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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: noxy]
    #4713345 - 09/26/05 09:38 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

RR could you identify a red spore producing cube just by the color of the gills and the fact that it bruises a blue/greenish color with out a print.

The reason why I'm asking is because I found cube that had off white gills and bruised green.(I didn't take a print) I would like to go back to the same place to see if their would be more. So could you tell me if these look like the "RED Boy" Its kind of a long shot with out a print I know.... but if you can identify them it will a least point me in the right direction
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: EonTan]
    #4735024 - 09/30/05 02:20 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Ok - I have re-read the post and I was off tack with what I was saying - i apoligise. Likewise I will look forward to seeing the paper regarding the above.
Bash me if im still reading this wrong (and im in a hurry at an internet cafe so taht is quite possible) but I still think people here are looking at the red-spore characteristic like it is the one facet that breaks mushrooms with that characteristic into a seperate 'strain' of cubensis.
The whole concept of strain specific characteristics isnt valid - the same mushroom spore-match with exactly the same genetics can produce a huge variety if possible phenotype characteristics - some more likely over selection to re-occur (hence the PF albino point raised earlier), some less likely.
By selection it would be possible to promote certain phenotypes - the albino PF and the red-spored mushroom - but what your talking about this person doing is beyond that.


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5016798 - 12/05/05 08:14 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

The experiment was duplicated by crossing the 50/50 Redboy-PR back to the original 20 year old spores. The result is a 75% pure Redboy strain. Enjoy.
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5016953 - 12/05/05 09:09 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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The experiment was duplicated by crossing the 50/50 Redboy-PR back to the original 20 year old spores.  The result is a 75% pure Redboy strain.  Enjoy.
RR





now that's some funky :laugh:
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5016966 - 12/05/05 09:15 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

here's some pics of my prints from a grow of the original rb/pr cross spores.
i believe it was a success :laugh: !


thanks RR for bringing this potent badboy back!


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #5017131 - 12/05/05 10:25 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

jsut read this whole thread and i think its pretty freakn cool what uve done RR, is there anyway a person like myself or others can get ahold of some of these spores?


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: zenman223]
    #5024659 - 12/06/05 05:15 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

they dont look very red...

edit after reading past page 1  :rolleyes:

dood! good freaking work! is there a waiting list somewhere for a red print?  :grin:

well done, for sure...

p.p.s.
how is the potency on the red-spore strain?


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: starseed1066]
    #5025970 - 12/06/05 09:34 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Potency is fucking amazing for a cube.
1 gram felt like a 3-4 gram cube trip. in fact it didnt feel quite like a normal cube trip, had more of a "body high" than most cubes that i have eaten. also notice they bruise GREEN not green-blue.


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #5027417 - 12/07/05 06:37 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

>notice they bruise GREEN not green-blue.

This is something every P. cubensis does.
The mushroom bruises blue, and since the flesh of P. cubensis has a yellow tone to it, the result is the greenish bruising.

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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: Anno]
    #5027988 - 12/07/05 10:32 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Not exactly anno. These actually DO bruise green instead of blue. Here's a cool mutant pic. You can see the red spores on the stipe near the cap, and the green at the base where it was bruised by picking. By the way anno, I owe you a print because you sent me one last year. PM me an addy and I'll get you a redboy print out.
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5028241 - 12/07/05 11:51 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for backing me up RR, as i havent taken a pic of the green bruising yet, but i will when the next flush finishes (IF it finishes out of the 4 monster pins only 1 is still growing but very slowly now).

this strain seems to abort quite a bit for me compared to most strains, however its not as bad as the PFC when it comes to aborts.


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #5036998 - 12/08/05 11:49 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Grimocin said:
Potency is fucking amazing for a cube.
1 gram felt like a 3-4 gram cube trip. in fact it didnt feel quite like a normal cube trip, had more of a "body high" than most cubes that i have eaten.




jesus tits. that's amazing.


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: starseed1066]
    #5038224 - 12/09/05 08:29 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

i should let you know i'm kinda sensitive to mushies. 1/2 a gram makes me feel pretty damn good (level 1) , and 4-5 grams gets me to level 5. i thought the redboys were good potency because i had tripped on 2 grams of costas about 3 days before the 1 gram redboy.
felt like absolutely no tolerance.


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5055165 - 12/12/05 10:14 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Way to go Roger! :thumbup: I was really hoping this would turn out successful. How fortunate for mycology and shroomerites.

Has Peele/FMRC released any samples yet? If not, will you be working to distribute them?


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: Dragonaut]
    #5198691 - 01/19/06 11:52 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I just thought, if you could get the albino mushrooms, with red spores, youd have red white and blue mushrooms...imagine the marketing...the president could endorse them.


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: scatmanrav]
    #5200123 - 01/19/06 07:29 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Except this strain bruises green, not blue. :wink:
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5200885 - 01/19/06 10:54 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Well, fix it!


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5205772 - 01/21/06 07:40 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Could you post pics of the red spore PC with a normal PC 8eside it? And could you do the same with the prints.

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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: scatmanrav]
    #5205848 - 01/21/06 08:39 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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Well, fix it!




It ain't broke...lol

Roach6, scroll back through this thread for pictures. I typically post pictures a year or so after the grow, so these are all old and I've switched to strictly legal edibles and medicinals. I don't even have cube pictures or product to pose next to a redboy. Sorry. Here's a picture of a fruitbody with the reddish color showing on the veil, and a print. That's the best I can do. Lots of folks growing these now, and Ralphster has syringes. I'm sure there's a ton of pictures on the way.
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5208953 - 01/22/06 02:37 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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