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Offlinewillis
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excrutiatingly long colonization
    #4518700 - 08/10/05 05:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

first, i must say that i've done lots of searches on this website for my answer.
my jars have been incubating for 7 weeks. i'd say they're between 75 to 85% complete. i don't have an automated system... i just keep them inside an airtight cooler outside (taking advantage of this terrible florida heat to maintain optimal temperatures.) the humidity should not be a problem at all. i'm gonna give it another week and try birthing them next weekend.
the growth stalled once because i had the jar covered with wax paper... after i removed the wax paper they continued growing.
im gonna case them after birthing. i just wanna hear some professional opinion
:frown:


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Re: excrutiatingly long colonization [Re: willis]
    #4518723 - 08/10/05 05:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

wow that is an extremly long time for colonization. outside in an airtight cooler sounds like an very hot place to keep them, especially in florida. 82-84 F is all the temp you need, you get up much higher than that and the myc grows slower. you can also kill the myc with even higher temps you could be giving it like you are.
what is the substrate in your jars? how did you make it, ratios please?


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Re: excrutiatingly long colonization [Re: willis]
    #4518726 - 08/10/05 05:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

make sure to cut off the uncolonized part before fruiting...If you do that you should be fine.


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Re: excrutiatingly long colonization [Re: willis]
    #4518737 - 08/10/05 05:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

willis said:
the growth stalled once because i had the jar covered with wax paper... after i removed the wax paper they continued growing.
:frown:




sounds like you already know what went wrong. Humidity shouldn't matter when colonizing cakes in jars as i believe that is a high humidity environment. when you birth them, if they aren't 100% colonized just cut off the uncolonized part and you are ready to go :smile:


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Re: excrutiatingly long colonization [Re: willis]
    #4518739 - 08/10/05 05:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I,m in agreement with backupwards, bring those puppies inside before
they completely die.Maybe in a dark closet,


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Re: excrutiatingly long colonization [Re: backupwards]
    #4518844 - 08/10/05 06:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

7 weeks? That's nothing. I have a quart jar of WBS that inoculated in the first week of April that only now is 95% done colonizing. Luckily I had 7 pint jars of verm/brf colonize very quickly (2 to 3 weeks) to occupy my interest. The pint jars are all but done with their 4 flush, and now I can case the quart jar in another week or so.


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Re: excrutiatingly long colonization [Re: hardwaters]
    #4521348 - 08/11/05 09:34 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

well, yesterday when i went home. i noticed that some pins started to grow. so i popped those puppies out into a ziplock bag and picked off the babies; then crumbled the cakes. the bags were put in the fridge overnight. im gonna case them tonight using 50/50 coir/verm. = /.
i feel tense.


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Re: excrutiatingly long colonization [Re: willis]
    #4521454 - 08/11/05 11:08 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

did you pack the mixture when you put it in? that could explain the ridiculously colonization times. Dont pack


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Re: excrutiatingly long colonization [Re: willis]
    #4521466 - 08/11/05 11:18 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

7 weeks is a very long time. It is probably due to being outside. Temp changes will cause that. I know in FL, the temps can go from 80-90 over night, that will definately slow your growth.

Next grow, keep the things inside...it should be plenty warm for them. If you don't have an actual incubator, you could put them in a box over your fridge.

It could have also slowed because of C02, especially with that wax paper. If, on your next grow, it slows again, try flipping the jar for a few days, but don't use the wax paper. They do need a little bit of air during incubation.

GL to ya on yer casing.


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Re: excrutiatingly long colonization [Re: srgtm1a]
    #4521507 - 08/11/05 12:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Edited by Psilovibe (04/18/06 02:23 AM)


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Re: excrutiatingly long colonization [Re: Psilovibe]
    #4521529 - 08/11/05 12:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

im using BRF jars that i bought from a vendor on this site. don't remember the name... but word on the board is that they're reputable. i noticed that there wasn't a vermiculite layer.


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