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OfflineLethalX5
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The dangers of "sherm"
    #4517190 - 08/10/05 07:26 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

This kid died playing a "choking game"

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/09/choking.game/index.html

PARADISE, California (CNN) -- Looking back, Sarah Pacatte realizes she missed the warning signs.

But at the time, the mother of four thought maybe her 13-year-old son, Gabriel Mordecai, was smoking marijuana. She never imagined he was putting a rope around his neck and choking himself for a rush.

"A couple of months before he died, he became very hostile, very angry, and he complained of horrible headaches," Pacatte said. "Then I started seeing bloodshot eyes."

What killed him in May was the "choking game," one of the names for a practice in which children use their hands, arms, ropes or belts to cut oxygen to their brains and pass out.

Pacatte says she wants to warn other parents about the risks before it's too late for them.

"I feel a little bit of anger, but mostly I feel desperation and urgency," she says.

It's already too late for 13-year-old Chelsea Dunn of Idaho and 14-year-old Jason Linkins of North Carolina, whose deaths in recent years were among those thought to be the result of similar suffocation games.

Details of how the "game" is played, once passed among schoolmates, now spread on the Internet.

Gabriel's twin brother and best friend, Sam, says they learned of it from an older boy, who showed them how to hyperventilate and apply pressure to their necks.

"You kind of like pass out for a few seconds," Sam explains.

"It's a sensation ... like we've never experienced before," he said, calling it "weird."

But Gabriel's initial response was more enthusiastic, Sam says.

"It's awesome," he recalls his brother exclaiming.

"I really didn't like it that much," he says, adding that he did it out of peer pressure.

When Sarah found out her sons were playing, she told them to stop.

"Gabriel was argumentative about this game," Pacatte said. She recalls him saying, "What's the big deal? I'm not taking any drugs; I'm not drinking or anything."

"I said, 'The big deal is that every time you cut your oxygen off to your brain, you're causing brain damage little by little.'"

Children have likely been playing the "choking game" for a long time, Connecticut-based child psychologist Dr. Lawrence Shapiro told The Associated Press.

Shapiro, author of "The Secret Language of Children," told the AP that parents should discuss such dangerous behavior with their children, in addition to talking about drugs and alcohol.

"Younger kids don't know that they can die from this, that it's a very dangerous activity," Shapiro told the news agency.

But Gabriel loved the sensation, his mother said.

"It was almost like a drug," she said. "They crave it; they crave the high that they get from the lack of oxygen."

Gabriel began to play alone.

"One day he was doing it to himself," his brother says. "He stopped because I told him I was going to tell Mom."

Despite Pacatte's numerous warnings, Sam says Gabriel kept doing it -- often while their mother was at work.

The day before Gabriel died, she asked him about a mark on his neck.

"He looked at me kind of funny and he said, 'Don't worry mom, it's not a hickey,'" Pacatte says.

The next evening, while Pacatte was preparing dinner, Sam went into his room and found his brother with a rope around his neck. When his brother didn't respond, he yelled, "Gabe!"

"When I got to the bedroom door, Samuel was across the room behind his brother," Pacatte says. "He was holding his brother up under his arms."

Gabriel was airlifted to a hospital in Sacramento. Sarah and Sam made the gut-wrenching, two-hour journey by car.

They prayed at Gabriel's side, but 15 hours later, Pacatte says, "He died on life support. His body shut down."

Pacatte says their apartment is too quiet now.

"It's very hard to watch Sam be without his brother," she says. "We miss him so much."

She even misses the bickering.

"I miss the fighting," she says. "I'd gladly give up my life just to see those two kids fight."

The family takes some comfort in their memories of Gabriel and from the words in his journal.

"I plan to go to college for four years," Sam reads from his brother's writings. "I plan to send my mom about $500 a month to help support her."

Wiping away tears, Pacatte says that months later she remains angry and hurt.

"I have guilt, so much guilt, because I didn't save my baby," she says. "What a beautiful child; what a beautiful gift. And he's gone."

"In the blink of an eye, my boy is gone," she says.

Copyright 2005 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: LethalX5]
    #4517195 - 08/10/05 07:28 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

HOLY SHIT. That's local, that town is less than 8 miles up the road from my town.


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4517196 - 08/10/05 07:29 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It's a fucking tweaker town.


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4517226 - 08/10/05 07:51 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

That's more dangerous than smoking a joint, dumb bitch...

All she has to do is get pregnant by a black guy again, and she can easily replace her dead kid...


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: FreshCaps]
    #4517240 - 08/10/05 08:04 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

FreshCaps said:
All she has to do is get pregnant by a black guy again, and she can easily replace her dead kid...




o easily...


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: LethalX5]
    #4517245 - 08/10/05 08:08 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: LethalX5]
    #4517258 - 08/10/05 08:25 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

legalize real drugs and stop lying about their effects


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4517281 - 08/10/05 08:54 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Natural selection at its best. We should teach this technique to the "slow" kids in school.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: LethalX5]
    #4517303 - 08/10/05 09:04 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

hahahahaha

I hope this made the front page of the paper, I'm gonna go check.


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4517321 - 08/10/05 09:40 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I knew people in high school that liked to choke themselves. Not while masturbating or anything but yea they were pretty dumb kids. I did something like that once. My friend told me he could make me pass out by pushing on my stomach so I called bullshit on him. So I played his little game, bent over standing up and took a bunch of deep breaths then stood up and he pushed on my stomach. I passed right out, my two other friends just sat and watched me, they thought I was faking it. I was out for like a minute and I remember having a dream, I woke up thinking :wtf:
I never did it again.


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: LethalX5]
    #4517340 - 08/10/05 09:55 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Obviously he died because he didn't completely sherm...he wasn't masturbating! :sherm:


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4518084 - 08/10/05 02:16 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

shit. sherm to me means a cigarette dipped in liquid PCP, we used to call the "pass out game" deep six. I did it a friend of mine in 7th grade, didnt expect it to work, she passed out and hit the ground while going into small convulsions. Woke up 30 secs later like nothing happened lol.


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: coda]
    #4518089 - 08/10/05 02:18 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Live by the :sherm:

Die by the :sherm:


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #4518105 - 08/10/05 02:23 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

my (idiot) friend told me the EXACT same thing. cept, when i tried it he fucked up and it didnt pass me out. i stood up and he basically punched me in the stomach:smirk: just knocked the wind outta me


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: thegatewaydrug]
    #4518114 - 08/10/05 02:26 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

:lol: That's hilarious dude. What a prick.


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4518120 - 08/10/05 02:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Holy shit! People actually do that?


I know that people actually do "autoerotic asphyxiation", but the idea of little kids actually choking themselves for this reason.... werid.

Darwin strikes again, eh?


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #4518124 - 08/10/05 02:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

he was actually a foaf (fucker was 2 yrs younger then me), he told me he was in karate so i figured he must know how right:shrug: HA i couldnt of been more wrong he was just a complete dumbass. cause he fucked up on that he wanted to try something else (with me of course:mad:). where u put someones head in between a person arm, the inside of the elbow... anyways, u put their head there and squeeze the 2 arteries there and it cuts off blood to ur head and will drop u. iv seen this done before, it works but is really stupid to do


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: thegatewaydrug]
    #4518138 - 08/10/05 02:34 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: LethalX5]
    #4518144 - 08/10/05 02:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

These kids seem to be massivly bored. When I locked myself in my room at thirteen, I wasn't choking myself.


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Re: The dangers of "sherm" [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4518350 - 08/10/05 03:31 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

When I locked myself in my room at thirteen, I wasn't choking myself.




not your neck anyways :wink:


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