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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Invisiblelooner2
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Re: Purposeless Survival [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4509892 - 08/08/05 08:20 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Or it is all about survival so they are obligated to harm someone.


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Invisiblelooner2
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Re: Purposeless Survival [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4510128 - 08/08/05 10:50 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Or it is all about survival so they are obligated to harm someone.



this obligation is only in th emind of the one who is endangered because he fears death, so his mind invents a right to live.




Roll over and die when threatened? No thanks!


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Re: Purposeless Survival [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4511060 - 08/08/05 04:30 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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OldWoodSpecter said:
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looner2 said:
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OldWoodSpecter said:
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looner2 said:
Or it is all about survival so they are obligated to harm someone.



this obligation is only in th emind of the one who is endangered because he fears death, so his mind invents a right to live.




Roll over and die when threatened? No thanks!




I don't expect you to just roll over and die because I understand your fear, I guess you have to play it out, but you must understand that your life does not have an objective value. You are a mosquito like the rest of us. You have no birth rights, you deserve whatever happens.




I am built to survive, just as the mosquito, just as the cheetah, just as the bacteria. You can embrace the reality of existence or just stand back and try to explain our will to live through one silly emotion. Not deep, nor interesting. Ho hum.

You can argue that we have no objective value to our lives just as you can argue that we are nothing but brains in a vat of water, or that nothing "really" exists. Adding this nihilistic dogma to any subject does nothing to a discussion because its based on nothing and just an endpoint in further analysis.

I don't know if that is what you are getting at with your "objective value" statement, but if its not, you have a lot to explaining to do with the last statement

You have no birth rights, you deserve whatever happens.

Does a 4 year old child deserve to be raped, mutilated, and tortured before being killed because there are no objective values?


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