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InvisibleSkunkhuffer
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Sterilize air before fanning?
    #4503548 - 08/06/05 12:53 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

For those of us who are taking the Fanning route for Fresh Air Exchange, is it a good thing to spray some kind of disinfectant spray (such as Lysol) prior to fanning?  I've searched and searched and cant find a clear cut answer.

I know that after a cake has fully colonized, it is hard for contams to get a foothold, but it obviously can happen.  I've also read that disinfectant sprays can create mutations.

So what I was thinking is:
  1) Spray room (with Lysol) to sterilize air.
  2) Wait for a period of time for air to settle.
  3) Open Fruiting Chamber and FAN AWAY!

Is this bad? Should I be worrying this much about contams during the fanning process?  The room I'm doing this in is pretty much empty, with a hardwood floor. I will definitely be using H2O2 mixed with water in the perilite, but figured if I could safely sterilize the AIR, then I'd like to do that too.

Any advice for a noob who has searched endlessly for a proper answer?

Thanks.

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Re: Sterilize air before fanning? [Re: Skunkhuffer]
    #4503575 - 08/06/05 01:04 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

go buy a hepa filter and then the air in your room will be pretty clean all the time.


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Re: Sterilize air before fanning? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #4503582 - 08/06/05 01:07 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

That's good future advice Lemon, but it doesn't answer my question. :P

I'm broke, so that would be beyond my grasp at this point.


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Re: Sterilize air before fanning? [Re: Skunkhuffer]
    #4503586 - 08/06/05 01:09 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

cakes are pretty contam resistant once colonized so you could jsut fan with no worries but it never hurts to be safe


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Re: Sterilize air before fanning? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #4503608 - 08/06/05 01:15 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Aight. I just wont go crazy with the Lysol.

Advice appreciated.


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Re: Sterilize air before fanning? [Re: Skunkhuffer]
    #4503667 - 08/06/05 01:40 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

First, Lysol is a surface disinfectant, not intended to clean the air. It will be useless to spray the air with lysol.

Second, there is no need to maintain sterility in a growing environment. Massive air exchange while maintaining humidity will prevent contaminants such as trich and cobweb which thrive in still, stale air. I used to run HEPA filters, but I've sent them all to the storage bin, as they seemed to make no difference whatsoever. Air exchange and circulation will prevent contaminants from a growing area. Only the area you spawn in must be kept sterile. a glovebox or flow hood is mandatory. After that, air exchange is the key.
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Re: Sterilize air before fanning? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4504233 - 08/06/05 05:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
First, Lysol is a surface disinfectant, not intended to clean the air.  It will be useless to spray the air with lysol.

Second, there is no need to maintain sterility in a growing environment.  Massive air exchange while maintaining humidity will prevent contaminants such as trich and cobweb which thrive in still, stale air.  I used to run HEPA filters, but I've sent them all to the storage bin, as they seemed to make no difference whatsoever.  Air exchange and circulation will prevent contaminants from a growing area.  Only the area you spawn in must be kept sterile.  a glovebox or flow hood is mandatory.  After that, air exchange is the key.
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Agreed. It is also always a good idea to keep things as clean as possible in and around your grow. There is always a trade off when dealing with FAE and sporeloads understanding some molds may be introduced but the lack of FAE's WILL cause contams to flourish. GL :wink:


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Re: Sterilize air before fanning? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4504712 - 08/06/05 09:06 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
First, Lysol is a surface disinfectant, not intended to clean the air.  It will be useless to spray the air with lysol.

Second, there is no need to maintain sterility in a growing environment.  Massive air exchange while maintaining humidity will prevent contaminants such as trich and cobweb which thrive in still, stale air.  I used to run HEPA filters, but I've sent them all to the storage bin, as they seemed to make no difference whatsoever.  Air exchange and circulation will prevent contaminants from a growing area.  Only the area you spawn in must be kept sterile.  a glovebox or flow hood is mandatory.  After that, air exchange is the key.
RR





:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: - Very well put.

People are lysol crazy 'round here. :grin:  I've never used lysol for anything and never will.


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Re: Sterilize air before fanning? [Re: Skunkhuffer]
    #4506337 - 08/07/05 09:56 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I can honestly say that the Lysol wasn't my idea. I read it in a PF Tek somewhere. It was recommended that you spray the air with Lysol (like crazy) before you innoc. Going with that suggestion, I also figured it would be useful to spray before FAE's. Nice to know it isn't exactly required.

From what you've said, I'm sure it does work a little. However, it doesn't seem like saturating the air with it would provoide "fresh" air for the fruiting stage.


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Re: Sterilize air before fanning? [Re: Skunkhuffer]
    #4507923 - 08/07/05 08:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I stoped buying lysol. at $5 each can I only use it for spawning or cleaning the bins. Rubbing alcohol works great other wise & its cheap


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