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Re: Purposeless Survival [Re: FreedomFight]
    #4509806 - 08/08/05 07:04 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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I find it funny that all animals fear death for their survival, yet who ever said survival was so cool :tongue:  Maybe we're all just like the little kid who is afraid to poop.




Humans do it a bit differently, they get frustrated or greedy, and want to harm someone, then they say that their existence is in danger, and they have a moral green light for violence because "its all about survival"

*of to go and insert a smiley*

....damn where is a Bush icon when you need one


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Re: Purposeless Survival [Re: looner2]
    #4510039 - 08/08/05 09:41 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Or it is all about survival so they are obligated to harm someone.




obligated? from perspective of me, you are not obligated to live, you could die as well, from your perspective I am not obligated to live, I could die.

this obligation is only in th emind of the one who is endangered because he fears death, so his mind invents a right to live.


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Re: Purposeless Survival [Re: looner2]
    #4510760 - 08/08/05 02:50 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Or it is all about survival so they are obligated to harm someone.



this obligation is only in th emind of the one who is endangered because he fears death, so his mind invents a right to live.




Roll over and die when threatened? No thanks!




I don't expect you to just roll over and die because I understand your fear, I guess you have to play it out, but you must understand that your life does not have an objective value. You are a mosquito like the rest of us. You have no birth rights, you deserve whatever happens.


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Re: Purposeless Survival [Re: shpongled1]
    #4511004 - 08/08/05 04:10 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Still nobody has to guarantee to nobody that they shal live.

The eternal struggle of life to survive, does not mean that everyone deserves to live, nobody has rights other than those others give them.


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Re: Purposeless Survival [Re: looner2]
    #4511107 - 08/08/05 04:45 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Urge to survive works through panic attacks in moments when life is theatened.

As for children of 4 years, they have rights only if someone gives them.
If nobody thinks they have rights, then they have none. who would otherwise give them rights? god? an old man with a beard?
If the community thinks 4 year old children don't have a right to be protected from rape, then those children have no rights to be protected from rape. It is up to others to give you rights accoarding to their beliefs. It is up to you to judge or not judge the rapist accoarding to your beliefs, moral teachings and natural urges.

this is not nihilism, unless you can come up with some evidence of god or whoever there is to giver rights, you have no logical arguments for objective rights.


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Re: Purposeless Survival [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #4511202 - 08/08/05 05:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

should, should not, must , must not, deserve, deserve not..

...sigh...people  :rolleyes:


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Re: Purposeless Survival [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #4511853 - 08/08/05 08:30 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

you know..you don't need to play it even..

I know some people (not personaly though) that don't have a home, so when winter comes they brake something or rob a place, and call the police, they get arrested, and get a month in a jail, there they have food, a room, sometimes even TV in their cells.


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