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Shroom Wizard's Guide
    #4511009 - 08/08/05 06:12 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I hear that the general view on his guide is that it sucks pretty bad but I've also heard some success stories with it. However, none of these rants and raves say anything about his updates such as adding honey, using cow manure, inoculating one jar at a time, sterilizing the soil and manure, etc. If a grower uses his tips and tricks will the grow come out okay? I'm a nOOb but I'm eventually going to be growing bulk with Pan Cyan. The reason I wonder if his guide will be good is that I've already purchased all of the stuff he says to use and I'd hate to have to start over with a different guide and different materials. Thanks,
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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: llopez00]
    #4511069 - 08/08/05 06:33 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

dont do it man and especially not for Pan Cyan do some more reading about them right here
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23954
shroom wizard casing with honey and all that bullshit

shroomery Casing TEK


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: llopez00]
    #4511182 - 08/08/05 07:12 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I hear that the general view on his guide is that it sucks pretty bad but I've also heard some success stories with it. However, none of these rants and raves say anything about his updates such as adding honey, using cow manure, inoculating one jar at a time, sterilizing the soil and manure, etc. If a grower uses his tips and tricks will the grow come out okay? I'm a nOOb but I'm eventually going to be growing bulk with Pan Cyan. The reason I wonder if his guide will be good is that I've already purchased all of the stuff he says to use and I'd hate to have to start over with a different guide and different materials. Thanks,
Luciano




:thumbdown: :thumbdown: The whole thing sucks...updates or not....it's total crap.  I don't know why you would buy supplies if you heard that it sucks so bad. 

A majority of the people that try it fail, why would you consider being in the majority?

Stick to the teks found here and have success.

Anything people here "rant and rave" about is for good reason.  I've seen a good amount of post like this lately.  Trust everyone who tells you to stay away from it.


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: mskip23]
    #4511192 - 08/08/05 07:14 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Damn, well I guess I better start all over and do some research. It just sucks that I typed in "shroom grow guide" in a search engine and his guide popped up all over the place. I thought it would be a good one but I guess I should have visited this forum first. Oh well, shit happens and I'm sure that I'll be able to find something useful for a bulk grow here at the shroomery.


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: srgtm1a]
    #4511206 - 08/08/05 07:19 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I hear that the general view on his guide is that it sucks pretty bad but I've also heard some success stories with it. However, none of these rants and raves say anything about his updates such as adding honey, using cow manure, inoculating one jar at a time, sterilizing the soil and manure, etc. If a grower uses his tips and tricks will the grow come out okay? I'm a nOOb but I'm eventually going to be growing bulk with Pan Cyan. The reason I wonder if his guide will be good is that I've already purchased all of the stuff he says to use and I'd hate to have to start over with a different guide and different materials. Thanks,
Luciano




:thumbdown: :thumbdown: The whole thing sucks...updates or not....it's total crap.  I don't know why you would buy supplies if you heard that it sucks so bad. 

A majority of the people that try it fail, why would you consider being in the majority?

Stick to the teks found here and have success.

Anything people here "rant and rave" about is for good reason.  I've seen a good amount of post like this lately.  Trust everyone who tells you to stay away from it.




Well, I bought all the stuff before I found this site. When I found it I joined and started searching to see if people had made the guide even better and I got a disappointing surprise to say the least when I did a couple searches and everyone bashed it. Well, not everyone but most people said it sucked. I saw his comment on yield about 1 pound of dry shrooms per 1 pound of BRF and I thought that was cool. I guess that is bullshit too though. Oh well, I'm not out all that much money.


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: llopez00]
    #4511225 - 08/08/05 07:25 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

That's cool...as long as you found this place, you will be fine in the future. Sometimes lessons are learned the hard way. At least you didn't waste spores on his shit tek. being out of a little money is a lot better than wasting a lot of time AND money. GL TO YA!


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: srgtm1a]
    #4511239 - 08/08/05 07:29 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

you can still use the stuff but just add to with the info here


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: srgtm1a]
    #4511243 - 08/08/05 07:29 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks. BTW, my first grow will be Pan Cyan so I'm apparently going to need a miracle. Oh well, I'll try another strain if I fail. Its just that I've heard so many good things about the effects of Pan Cyan I just had to try it first.


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: llopez00]
    #4511255 - 08/08/05 07:33 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

lol, yeah, cyanes are great mushrooms, but not really one for a first grow. I wish ya luck on that. If you fail at this, go for a cubensis strain.


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: llopez00]
    #4511436 - 08/08/05 08:35 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Thanks. BTW, my first grow will be Pan Cyan so I'm apparently going to need a miracle.





search the site for Alounacara and PawPaw for info on growing Cyans, you may need a few more posts to access the grow logs forum.


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: srgtm1a]
    #4511437 - 08/08/05 08:35 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I've been doing a lot of reading and maybe I could change a few things about SW's grow guide to make it work better. What about using the composted cow manure I bought as a casing material instead of soil? You know, "bottom" manure and perlite, "middle" jar substrate as in SW's guide, and "top" manure again. I'm also thinking of adding ultrasonic humidifiers to the room to bump the humidity up. Where I live the humidity is like 25-35% year round so I know it needs to go up a hell of a lot. I read that Pan Cyan loves manure, humidity, and sterility so I think I may try an altered version of this grow guide and see how I do. I bought the composted manure at my local hardware store at 3-1 cubic foot bags for $5 so I don't know how good it is. As long as I sterilize the jars by boiling them for an hour in a couple of canners, sterilize the rest of the casing mix the same way, and keep humidity really high then the rest of the guide should be okay, right?


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: llopez00]
    #4511454 - 08/08/05 08:42 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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What about using the composted cow manure I bought as a casing material instead of soil? You know, "bottom" manure and perlite, "middle" jar substrate as in SW's guide, and "top" manure again.




you want to 'spawn' not case when you are using manuer, csasings have no nutrition for mushies, they simply provide additional water, using soil is
crap from the start, potting soil usualy contains things you really dont want


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I'm also thinking of adding ultrasonic humidifiers to the room to bump the humidity up.




why not try humidifying a smaller space first


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then the rest of the guide should be okay, right?




not likely, shroom wizard has a lot of flaws in his method that leave openings for contams


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4511466 - 08/08/05 08:45 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Damn. Back to reading I guess.:)


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: llopez00]
    #4511479 - 08/08/05 08:50 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

if I may make a suggestion, start here...

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23363

if you dont have a PC, buy one, it's the most important tool you'll have in this hobby


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4511662 - 08/08/05 09:47 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for that link. I'm looking into pressure cookers/canners now but some of them would take me quite a while to save up for, lol. I'll be needing to sterilize 45-1 quart jars so I guess I could buy two PCs and just plan ahead for a few hours in order to get them done. I've also heard that ovens or microwaves work good for the casing/spawning material. For instance, if I've got a shit load of manure to sterilize for a bulk grow, an oven would work well. Is this not true? I don't mind smelling shit for a while, lol.


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: llopez00]
    #4511668 - 08/08/05 09:49 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

the PC is the best way to go, I still donmt trust microwave sterilization for contam and safety reasons, as long as the manuer is composted it wont have the poo poo smell


http://search.ebay.com/pressure-canner_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: llopez00]
    #4511705 - 08/08/05 09:56 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

baby steps man, baby steps.

Slow down just a little.  You need to have patience.  45 Qt jars is a lot for a first time grow.  Especially for spawning.

Like mentioned, you need a PC'er.  Jump in the car and go to a couple of Thrift Stores that sell second hand stuff.  You can find a pressure cooker at some if you are patient.  The best part is they will only cost ~$20

And look into paseurizing that manure, instead of sterilizing it in the oven.

Good Luck to you.:thumbup:


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: CLUTCH]
    #4511802 - 08/08/05 10:18 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks guys. Hell, my brain is starting to hurt from all the information here. When I grew MJ it was so simple compared to this. Oh well, I'll learn it eventually. Someone should hack/delete Shroom Wizard's site because the EXTREME contradictions between him and this site are frustrating to say the least. Should I attempt to erase everything in his grow guide from my memory and completely start over? I also gather that I should have ordered syringes instead of prints. Can I use the prints I ordered without screwing everything up?


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: llopez00]
    #4511857 - 08/08/05 10:32 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

most of the people that visit the shroom wizard come here soon afterwards because
they tend to do a little more reading, many others just give up... maybe 10% of the people that follow his plan manage to grow something other than mold.

prints are fine as long as they're sterile, check our FAQ and there are a couple of syringe making teks that'll help you along the way.


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Re: Shroom Wizard's Guide [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4512397 - 08/09/05 12:12 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I got them from a sponsor here, I believe it was spores101 but I'm not sure. I assume that my jars that I use for my Pan Cyan substrate (lots of variations in the FAQ, still not sure which one to pick) will be prepared like the jars used in the PF Tek so at least I'm starting to find a base to go from in this sea of information here. I'll just need to do more research. I guess I'm kinda bummed out because I thought that shroom growing was easy after reading SW's guide. Someone needs to delete that damn thing from the internet so nobody else gets fucked up like I did. Talk about confusing.


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