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we are in heaven.
    #449483 - 11/06/01 10:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I am not saying this is true or applies to anyone except myself, or even myself...however my friend just finished telling me how his life sucked. and i decided to post. I have seen alot of post sharing simular ideas, but i find it real. Too much of anything can get boring or whatever. Good, bad, life death. I feel our lives right now are on a beautiful planet where we can be free to do whatever we want. we have human interaction, we have friends, we have enemies. There is good, there is bad, etc. Then i think of them i just remember that there is no good without any bad, and vice versa. I am on a vacation it seems, and my mind is resting and learning. i have everything i need, when i die...i dont know what happens but i think my experiance here alone is worth it. I cannot really express how i feel but i feel as though whether it be insanity, sanity, ignorance, truth, whatever...all i can do is smile and love.

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Re: we are in heaven. [Re: tak]
    #449532 - 11/06/01 11:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What are the implications of segregating heaven beyond life? That is, what are the results of telling people that this world is a dirty, diseased, sinful intermediary position between a death-attained heaven and hell? And, what difference would there be, if any, if instead of that belief we did foster the notion that material existance is heaven?

The result is that people dwell upon their pain - just as they 'dwell' upon the Earth. People ball it up inside of them and cling to it because they associate it with existance. Turning the world (and thusly) humanity into a sinful place turns us into a culture of masochists who associate the world with pain and then seek release through the activites of mental supression - drugs, sex, television, cinema, video-games, fantasies and dreams.

The world is neither heaven nor hell, it is superior to both for it can be either.


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Re: we are in heaven. [Re: tak]
    #449546 - 11/06/01 11:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

samsara is nirvana...

old enough to know better
not old enough to care

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Re: we are in heaven. [Re: tak]
    #449910 - 11/07/01 07:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

this is what god told me about heaven:


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Re: we are in heaven. [Re: In(di)go]
    #450459 - 11/07/01 05:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Or as the founder of aikido (a Japanese martial art) said,

"Heaven is where you are standing.
And that is the place to train."


to understand other people….to be aware
to understand animals….to be a decent person
to understand plants….. to be a refined individual
to understand the mushroom…to be enlightened

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