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The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis * 3
    #4520275 - 08/10/05 10:42 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

After 20 years of sleeping, the RedBoy lives! See the latest issue(August) of FMRC's Teonanacatl for the first article on the return of this very rare mushroom.

A mycological Coup d'Etat had to be pulled off to get this mushroom back after 20 years. The spores would simply NOT germinate. The result is a 'cross' between the original UNgerminated redboy spores and a cubensis from puerto rico. Details of this experiment and a sporeprint are planned for an upcoming issue of Teonanacatl. However, here's a sneak preview to whet your appetite. Even though this is a cross,(NOT hybrid since it's two strains of the same species) you can clearly see the red color of the spores. Work is underway to remove the PR component to get back to pure Redboy.
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit] * 1
    #4520840 - 08/11/05 12:54 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

After this stain has its "kinks" worked out, will it be distributed commercially?


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: Dragonaut] * 1
    #4521021 - 08/11/05 01:59 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

wow i am verry interested do get back on this :cool:


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: myCo_psyCo] * 1
    #4521352 - 08/11/05 07:39 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Pretty cool huh? You should see the rig he used to hydrate the spores! Crafty! lol

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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit] * 1
    #4521939 - 08/11/05 12:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Who is claiming to have done this? YOU or the FMRC.

I call bullshit either way.

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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: EonTan] * 1
    #4522764 - 08/11/05 03:43 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: motaman] * 1
    #4523492 - 08/11/05 06:43 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

The pf redspore is a much lighter color than these. The RedBoy is more of an 'auburn red'.
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit] * 1
    #4523633 - 08/11/05 07:26 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

good stuff RR, are the prints still available in the august issue FMRC, if i were to say get a subscription now, would i still be able to get the august issue?
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    #4523927 - 08/11/05 09:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: ] * 1
    #4523954 - 08/11/05 09:35 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

The august issue has an article and picture. No prints yet.
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit] * 1
    #4524050 - 08/11/05 09:59 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

It's catalog number SO4241 (or SO424I, I can't tell from Stephen's handwriting). Go to FMRC's page and see if that's available. Can't hurt to ask.
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit] * 1
    #4526175 - 08/12/05 11:51 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I know there are red spore cubensis out there, just doubting the method in which this particular one is being restored. I doubt seriously that peele can do protplast isolation from non germinated spores, fuse these with PR protoplasts, let them sporulate, and then be able to remove the PR from the resulting recombined and MIXED NEW STRAIn spores.

Personally I don't think a strain that doesn't produce all of the spore pigmentation is worth the trouble to even attempt. And you can't remove the PR from the New strain. The best you can do is hope that the trait is passed to the hybrid strain, and that it does not get lost in future generations of the new strain. But you do not have the original REDSPORE strain, or the original PR once they are crossed. You can never get the original back.

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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: EonTan] * 1
    #4526996 - 08/12/05 03:42 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Wierd, I though you can something to do with teonanactl or whatever it is, because of your old name and its name. Interesting..they say details on the experiment will be released? So details on how this "cross" was made will be released?


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: scatmanrav] * 1
    #4527744 - 08/12/05 06:59 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

and why again is a red spored strain such a big deal?

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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: yousuck] * 2
    #4528176 - 08/12/05 09:49 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Gotta love doubters. I especially like words such as can't and never. They serve to keep the rest of us working hard.
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit] * 1
    #4529636 - 08/13/05 08:54 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Agreed!

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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: yousuck] * 1
    #4529957 - 08/13/05 11:23 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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and why again is a red spored strain such a big deal?




If you eat a red spored shroom it will take you to the 11th level of enlightenment. Regular shrooms only go to 10.

Also, there is a bonus level on level 10 that you need the red spores for to get the glowing brain of the ancient super space ninja.

And the space ninja brain knows everything dewd.










Seriously though, it's just a novelty item for collectors, and I believe its existence may cast some doubt upon the current classification scheme.


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
    #4530025 - 08/13/05 11:58 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I'm certainly waiting for my sample and curious myself. Always interested in an oddity, and sometimes they wind up to be more than that down the line. I doubt that despite efforts extended the entire taxonomic methods or rationale will be radically changed. Could be, but it will all depend on what everyone learns from the strain when we have a chance to work with it. (I hate "Someday soon..." things and prefer "We have it and here you are" things most...)
I kinda wish Peele had kept it under his hat until closer to the wire because it really does create a lot of pre-evidence speculation that drives people nuts. I think he is so excited about the reclamation himself that he just had to tell :smile:


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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
    #4530793 - 08/13/05 05:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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and why again is a red spored strain such a big deal?




If you eat a red spored shroom it will take you to the 11th level of enlightenment. Regular shrooms only go to 10.

Also, there is a bonus level on level 10 that you need the red spores for to get the glowing brain of the ancient super space ninja.
And the space ninja brain knows everything dewd.





Finally, the truth comes out...lol
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Re: The Return of the Red Spore Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4537718 - 08/15/05 11:53 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Ladies and gentleman. The nobel prize goes to Stephen peele for his contribution to Meiotic recombination research on planet earth.

Essentially folks, he would get one if he can do what he claims.

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