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Calling all Deadheads
    #4514963 - 08/09/05 05:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

May I direct your attention to this thread:

http://beatles.murashev.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1123289443

Basically some Beatles fans saying that the Beatles were better than the Dead at EVERYTHING.

I'm Jake btw.

I think you'll have to copy the link into your address bar.


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: Thin White Duke]
    #4514983 - 08/09/05 05:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Those kids have NO idea what they are talking about...I'm not even going to waste my time and energy arguing with the ignorant fuckers. We'll get the last laugh when the revolution is won, and it will win.


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: Thin White Duke]
    #4515035 - 08/09/05 06:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

what do you expect.. its a beatles forum....

that guy who made the thread is a douche anyways


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: Infrared]
    #4515153 - 08/09/05 06:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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DeepBlue42 said:
what do you expect.. its a beatles forum....





I enjoy both bands. Its like comparing Apples to Oranges.


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4515160 - 08/09/05 06:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It's like comparing Bananas to Avocados. :smile:
Both are absolutely awesome! Can't live without either one. :thumbup:


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: ToolTroll]
    #4515261 - 08/09/05 07:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

it's like comparing good music(the beatles) to better music(the dead) :wink:


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: Thin White Duke]
    #4515266 - 08/09/05 07:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The fact that he calls Robert Hunter an "outsider" shows that he has no idea what he's talking about. That guy who started that thread is an idiot. Both bands are great why try to compare them like that?


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: nightkrawler]
    #4515268 - 08/09/05 07:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know about that. I don't feel they have the same style at all. I think they are both great. The beatles didn't do any improv. in their performances that I am aware of but their lyrics where very poetic and trippy. They both had alot of talent.


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: ToolTroll]
    #4515313 - 08/09/05 07:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

What really got me is the scorn in which they view the psychedelic movement, to bash a movement based on One Love.....it makes me sick.


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: Thin White Duke]
    #4515386 - 08/09/05 08:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

honestly (Sadly) i have yet to listen to much of either group (i have skeletons from the closet by Greatfuldead which is awesomeness) But i need to buy some more and also some beetle albums, i dont know which i will like more as of yet :laugh:


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: Dark_Star]
    #4515387 - 08/09/05 08:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't even waste my time reading the thread. The description seemed rather juvenile. The beatles were all about the psychedelics so I don't see how their fans could not appreciate it.


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That's what livin' is to me
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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: Dark_Star]
    #4515435 - 08/09/05 08:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

man i saw like two posts there bashing the dead, and really, they were just bashing the "hippy" culture. Its all association, since these people associate the dead with the hippy culture and not just as a band, they're going to trash them. To me to formulate an opinion on a band based on the bands following is stupid, we all know there are lamers, posers, teeny boppers who populate a crowd but how does that effect the music? So, in the end, and argument based on that is INVALID, and man if i had the right symbols on my computer i could prove it using logic, what it really is is a false analogy (Hippies suck so therefore the dead suck because they are a hippy band). If any of you have taken a debate class, or even a logic class, you know that the fallacy presented renders the argument invalid and therefore useless. I swear, post something along the lines of what i said and see what they come back with. They'll either start in with some ad hominem abusive arguments, or they'll end up backpedalling and fall back on things like, jerry cant sing, or 20 min long jams isnt music. In which case you can again point out their fallacies and make them look even stupider then they've already presented themselves to be.


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: coda]
    #4515620 - 08/09/05 09:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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man i saw like two posts there bashing the dead, and really, they were just bashing the "hippy" culture. Its all association, since these people associate the dead with the hippy culture and not just as a band, they're going to trash them. To me to formulate an opinion on a band based on the bands following is stupid, we all know there are lamers, posers, teeny boppers who populate a crowd but how does that effect the music? So, in the end, and argument based on that is INVALID, and man if i had the right symbols on my computer i could prove it using logic, what it really is is a false analogy (Hippies suck so therefore the dead suck because they are a hippy band). If any of you have taken a debate class, or even a logic class, you know that the fallacy presented renders the argument invalid and therefore useless. I swear, post something along the lines of what i said and see what they come back with. They'll either start in with some ad hominem abusive arguments, or they'll end up backpedalling and fall back on things like, jerry cant sing, or 20 min long jams isnt music. In which case you can again point out their fallacies and make them look even stupider then they've already presented themselves to be.



you should go post that over there. Although I like both bands pretty much equally. It just depends on my mood (or what drugs i'v taken). I hate to see either one of them bashed.


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: dressel11]
    #4515625 - 08/09/05 09:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The Beatles experimented and revolutionized studio recordings. Their primary strengths are songwriting and recording.

The dead on the other hand is ALL about the live shows and improvisation.


You're right, Apples and Oranges, Bananas and Avocados, Motor cars and bicycles, and jumbo planes and SUVs.


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Re: Calling all Deadheads [Re: HuckleBones]
    #4515873 - 08/09/05 10:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i think its been said already, but good music is good music no matter what band is playing.  Good TASTE in music, and what you THINK is good music, is pure opinion and should never be taken seriously.  :smile:  Who cares which is better as long as you can get down and enjoy it!


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