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Offlineplasticbob
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Is tea supposed to turn blue?
    #4515544 - 08/09/05 09:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I'm brewing 3.5g in some tea and it went dark blue/purple, is this normal? Has the mush all oxidized or what?


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: plasticbob]
    #4515557 - 08/09/05 09:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Completely normal.


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: plasticbob]
    #4515559 - 08/09/05 09:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Drink Up!  :grin:



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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: SouthPArk]
    #4515561 - 08/09/05 09:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

shit haha, good news! Thanks for the quick info guys


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: plasticbob]
    #4516021 - 08/09/05 11:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Ew man, mix some lipton in there or something.


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: BoringNickName]
    #4518410 - 08/10/05 03:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I had it happen to a few batches before I learned to boil. I sure wouldn't want all those mushroom pieces in there. If pices are still floating you didn't boil long enough, and the water should be tan.
Sure you'll get high, but probably only about as high as if you ate them. Tea should get you much higher than just eating would.


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: MasonsChild]
    #4518416 - 08/10/05 04:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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I had it happen to a few batches before I learned to boil. I sure wouldn't want all those mushroom pieces in there. If pices are still floating you didn't boil long enough, and the water should be tan.
Sure you'll get high, but probably only about as high as if you ate them. Tea should get you much higher than just eating would.




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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: Liquidkick]
    #4518463 - 08/10/05 04:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Why, have you experiences been different?


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: MasonsChild]
    #4518522 - 08/10/05 04:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

what is the proper method to boil? i always just let them sink down and then take a spoon and eat them off the bottom, then drink the tea.

is this proper?


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: Loggy]
    #4518992 - 08/10/05 06:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

There is no proper method. Heat water, add shrooms, steep, drink. Strain shrooms after steeping if you want.

And it will definatly turn blue. Add some absorbic acid, and it will not turn blue though, or if added after it turns blue, will remove the blue.


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4519030 - 08/10/05 07:06 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Why would you want to heat the shrooms? That makes no sense. IT makes the psychotropes lose potency becauise they break down in heat.
Just curious...


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: Jabberw0cky]
    #4519046 - 08/10/05 07:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You heat the WATER (not shrooms), because the chemical is extracted into the water better. It does NOT cause a loss in potency, this is a MYTH.


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: MasonsChild]
    #4519050 - 08/10/05 07:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Tea should get you much higher than just eating would.




How does that work?


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: Jabberw0cky]
    #4519061 - 08/10/05 07:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

When drinking mushroom tea, the lost potency from heating is far made up for by the quicker onset, more intense peak, and less gastrointestinal discomfort.

Also, to destroy the alkaloids it's got to be hot and sustained for a while; I recall stir-frying an ounce of fresh aborts with some tofu over high heat, and wavering in and out of lucidity for the next couple of days, so potency loss from heat is probably not immediate.


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: Jabbawaya]
    #4519175 - 08/10/05 07:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

MasonsChild said:
Tea should get you much higher than just eating would.




How does that work?




Well stomach acids break down the actives quickly, which is why your supposed to chew the mushrooms and hold them in your mouth. If you create a tea, and extract the actives into liquid, they are more quickly absorbed through your mouth. This leads to a quicker come up and a more intense peak. It doesnt really get you high, but it hits you harder, so I guess you could call it hitting you harder. You can get hit harder by eating pre ground mushrooms or chewing and holding them in your mouth though too...tea is just the easiest way to get that bang.


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4519362 - 08/10/05 09:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Until you have tried both ways you will never know. Everyone is different, I'm just posting what happens to me from personal experience. I've also read heat will decompose the actives, but what I've read and what I've done contradict eachother.
Also if the water is already boiling when you add the fruitbodies, it will not turn blue.


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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: MasonsChild]
    #4519508 - 08/10/05 09:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Yes it will, if you stir some oxygen back into it. You boiled all of the excess oxygen out of the water (not the o in H2O, but dissolved oxygen). That stops the oxidation of the psilocin, so without extra oxygen in the water it wont turn blue...after alot of stiring and agitating the water, it will turn blue.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Re: Is tea supposed to turn blue? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4523336 - 08/11/05 08:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Actually, it is not a myth about heat breaking down the chemicals. It is a scientific fact that high heats will break down and diminish the amounts of psilocin/psilocybin in the mushrooms. Dont say it is a myth, when it is a scientific fact shown on many different sites/books saying they have proven it is a fact.


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