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Offlinecb9fl
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School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming.
    #4519290 - 08/10/05 08:46 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticl...VOLUTION-DC.XML

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The 10-member board must still take a final vote, expected in either September or October, but a 6-4 vote on Tuesday that approved a draft of the standards essentially cemented a victory for conservative Christian board members who say evolution is largely unproven and can undermine religious teachings about the origins of life on earth.




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but it would encourage teachers to discuss various viewpoints and eliminate core evolution theory as required curriculum.




What are they going to think of next? Some guy survived days inside a fish?




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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: cb9fl]
    #4519366 - 08/10/05 09:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Kansas is the shittiest state ever. Not like they could comprehend anything beyond the short stories in the Bible there anyway.


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: cb9fl]
    #4520827 - 08/11/05 02:51 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Sometimes I don't sufficiently appreciate living on the West coast.


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: Ravus]
    #4521300 - 08/11/05 08:08 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Kansas is the shittiest state ever.



Wrong. Texas is the grand prize winner for the shittiest state ever.


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: Ravus]
    #4521324 - 08/11/05 09:04 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

> Kansas is the shittiest state ever.

Actually, Kansas had (at least back in the 80's) one of the best education systems of any state in the union.  This does remind me of an old joke... why do all the trees in Missouri lean to the left?  Kansas sucks.  :wink:


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: cb9fl]
    #4521479 - 08/11/05 11:36 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

ridiculous. Gravity is just a theory as well. Just because its a *theory* doesnt exactly mean its not proven.


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #4521566 - 08/11/05 12:42 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Actually, Evolution is considered scientific fact by the scientific community. Not to teach the most incredible find in the earth sciences is a crime.


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: trick]
    #4521587 - 08/11/05 12:50 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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trick said:
Actually, Evolution is considered scientific fact by the scientific community. Not to teach the most incredible find in the earth sciences is a crime.



In science, there is no such thing as "fact." Theories can be supported by evidence, but they can never be proven right, only wrong.


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: Silversoul]
    #4521589 - 08/11/05 12:52 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
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trick said:
Actually, Evolution is considered scientific fact by the scientific community. Not to teach the most incredible find in the earth sciences is a crime.



In science, there is no such thing as "fact."  Theories can be supported by evidence, but they can never be proven right, only wrong.




http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=scientific+fact

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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: cb9fl]
    #4521643 - 08/11/05 01:14 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Would that be sea-roaming pirates or digital pirates?


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: cb9fl]
    #4521709 - 08/11/05 01:32 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

is that his holiness the allmighty Spaghetti Monster?


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: Grav]
    #4521723 - 08/11/05 01:34 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

society is creepy.

if enough people deem it so, science seems like it could become very taboo.


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: Grav]
    #4522348 - 08/11/05 04:14 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck, they aren't looking in the right places for the pirates then!

I'm a fucking internet pirate goddamnit and I want to sue that stupid school!

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: Silversoul]
    #4522516 - 08/11/05 04:50 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
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trick said:
Actually, Evolution is considered scientific fact by the scientific community. Not to teach the most incredible find in the earth sciences is a crime.



In science, there is no such thing as "fact." Theories can be supported by evidence, but they can never be proven right, only wrong.




Evolution is an observable fact. Evolution by natural selection is a theory. And a damn strong one, convergent evolution being one of the stronger bits of evidence.


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: cb9fl]
    #4523577 - 08/11/05 09:06 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Is this about natural selection, or specifically about human evolutionary ancestry.

I'm surprised more branches of science aren't being attacked for contradictory teaching, such as teaching that the Earth is billions of years old.


Are we going to start teaching our kids that the Earth may only be 10,000 years old?


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #4523683 - 08/11/05 09:38 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Every Christian, Jewish and Islamic religious school teaches exactly that. The Hindus? Buddhists? Others? I don't know.


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: Ravus]
    #4523687 - 08/11/05 09:39 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Ravus said:
Kansas is the shittiest state ever.




Too true. The only thing worse than driving through Kansas is staying there for any amount of time. I went to Wichita once to see a friend, and i'm positive that it was the worst city i've ever been to. It's just like one big meth slum. Whores everywhere and white trash morons every where. Also, it seemed like everyone was ugly as hell. It was erie how many ugly chicks i saw. Probably alot of bible belt inbreeders.


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: trick]
    #4525595 - 08/12/05 07:02 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

> Actually, Evolution is considered scientific fact by the scientific community.

Considering that there is no such thing as a "scientific fact", I fear you are mistaken. The closest that science will get to a calling something a fact is naming it a law. Even then, a law is simply a theory that has been accepted by the bulk of the scientific community for a very long time. Scientific laws are still broken and replaced with new theories from time to time. Einstein, for example, replaced Newton's second Law of Motion with a new understanding that seems to work correctly at velocities approaching the speed of light.

> Not to teach the most incredible find in the earth sciences is a crime

What, they stopped teaching about the discovery of the wheel?

Edit: (just read the rest of the thread)

> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=scientific+fact

Did you bother to read the definition they provide:

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n : an observation that has been confirmed repeatedly and is accepted as true (although its truth is never final)




Hehe... I looked up scientific law as well, and comparing the two, I suspect I see what happened here. It is a scientific fact that water boils at 100C at STP. This is a scientific fact because scientists have defined the value of 100C to be the point at which water boils at STP. The fact is by definition, not by measurement. This is a fine line, but a very important difference. However, I have never once before this thread heard anybody use the words "scientific fact" together and I have spent many years of my life working in a lab. Plenty of "scientific laws", but not once a "scientific fact".


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: Seuss]
    #4525690 - 08/12/05 08:26 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

zappaisgod
Evolution is an observable fact.

seuss
The closest that science will get to a calling something a fact is naming it a law. Even then, a law is simply a theory that has been accepted by the bulk of the scientific community for a very long time.


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Re: School teaches lack of pirates causes global warming. [Re: cb9fl]
    #4525718 - 08/12/05 09:23 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

this makes me think of my grandfather who thinks that global warming is a liberal ploy to curb the expansion big business. he says that the environment is far to complicated for us to link the actions of a single sector to the minute changes in worldwide temperature. these changes being on their own, historically expected as the global temperatures are constantly changing anyway. for years my father and i have been sending him articles and scientific journals/reports that show the direct correlations but he will always be adamantly confident that global warming is merely a ploy by the liberal media who has made a incorrect conclusion which has been mindlessly accepted by a majority of the population.
there isn't anything wrong with abstract thought, its failure to reason that hurts our society.


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