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OfflineMrChampignon
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Trichocerus Peruvians
    #4508490 - 08/07/05 11:20 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I may buy this stuff soon... and so far the informations I've found are very confusing for me... if you have any good, CLEAR site give me a link please or tell me quickly what are the DO and DONT about this cacti, and dosage at dry state... tx for your help shroomers


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: MrChampignon]
    #4508736 - 08/08/05 12:26 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Well my friend I'll give you what I know.

tips.

Mantel state.ask your self these questions they are very important, You'll understand after your trip trust me.
Where are you at in your life? How do you feel? Do you need to open the door to your soul? Once you know for sure what you want then move forward.

What kind.
sanpedro OR T.P?I used T.P and it was hands down exactly what I needed.

what form? The best to me is Powder.

preparation.
There is allot of back and forth on this,but you will find it VERY hard to eat or swallow the powder, it's nasty. So gel-caps would be best, it will take some time but it will be well worth it.

after you take all 40 or 50 pills in a 1 hour span. The come up is VERY warm almost like the best Ecstasy if any you have ever tried. After that you will find it hard to believe what you see. By the end of the night if things go right you will find your inner peace my friend. So much love to you & I hope every thing goes good for you and you find what you are looking for. You should have a friend with you, you will find that this friend and you by the end of the night will learn to see through each others eyes.

I hope this helped you. Much love to you.


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: MrChampignon]
    #4508811 - 08/08/05 12:48 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: Dety]
    #4510538 - 08/08/05 03:16 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

thank you guys


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: thremix]
    #4510558 - 08/08/05 03:22 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

thremix said:
What kind.
sanpedro OR T.P?I used T.P and it was hands down exactly what I needed.

what form? The best to me is Powder.






San Pedro... I'll buy an ounce of ?dry flesh(?)? I'm not sure... it'll be DRY.... and what is the dosage??


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Edited by MrChampignon (08/08/05 03:24 PM)


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: MrChampignon]
    #4510575 - 08/08/05 03:26 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Go for a live plant.You wont regret it.


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: Psiloman]
    #4512562 - 08/09/05 12:53 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

check your PM


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: thremix]
    #4513655 - 08/09/05 09:34 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The PM is reffered to Mr Champignion and not to me i think


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: MrChampignon]
    #4514418 - 08/09/05 02:57 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I highly recommend using live cactus, and preparing it with  Mjshroomer's technique .  I actually did this yesterday.  It was my third successful San Pedro experience using this technique.  We went pretty far out there on about 9 inches of cactus each.

It really is a medicine... and you get what you need, not what you want.  Be prepared for a true psychedelic experience.  It creeps up on you, and then  :eek: :sun: :sun:

Good luck my friend.

P.S.  I've heard terrible things about dried capsules.  They rehydrate in your stomach and turn into an unmanageabe mass of cactus goop.  MJshroomer's chimora tea method is very easy to digest... by the time you're really tripping (3-4 hours after ingestion!) you've done the bulk of the digestion, so you don't have to deal with a queasy stomach while trying to talk to God. :smile:

agian, good luck!


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: Noviseer]
    #4514714 - 08/09/05 04:34 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

but a live one, I heard it will take a year before you get 1 dose... I,m not that patient!


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: MrChampignon]
    #4514987 - 08/09/05 05:57 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

no the gel-caps are good. I thought the same thing ( A bunch of gal caps in my poor stomach?!!!) it's OK trust me. The tea thing would be OK I guess (I never tried it) but you would have to taste it and trust me EVEN IF you THINK you can handle the taste you WONT.


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: thremix]
    #4515321 - 08/09/05 07:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

how about making powder and mix it with honey or tomato juice... anything strong... yes? no?

I don't know the dosage... at dry state how many grams will I have to eat??


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: MrChampignon]
    #4516436 - 08/10/05 12:34 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

No the powder is SUPER strong, try a little 5g in a drink? You will find the gel-caps to be super. I don't know what every one is talking about "you get sick" ingesting 40 or 50 gel-caps


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: MrChampignon]
    #4516907 - 08/10/05 03:23 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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but a live one, I heard it will take a year before you get 1 dose... I,m not that patient!




Just buy a live Trichocerus then.


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: Dety]
    #4517268 - 08/10/05 08:47 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

patience pays off...they grow FAST if you treat them right, real fast.


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: thremix]
    #4517548 - 08/10/05 11:34 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I heard that its more like 15-30 grams of the dried...


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: thremix]
    #4519244 - 08/10/05 08:23 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

man now I'm curious about the horrible taste!!! Looks like your own shit is good as a beef steak compared to this!! I may try a little bit just to see!! lol and go with the GelCap after...


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: MrChampignon]
    #4519309 - 08/10/05 08:51 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The taste issue.

Its a quite prevalent theme in modern users of these plants trying to avoid the taste.A counter argument could be "if one cannot withstand the taste,even acknowledge it for being just the nature of the plant accepting it and going on with his quest,how can he/she expect to withstand the experience"? After all the taste is going to last how much? 10 minutes? Half an hour? The experience is certainly more long lived than that.

I guess people cant simply stomach the simple fact : "No entheogen has won a culinary award and there is a reason for it.If we dont want to offend our taste buds lets stick to normal foodstuff,they are designed after all to taste good"

So,being taught to well cooked food,kind tastes and lots of tasty monosodium glutamate the seeker gelcaps everything.This can slow down absorption.Also the cactus powder will remain exactly that,cactus powder that will turn into a slime when in conctact with stomach juices.Your stomach has STILL to extract it...

Why not try a "negotiation" between the two? Thouroughly boil the cactus in acidic water ,gather the liguids and supplement them by straining the cactus juice from the pulp (look at MJ's Method) and the put them on a baking dish and evaporate in slow oven. You will end up with some plaster like substance.If its sticky ,roll it in small balls and pass it quickly over some flour or even some antacid powder (basic conditions in stomach are reputed to facilitate the absorption of these alkaloids)

Advantages:

1) You will have certainly LESS material to ingest and to handle than with the straigh cactus powder
2)No use for gelcaps and this ridiculous gelcapping business.
3)The goo pieces can be adjusted to any size you are comfortable with swallowing.The coating of flour or antacid will minimize any taste. Thats indeed doable and very efficient if you consider downing 30-50 capsules a viable solution
4)No "extras" in the stomach.No gelcaps to dissolve,no uneeded plant material to digest ,no swelling of plant matter,just an easily dissolved goo in your gastric juices.

Disadvantages:

1)Contrandicted if you have a "cook-o-phobia" of some short,if you dont know what is an acid,or if you have no hands (no hands = no goo ball rolling).

2)It will take some time.On the other hand gelcaping will take some time....




This method is so easy...I wonder why people bother with gelcaping..


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: Psiloman]
    #4520869 - 08/11/05 03:01 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

What do you mean by goo? I tried this and after evaporating in the oven to almost complete dryness there was a brittle solid material. Do you stop reducing somewhere between syrup and this brittle material?


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Re: Trichocerus Peruvians [Re: Letto]
    #4521272 - 08/11/05 07:25 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Oh ,certainly,if you can reach it to the solid material which can be easier handled do it by all means.One could choose to not evaporate it completely so he can have a plaster like substance if maleability is something desired!

Whatever rocks each ones boat.The point is to abolish large plant volums and gelcaps!


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