyone else has to say about this.

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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: Roadkill]
    #4527934 - 08/12/05 10:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I am all for adding a time requisite to the FPT, something along the lines of at least 3 months of membership.  As for a trade rating, I'm on the fence - I think that the FPT is a good way for new members to get more personally involved in this community, and while I see the obvious merit of requiring a single trade rating before participation is allowed, I think this will prevent a lot of legitimate members from participating, simply because they don't have anything to trade or don't want to trade openly.

Then again, if they don't have anything to trade, that probably means they don't have spores for the FPT :wink:

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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: geokills]
    #4527942 - 08/12/05 10:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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I am all for adding a time requisite to the FPT





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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: motaman]
    #4528508 - 08/13/05 02:04 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

that really bites. i don't understand why someone would do that...all ya have to do is make a print and send it out...its not like it takes a lot of work.

btw, i am kinda new here, so maybe i am understanding this wrong, but how could someone receive a rating for trading IF they aren't allowed to trade? I am not asking to be sarcastic, i am just wondering how this works...


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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: Roadkill]
    #4528621 - 08/13/05 02:33 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Roadkill said:
I guess I have been lucky in the VVVV Free Print Thread.

I have always recieved the prints promised me.
:smile:

I have probably gotten 15 prints from that thread over the years.

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I'm sorry that you had a problem.

If you don't have a South American print...

I'd be more than glad to give you one.

just let me know...if you would like one.

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I have always thought that the VVVV free print thread should have better rules.

It would be easy for someone new to just to go in and get some free prints and never send any out...if they were dishonest.

Maybe it should have the member have more than 3 months and 1 trade rating before entering the thread?

Does that sound fair?

After all they could trade in their own thread and get feedback before entering the VVVV free print thread.

Lets see what everyone else has to say about this.

tc




It's all good RK...I have me enough prints to survive a nuclear fallout.

It's true... we do have to keep in mind that the FPT helps out a lot of newbies to expand their genetic archives.
I personally think that 3 months is a little harsh..1 1/2 months would be ideal.
I have noticed that a lot of the crooks in the FPT have a few or non post...so that might be a good factor to keep notice of.
Just one  good trade rating would probably satisfy my worry of being ripped off.
...then again if someone really wanted some free prints they could just open a new account, and give themselves a good trade rating...this is a tough one.

Pluto


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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: SylowsEukaryote]
    #4528689 - 08/13/05 02:52 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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btw, i am kinda new here, so maybe i am understanding this wrong, but how could someone receive a rating for trading IF they aren't allowed to trade? I am not asking to be sarcastic, i am just wondering how this works...




Just trade somewhere else than the FPT. It's just one thread after all, as opposed to the entire marketplace.


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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: Tien]
    #4528966 - 08/13/05 04:35 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

That's why it's called the free print thread, you can assume that you are giving away a free print.
Better to give than receive.
We can all get burned, when we trade, I got ripped off enough when I first started trading here. Several times in fact. I know it makes you feel angry at first, then the anger passes and at the end of the day it's only a print and a stamp.
There has always been problems with this thread, and there has been several attempts to impose rules on it. There has never been a crystal clear solution.

You have to assume you may never receive your end of the bargain.

You don't have to reply to anybody in that thread, if there is someone with no rates, don't reply if you don't want to get burned.

That thread is a gateway to trading in this community, it's also a ticket to a free print if someone doesn't hold their end of the bargain.

The free print thread, does exactly what it says on the tin :wink:

By the way, I am still waiting from that print from you!

Don't trade in it if you don't want to get burned!


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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #4529365 - 08/13/05 08:19 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

We all take chances when we trade through the FPT, there will always be someone out there looking for a freebie without giving one back. Regardless of any rules imposed on the thread. I myself have been fortunate enough where that has not happened but do know of a few others that have been screwed out of a print/syringe. Guess what, we really don't see those people around here too much anymore either, the ones that did the screwing that is.
I thought there was a time frame/# of posts requirement already to access the marketplace. 15 days/25 posts. Am I wrong here or what?

My biggest problem with the FPT is the quality of prints that are sent out, I know i am tired of getting prints that are all smeared and/or improperly packaged. Don't get me wrong sure they are still able to be used but it would still be nice to get one that you can actually see the print.
Maybe a time frame of 3 months would be a good idea, cause if after that time they are still around frequently then they are serious about the hobby and should have some experience with making prints/syringes.

over and out
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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: backupwards]
    #4529522 - 08/13/05 09:41 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I've received prints off users who have been here for years that are totally substandard, contammed or already used.
This is not an excuse for imposing a time limit rule on the thread.
Like you say there is already a limit set to when you can enter marketplace.

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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #4529595 - 08/13/05 10:25 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Thankfully I've never been ripped off in the fpt.

Actually only trade I never got anything back was from someone well known, something I really didn't expect to happen.

I agree to making more strict rules for the fpt, actually, to the whole marketplace forum.


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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #4529602 - 08/13/05 10:31 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i guess there is no real way of securing a 100% guaranteed successful trade..lets just use our common sense and start looking more closely at the members we are about to trade with

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DreaMaTrix said:By the way, I am still waiting from that print from you!





Im in Canada so I hope the print will be there next week...and youre not getting just a print btw :wink:

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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT *DELETED* [Re: Tien]
    #4530286 - 08/13/05 03:33 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: poboy]
    #4530296 - 08/13/05 03:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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poboy said:
Been ripped 3 times in the fpt.It sucks but i have traded with alot of good peeps too.What are you going to do.I won a syringe from a sponsor 2 weeks ago still no syringe.To me its sad to do a contest and make the winners wait and wait before shipping the prize.I will never buy from any sponsor who makes me wait weeks.Not a good way to get peeps buying from you.Poboy





..I know how you feel..I also won a contest and a cirtain sponsor (lets not mention any names) *violent cough* SD *violent cough*
promised a print...I waited and waited and no print...contacted them and was reasurred its on the way...and that was the end of it.
Yes. Lets not hold giveaways if no one is going to get anything.


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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: Tien]
    #4530330 - 08/13/05 03:51 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i hear ya both, still haven't received a nice b+ syringe either. i wonder oh i wonder will it ever come.
maybe someday
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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: poboy]
    #4530444 - 08/13/05 04:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I've had problems with people not coming through with contest winnings. A one shroom trade rating is usually all the motivation they need. Don't threaten to give the rating, just give it. That's worked for me.


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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4530570 - 08/13/05 05:22 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i think i will pm them first and see what is up before i go that route. atleast give them a chance to do the right thing.
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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: backupwards]
    #4530708 - 08/13/05 06:23 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I sent out all my prints in the FPT but some people don't leave trade feedback. So sometimes i have low trade rating.


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Re: Tired of being ripped off in the FPT [Re: Liquidkick]
    #4530740 - 08/13/05 06:40 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

well liquid i went and gave you a rating mmkay. you think everyone i have sent prints to or traded with has left a rating, you are mistaken. thanks for the PESH, at least you are honest enough to send them out so a big THANKS for that.
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