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e?go Audio pronunciation of "ego" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (g, g)
n. pl. e?gos

1. The self, especially as distinct from the world and other selves.
2. In psychoanalysis, the division of the psyche that is conscious, most immediately controls thought and behavior, and is most in touch with external reality.
3.
1. An exaggerated sense of self-importance; conceit.
2. Appropriate pride in oneself; self-esteem.

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Liquid_Silver said:

Can any one explain this well? I have read some on this issue, as I believe I went through this, once upon a time when I was younger. A friend of mine <Thremix> believes he has experienced the separation of his ego with the certain help of an Amazing cactus. What dose Ego bondage mean to you?

*A few things I have seen with my friend*
*he seems more and more to slip away from his ego separation. He says to me that "it's like I forget even though I don't want to". It seems to me it could have just been the effect of the drug, and nothing more? He says to me (and it makes sense) "it could be the effect of the drug but the memory is all you need," I wonder if there is more to this? What do you guys think?

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OldWoodSpecter said:

you said, detaching the ego from your self..



aren't ego and self the same thing?
If you tried to detach ego from self, you would get two pieces of ego

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OldWoodSpecter said:

you mean there is another guy inside my head that is as aware as me as I am of him?

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basically, if youve ever smoked salvia, you might have experienced him, he isn't that smart, he knows alot but he doesn't do much thinking other than what your body is physically doing at the moment

OldWoodSpecter said:

aren't ego and self the same thing?

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Nope, they are not.


Peace.

SerioOria said:

OldWoodSpecter said:

you mean there is another guy inside my head that is as aware as me as I am of him?

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basically, if youve ever smoked salvia, you might have experienced him, he isn't that smart, he knows alot but he doesn't do much thinking other than what your body is physically doing at the moment

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OldWoodSpecter said:

SerioOria said:

OldWoodSpecter said:

you mean there is another guy inside my head that is as aware as me as I am of him?

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basically, if youve ever smoked salvia, you might have experienced him, he isn't that smart, he knows alot but he doesn't do much thinking other than what your body is physically doing at the moment

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you can also meet lizard people and guant squids, but it doesn't mean they exist

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Doesn't mean they don't either.

Icelander said:

Depends on how you define real (reel ) now doesn't it.

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Fucknuckle said:

Sounds like I wouldn't want to live without either one.

The first example of Ego and living without it sounds like being very dead.

The second ego is the one I need to make me feel better when I have completely failed or missed the boat.

Not that needing my petty ego is what's best but it is my very best friend and knows me the best........... outside God that is.


But I do understand what you said. Thanks. Ego is the shell from which I live in this plane of existence. It is the walls from which I was born in to. Ego as you explained it is being a human living in a human world and realizing your human living in a human world. Without it I would be a bag of pond scum

This way of looking at Ego seems like a waste of time.......... er maybe that is not what I mean

So the entire point is what then ? I mean, if one is deal with this type of Ego. What or where or why ? would you want to detach yourself from this ? What would be the end result ? Finding our true purpose or true self ?................ Love and God ?

See I still don't see the great question or the answer in pursuing this type of " Ego "

The only conclusion I can see is to find the true purpose to living breathing humans

Hum...........

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redgreenvines said:

let's say you have some animal instincts and body experiences some learned reflexes and memory all feeding into your consciousness at the same time.

where is the ego in that?

let's say you have connections with other people and they have them with you, like chapters in your book of life, you can look them up and savour or take note of what has previously gone down.

let's say someone dies and their book is removed from the shelf never to be returned, but their pages in our books are still there - it pulls on our (book) spines we are torn by grief but do not give up on our memories.

where is the ego in that?

mostly what people call ego is the piggish part of our animal instinctive behaviour, and ego loss on drugs weakens reflexive behaviour and instinct. it is temporary, unless it is dulling or in some rare cases some insight is gained and people work to rise above habit and instinct to be better humans.

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Huehuecoyotl said:

If you are discussing the Buddhist concept of nirvana, then to be detached from the ego is to not cling to the wants of the self, but use this detachment to acheive clarity of mind. One does not lose the ego, but one does transcend it. This is acheived by knowing the self.

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After egodeath I still had my ego about as much as before sometimes (but got a bit more of a hippy)
the difference is that I now know when it is trying to take over
and can correct it before/right after it takes over.

With time it might be possible to always know before letting it take over, sometimes I can, but not always.

I always know when it takes over now, every single time.
Realize it right after.

An awareness of your ego you could call it.
It is like a separate me, that tries to do what I don't want.


By thinking positive and seeing that we are all the same and realizing I have everything in common with everybody, and seeing the good in people I can keep it down somewhat.

bwt. it is very hard to write anything without the ego taking over much easier to talk without it taking over for some reason

The reason I don't want the ego to take control again is that I can't see the truth then, I like feeling one with everybody I meet and seeing nature this way - like a miracle. (yup very hard to write this without sounding egoistical to others:P)

    before LSD egodeath:

    60lbs overweight suddenly,only enjoyment in life was spending fridays,sat,sundags doing homework and working 16 hours a day

    only enjoyment in life was overeating,overconsuming and buying stuff

    after LSD egodeath:

    love every part of myself, every part of the world, my plants, my birds (pets), my family,friends,nephew , nature

    feel free,happy each day for the first time in 15 years.

    started singing,dancing,playing guitar,drawing

    got a new job that I enjoy more than the old one where I got paid 3 times as much


but I realized that I am no better than anyone else
actually I realize no matter what experience I have had, somebody has had it before me, and will in the future too
we are all the same, but couldn't see it before egodeath
now I see it everyday, with every person I meet

Peace

mio said:

Would rather throw a party than a funeral

But it was about a year ago, think I died 2-3 times in one acidtrip.

It is very personal to me, so I only shared as I thought it was relevant

Egodeath is pretty common with psychedelics, but took me around 150 trips to get to it (and didn't even believe it at first, people around me noticed it more than I did, was a different person)

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Yage said:

150 trips for an ego death? Now your really fuck huh?

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