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mushrx1
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Neolentinus ponderosus
#4503383 - 08/06/05 09:08 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyone eat Neolentinus Ponderosus-
Cultured it. (Didn't try this specimen as it was found too close to a roadway)
Posted in Hunting as well.
Thx for any comments
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Workman
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: mushrx1]
#4507570 - 08/07/05 04:18 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've been looking for a culture of this species for a long time. Interested in a trade?
I've heard it is a good shiitake/matsutake substitute but requires long cooking.
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falcon
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: mushrx1]
#4508889 - 08/07/05 11:08 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm interested in a culture or a print.
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mushrx1
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: falcon]
#4510031 - 08/08/05 09:36 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Falcon, Workman, I'll try to section it out and start grain, compost, or whatever. (It's supposedly a white rotter) since this is the first isolation who knows what's in that petri. the transfer looks good, but it would be best to see if this thing fruits, then I"ll know what it is, and I"ll make a couple extra plates (+ prints).
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YidakiMan
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: mushrx1]
#4510949 - 08/08/05 03:53 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can I join the "me too" club?
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Workman
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: mushrx1]
#4511444 - 08/08/05 06:38 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds good, but I bet it will take many months to fruit. It is probably slow like shiitake but worse.
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falcon
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: mushrx1]
#4511846 - 08/08/05 08:29 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey mushrx1,
Does your culture grow quickly? What color is the mycellium?
Here's a couple of things I'd try.
I'd tranfer to grain then lightly supplemented pine sawdust, then bury some of the sawdust blocks in a likely place once it's knitted together by mycellium. I wouldn't count on anything happening with compost, I might try a little on compost just to see what happens. Grain to straw for sure, I'd try.
If you don't have a place to sterilize sawdust, try the pine litter pellets they are heat extruded and this cleans them up somewhat. Add your colonized grain to some soaked pine sawdust pellet and pack it in bags. This only works with species that colonize quickly. It's worth a try though.
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mushrx1
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: falcon]
#4512293 - 08/08/05 09:53 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is what it looks like today. I'll try sawdust/chip block and some others. Thanks for the encouragement, I'm pretty well versed with wood decomposers and lab technique. I think I can figure it out, just might take some time.
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mushrx1
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: mushrx1]
#4512334 - 08/08/05 09:59 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh, by the way that's MEA. the isolate started weakly, but gained vigor, you can almost see it's adaptation to a new substrate/ new metabolism. Mycelia is white, cottony not matted. No rhizomorphs or other organization at this point. grows densely ~2-3 mm/ day, leading edge is wispy aerial fluff
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falcon
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: mushrx1]
#4514980 - 08/09/05 03:54 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice, looks happy.
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falcon
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: mushrx1]
#5048800 - 12/11/05 04:00 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here's some pictures of mushrx1'sNeolentinus ponderosus culture starting to fruit.
The substrate is animal bedding pine shavings mixed with 5% wheat bran and water till just a few drops fell when squeezed. When I made the jars I packed the shaving in lightly and then stuck a pencil through the top of the shaving in the center of the jar and pushed it to the bottom of the jar to create an open channel for easy colonization.
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mattymonkey
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: falcon]
#5048830 - 12/11/05 04:10 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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awesome, nice idea with the pencil... and the sawdust just stayed like that threw the PC? neat idea, may do the same for enoki+hericium..
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falcon
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: mattymonkey]
#5048863 - 12/11/05 04:17 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pretty much, very little distortion, it was shaving though, so they may be more likely to keep their shape than sawdust.
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mushrx1
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: falcon]
#5049336 - 12/11/05 06:29 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just love it when that happens!!
OUtstanding job, Falcon.
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: falcon]
#5049366 - 12/11/05 06:38 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Any finished fruits yet? I would like to see how it looks as a mature mushroom.
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falcon
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No finished fruits yet. I think they will be somewhat small and elongated from what they look like in nature. In pictures at Mykoweb they are more robust.
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falcon
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: mushrx1]
#5050407 - 12/11/05 10:58 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the culture mushrx1, this made me happy .
Very strong culture, when they were growing on the shavings in the jar they started slow and after about 5 weeks I didn't look at them for a few weeks. They were about 1/2 way colonized. When I did look they had start forming lumps that would form fruit bodies. On three out 5 jars they were stuck to the lids and I pulled them off when I openned them. The jar with fruits on it was stuck somewhat, but only a little bit of the shavings were pulled off with the lid.
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falcon
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: falcon]
#5058682 - 12/13/05 05:26 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gills starting to form.
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waixingren
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: falcon]
#5058755 - 12/13/05 05:38 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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excelent. will you be sharing this culture?
--waixingren
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falcon
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Re: Neolentinus ponderosus [Re: waixingren]
#5058984 - 12/13/05 06:25 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes. It may be a few week before I do the transfers.
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