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Re: Learyfan [Re: Learyfan]
    #4508190 - 08/07/05 08:06 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

No I think he meant because it's telling someone to think for themselves.. so they aren't actually thinking for themselves to think for themselves.


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Re: Learyfan [Re: Learyfan]
    #4508211 - 08/07/05 08:14 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

But of course!! The irony, oh the irony!! :grin:


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Re: Learyfan [Re: Learyfan]
    #4508261 - 08/07/05 08:31 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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No I think he meant because it's telling someone to think for themselves.. so they aren't actually thinking for themselves to think for themselves.




Exactly.

What would you being a mod have to do with that? I think you have a complex.



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Re: Learyfan [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4508327 - 08/07/05 08:48 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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No I think he meant because it's telling someone to think for themselves.. so they aren't actually thinking for themselves to think for themselves.




I wasn't able to fit "Think for yourself in every other situation besides this moment right now in which I'm instructing you to choose 'think for yourself' over 'be a robot'", in my title.



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Exactly.

What would you being a mod have to do with that? I think you have a complex.







I thought that you were insinuating that my position as Pub Moderator precludes me from using that quote because you viewed me as a person in a position of authority.







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Re: Learyfan [Re: Learyfan]
    #4508398 - 08/07/05 09:03 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
No I think he meant because it's telling someone to think for themselves.. so they aren't actually thinking for themselves to think for themselves.




I wasn't able to fit "Think for yourself in every other situation besides this moment right now in which I'm instructing you to choose 'think for yourself' over 'be a robot'", in my title.





Even if you could fit all that, your title would still negate itself. Anytime you instruct people to "think for themselves", it's something of a logical fallacy. Just pointin' that out.

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Re: Learyfan [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4508416 - 08/07/05 09:07 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

It's all semantics either way :grin:


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Re: Learyfan [Re: Shroomism]
    #4508430 - 08/07/05 09:10 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

:confused:

Not really.  If you tell someone to think for themself, and they do, then they are doing YOUR will, which is really not thinking for themself.

This has very little to do with the relationship between thoughts and words (semantics).

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Re: Learyfan [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4508472 - 08/07/05 09:17 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I disagree.. I think that it is only a suggestion, not a command.. and someone can take that thought into consideration, mull over it, analyze the possibilities, and decide for themselves.. hey.. I am going to think for myself.. and question authoritie!

After all, thinking for yourself doesn't mean that you shut yourself off from constructive criticism from others. It just means that in the end, you make your own decisions in your own best interests.


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Re: Learyfan [Re: Shroomism]
    #4508513 - 08/07/05 09:26 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I never said that I think it's a command..... but even as a suggestion it's still a logical fallacy. Think for yourself about that.

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Re: Learyfan [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4508552 - 08/07/05 09:37 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

You are so difficult. i bet you and MS have the biggest "nothing fights".

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Re: Learyfan [Re: Redstorm]
    #4508560 - 08/07/05 09:38 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

What the fuck ever, dude. You can talk to me about relationship shit when/if you get a girlfriend.

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Re: Learyfan [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4508618 - 08/07/05 09:52 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Ok then, no one can ever encourage anyone to think for themselves, since that encouragement negates itself.







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Re: Learyfan [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4508670 - 08/07/05 10:09 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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What the fuck ever, dude. You can talk to me about relationship shit when/if you get a girlfriend.




Ok, how about now?

I've had a gf for 5 years, so I think that makes me eligible.

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Re: Learyfan [Re: Redstorm]
    #4508700 - 08/07/05 10:18 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck listening to your title about thinking for myself, I think for myself not what anyone tells me about thinking for myself.


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Re: Learyfan [Re: Fospher]
    #4508717 - 08/07/05 10:21 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

so in other words... you think for yourself and question authority? :grin:


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Re: Learyfan [Re: Shroomism]
    #4508719 - 08/07/05 10:22 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

:doh:


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Re: Learyfan [Re: Shroomism]
    #4508720 - 08/07/05 10:22 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

But whatever you do, don't tell him to think for himself. It has to be a self-realization or he isn't thinking for himself. :wink:

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Re: Learyfan [Re: Shroomism]
    #4508766 - 08/07/05 10:33 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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so in other words... you think for yourself and question authority? :grin:




In other words I think for myself and question authority by demonstrating refusal of a quote that tells me to do the exact same thing. A'la escaping conformism that consists of deviation with stubborn insubordination.


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Re: Learyfan [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4508961 - 08/07/05 11:28 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

i enjoy his posts
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Re: Learyfan [Re: butterflydawn]
    #4509211 - 08/08/05 12:32 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

How can you truely choose to think for yourself or not since your view is compiled from what you see and hear--all things which are external to yourself. When ever someone "thinks for themselves" they are really just thinking.


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