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OfflineTysonTomko
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Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something
    #4494493 - 08/04/05 10:46 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

originally me, Nicky and jen were drinking at my house. Nickys boyfriend Jon (who is my friend) broke up with her like 2 weeks ago and went on vacation. Then he came back for one night, got drunk and got back together with her. He now claims he doesnt remember this and basically told her there not going out or whatever. But he called me to hang out and this is where it all started and most of this happened tonight.

So anyways Jen leaves. Nicky is like crying and wants me to go with her to Jons house. I tell her i really dont want to but shes like crying and shit. so im like look Nicky i will take you but you got to promise that you arent gonna alienate me and just talk to jon all night. she says yea its not a problem at all, your one of my closest friends if u feel awkward at all let me know, etc.

So we go and basically Jon was being an asshole to her all night. So then i go take a piss and i come back and i see the 2 of them talking like away. so i get pissed off and im like God Damnit Nicky what the fuck did i tell you before. Im Leaving now if your coming your coming. And then shes like crying that i yelled at her and is like "im so sorry" and like apoligizing to me. So im basically driving home not saying anything and shes like "please dont be mad at me" and i says to her im not mad at her im just frusterated and angry in general. So then i get to her house and she comes over to give me a hug and start making out with me for like a minute. And then she says shes working all day today and will call me friday and goes inside.

So yea wtf should i make of this? Did she just make out with me cause i yelled at her or something? should i pursue this or no?

Jon has a new girl or whatever so theres really no issue there.

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: TysonTomko]
    #4494500 - 08/04/05 10:48 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: TysonTomko]
    #4494505 - 08/04/05 10:49 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe making out was her way of truly showing you, "She's sorry."  :smirk:

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: TysonTomko]
    #4494570 - 08/04/05 11:07 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Do her on Friday. She wants it. No matter the rhyme or reason, just do it.


Do you really wanna look back and say, damn, I really should have stuck her?

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: TysonTomko]
    #4494597 - 08/04/05 11:14 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

How to be a Decent Person.

Rule #1. Your friend's ex's are off limits.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Phluck]
    #4494612 - 08/04/05 11:16 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Phluck said:
How to be a Decent Person.

Rule #1. Your friend's ex's are off limits.




right.

Also, you had made a thread in physical and mental well being involving a chick named Naomi who you were hooking up with for a bit...how would you feel if your friend Jon hooked up with her?

Always put yourself in someone elses shoes, and treat others the way you would want to be treated.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Liz]
    #4494620 - 08/04/05 11:19 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

The Polyphonic Spree makes me smile.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: PuZuZu]
    #4494636 - 08/04/05 11:22 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

That is bs. If she broke up with him, that woudl be another story. Since he broke up with her, shes fair game. And either way, what kinda friend is gonna grudge you sex with an ex?


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: ChRoNiCk420]
    #4494654 - 08/04/05 11:24 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

you sound like a real good friend :noway:


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: TysonTomko]
    #4494656 - 08/04/05 11:25 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Jon has a new girl or whatever so theres really no issue there.




Just to clarify... has he told you its no issue, or are you assuming its no issue because he has a new girl? Because if you're assuming, well you're going to be in for a suprise when your friend finds out.

Even if people have moved on, they will always still feel a little jealousy when they see their ex's with other people, that's just a fact of life. And if the other people are their best friends, well, that's going to cause some serious problems.

If you think having Jon as a friend is more important than getting a little bit of ass, forget about it, and if Nicky calls you up and wants to go out or something, explain to her that you don't think it's a good idea to go out with your best friend's ex. That may seem like common sense, but you'd be suprised how many guys would lie, or just try to avoid her.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: TysonTomko]
    #4494657 - 08/04/05 11:25 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Chicks are nuts


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: PuZuZu]
    #4494684 - 08/04/05 11:29 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Not sure how to reply to this. Theres somethings Id need to know like how good of friends are you with each and were they serious are you serious about her?

Basically you have to pick and choose your battles. If you and Jon are not best friends and you like her- I say go for it.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: bladerunnerss]
    #4494859 - 08/04/05 12:04 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

You guys need to get rid of this whole jealousy thing. Yea, its a natural human thing, but you can definately get rid of it. Read Heinlein's "For Us, the Living". When you think about it, it just doesn't make sense. If a friend of mine wanted to hook up with an ex of mine, I would certainly give my blessing.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: MOTH]
    #4495164 - 08/04/05 12:59 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe making out was her way of truly showing you, "She's sorry."  :smirk:




probably, just wanted to apologize, but i mean makin out with you, i could see a kiss.. but

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Chicks are nuts




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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: TysonTomko]
    #4495224 - 08/04/05 01:09 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

So, you're the infamous beerweed, huh?

Nice to meet you.

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Phluck]
    #4495281 - 08/04/05 01:27 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Phluck said:
How to be a Decent Person.

Rule #1. Your friend's ex's are off limits.



Since when? Friend's girlfriends are off-limits but where does this "no ex's" rule come into play?


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: mantis]
    #4495344 - 08/04/05 01:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

stick it to her man!    :bananabang:


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: SerioOria]
    #4495370 - 08/04/05 01:50 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Chicks are nuts




agreed



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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: mantis]
    #4495420 - 08/04/05 02:00 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Hell yeah man, hook it up!

Why not?


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: TysonTomko]
    #4495428 - 08/04/05 02:02 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

making out =! 'hooking up'


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: ChRoNiCk420]
    #4495445 - 08/04/05 02:06 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

When you think about it, it just doesn't make sense. If a friend of mine wanted to hook up with an ex of mine, I would certainly give my blessing.

Lots of emotions don't make sense. But simply realizing that fact doesn't make you immune to them.

There are probably circumstances where it's okay, but if it was a really serious relationship, or if they broke up recently, then it's definitely going to cause some tension, even if you think you're above normal human emotions.

Did the guy not say that they just broke up?


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: CptnGarden]
    #4495566 - 08/04/05 02:34 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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SerioOria said:

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Chicks are nuts




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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: TysonTomko]
    #4495731 - 08/04/05 03:13 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

See what she wants. Then happen to mention it to Jon, if he's alright with it, fine, if not, no.Also, make sure she isn't doing this to get back at jon. And make sure she's doing this because she wants to go out with you, not because she's sad and wants some one to pull around.

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: blackroselove]
    #4495764 - 08/04/05 03:24 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I recently beat the shit out of my best friend that I've known for forever. Bashed his head into the curb, fucked up his jaw. Why? Because I found out that he tried to get on my girl when he got out of jail, when my girl and I were broken up for a couple weeks. He just tried, nothing happened out of it btw. This is the kid that took time for me and went to jail for 2.5 months because he put down a fake name on the report. I have letters the size of a novel that he sent back from county. But once he did what he did, none of it mattered.

Bros/Hos, dont fuck with your friends ex/partners or you'll get retaliation to the max. Once you lose trust in a friendship, there's nothing left.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Phluck]
    #4495855 - 08/04/05 03:54 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Phluck said:
How to be a Decent Person.

Rule #1. Your friend's ex's are off limits.




Only if you get caught. And by then it's too late anyway.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Phluck]
    #4495862 - 08/04/05 03:56 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Jon has a new girl or whatever so theres really no issue there.




Just to clarify... has he told you its no issue, or are you assuming its no issue because he has a new girl? Because if you're assuming, well you're going to be in for a suprise when your friend finds out.

Even if people have moved on, they will always still feel a little jealousy when they see their ex's with other people, that's just a fact of life. And if the other people are their best friends, well, that's going to cause some serious problems.

If you think having Jon as a friend is more important than getting a little bit of ass, forget about it, and if Nicky calls you up and wants to go out or something, explain to her that you don't think it's a good idea to go out with your best friend's ex. That may seem like common sense, but you'd be suprised how many guys would lie, or just try to avoid her.




Well let me clarify a few things. Jon and Nicky went out for about 2 weeks. Plus he then dumped her. Besides that theres the fact That i have known Nicky for several years and Jon knew her for about a month and a half.

I would consider the both of them to be in my top 5 best friends.

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4496016 - 08/04/05 04:51 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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So, you're the infamous beerweed, huh? 

Nice to meet you.




Is this really beerweed?


If it is beerweed it's a god damn honor to finally meet you. :grin:


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: blackroselove]
    #4496088 - 08/04/05 05:25 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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See what she wants. Then happen to mention it to Jon, if he's alright with it, fine, if not, no.Also, make sure she isn't doing this to get back at jon. And make sure she's doing this because she wants to go out with you, not because she's sad and wants some one to pull around.

Blackie:flaming:




I totally agree. This chick is just setting up trouble with you and Jon. Even if you all are bestfriends. Or the chick thinks she can get away with it.

Chicks are nuts. I'm ashamed with my gender sometimes but I just tell myself it isn't all curable and bad. I just try to be a simple, easy going, laidback person myself and try to make a good role model.  :mushroom2:


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: PuZuZu]
    #4496148 - 08/04/05 05:52 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

umm, your friend dumped her...he obviously doesn't have any feelings for her anymore. she's yours if thats what you want, and she wants.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #4496164 - 08/04/05 06:00 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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    #4496176 - 08/04/05 06:04 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4496185 - 08/04/05 06:06 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I hope so.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4496271 - 08/04/05 06:24 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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drgonz said:
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Fospher said:
I recently beat the shit out of my best friend that I've known for forever. Bashed his head into the curb, fucked up his jaw. Why? Because I found out that he tried to get on my girl when he got out of jail, when my girl and I were broken up for a couple weeks. He just tried, nothing happened out of it btw. This is the kid that took time for me and went to jail for 2.5 months because he put down a fake name on the report. I have letters the size of a novel that he sent back from county. But once he did what he did, none of it mattered.

Bros/Hos, dont fuck with your friends ex/partners or you'll get retaliation to the max. Once you lose trust in a friendship, there's nothing left.




damn, do u beat your girlfriends too?




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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: TysonTomko]
    #4496492 - 08/04/05 07:17 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

If it was some trick, it wouldnt have happened. How would you feel if your best friend hit on your long-time GF behind your back?

I dont really care for explaining myself, all Im saying is that trust is all you really have when it comes to friendships and relationships. Dont lose it.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Fospher]
    #4496599 - 08/04/05 07:34 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

And it wasnt an issue over a chick, it was an issue of trust and respect. I guess I was too naive to trust someone 100%.


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    #4496622 - 08/04/05 07:37 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4496676 - 08/04/05 07:45 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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You coulda just said " what the fuck dude"




HAHAHA, because that will solve everything

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: TysonTomko]
    #4496755 - 08/04/05 08:02 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

An assbeating teaches a valuable lesson, saying 'wtf, dude' and doing nothing makes you a bitch.

I did ask him why he did what he did before I beat his ass. He denied it, but I know him in and out, I know when he lies, because he does it a lot. Just didnt think he'd do it to me. Like I said, I was too naive to trust him all the way. And when he started lying, I beat him down.

See, when you get your ass kicked, you think: "Hmm, why did this happen? Id rather have this not happen again." When someone says their disappointment, you ignore it.

Anyway, you sound like a real idiot whose trying to get me to get mad or something by making threats over the internet. Im not getting mad at someone possibly thousands of miles away, but you obviously are.

Control yourself.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4496781 - 08/04/05 08:07 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

To the point of the original post, if she was drunk... definatly don't take it as anything special, she probably just did it because she knew it would make you feel better. (This is how a girls mind works sometimes, the world will never know why). This is also entirely possible if she was sober too, I'd check with her before checking with him.


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    #4496802 - 08/04/05 08:12 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Fospher]
    #4497044 - 08/04/05 09:22 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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And it wasnt an issue over a chick, it was an issue of trust and respect. I guess I was too naive to trust someone 100%.




How is it trust? It's some girl you're broken up with. I know when I break up with a girl, someone could throw her to the wolves for all I care. If a friend hooked up with her, I doubt I'd care, especially to the extent of doing severe damage to a close altruistic friend.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Ravus]
    #4498067 - 08/05/05 12:29 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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And it wasnt an issue over a chick, it was an issue of trust and respect. I guess I was too naive to trust someone 100%.




How is it trust? It's some girl you're broken up with. I know when I break up with a girl, someone could throw her to the wolves for all I care. If a friend hooked up with her, I doubt I'd care, especially to the extent of doing severe damage to a close altruistic friend.




You wouldnt, I would. I take values and respect and brotherhood to a level most people dont. I would take a bullet for any of my close friends or family, if they got shit with someone, means I would do too. I've been in gangfights(even though Im not a gangmember) because of stupid things my friends did, but nontheless I would back them so they wouldnt get fucked up/killed.

Dont mean to sound cocky - but fuck with me once and get fucked, no one crosses me. I treat people just as I expect them to treat me - you dont get respect unless it's given out.

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Fospher]
    #4498249 - 08/05/05 01:00 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Since you gave permission to ridicule you.

You don't take any psychedelic drugs, do you? I can't imagine someone who has tripped on lsd or mushrooms being such an asshole over a such a stupid thing. You are talking about one of your best friends, someone who even just did jail time for you, and you beat him up over a fuckin girl you weren't even with?

I understand the value of trust, but how does going for your ex break trust? It's fucked up that he lied about it, but how does that merit a beating? You're talking about brotherhood and friendship, I don't think you know about these things. If my friend verbally expressed disappointment in me for something, it would have a great effect and I would be sincerely sorry for w/e it was about. If my friend beat the shit out of me for some stupid shit like that, I would think, "Wow, what an asshole. I don't want to be friends with this person anymore. Let me do that same thing again, just to piss them off" You really think violence teaches a lesson? Did your parents beat you?


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: ChRoNiCk420]
    #4498382 - 08/05/05 01:17 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Since you gave permission to ridicule you.

You don't take any psychedelic drugs, do you? I can't imagine someone who has tripped on lsd or mushrooms being such an asshole over a such a stupid thing. You are talking about one of your best friends, someone who even just did jail time for you, and you beat him up over a fuckin girl you weren't even with?

I understand the value of trust, but how does going for your ex break trust? It's fucked up that he lied about it, but how does that merit a beating? You're talking about brotherhood and friendship, I don't think you know about these things. If my friend verbally expressed disappointment in me for something, it would have a great effect and I would be sincerely sorry for w/e it was about. If my friend beat the shit out of me for some stupid shit like that, I would think, "Wow, what an asshole. I don't want to be friends with this person anymore. Let me do that same thing again, just to piss them off" You really think violence teaches a lesson? Did your parents beat you?




This is the girl of one and a half years, we break up sometimes then get back together. He knew that it wasnt permanent, and did the lowest thing you can do to another friend. How does that not equate to an ass-beating?

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If my friend beat the shit out of me for some stupid shit like that, I would think, "Wow, what an asshole. I don't want to be friends with this person anymore.




No shit, you just got beat down, cant go buddy buddy after that can you.

Violence can sometimes be the only solution to a potential problem. Case in point:

One time someone said something really hurtful to my girlfriend. So instead of saying anything, I decked the guy in the face. Should I have said: "Excuse me, you shouldnt have said that, those things are her private affairs"

I talk about brotherhood because I did have a bad childhood and grew up in some pretty rough areas. I use psychedelics to figure out errors in my ways, because hallucinogens are very effective guidance. Im still just a kid in a way, Im 18, but I feel that I experienced more than most people have around me. Tripped on L about 15 times, Mushrooms about 60 or 70, 3 times on mescaline. Why, should psychedelics make me passive about my life?


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: ChRoNiCk420]
    #4498412 - 08/05/05 01:21 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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You don't take any psychedelic drugs, do you? I can't imagine someone who has tripped on lsd or mushrooms being such an asshole over a such a stupid thing.




Are you saying Love and Trust are stupid things?

The Hells Angels took LSD too. Mushrooms and LSD aren't some anti-asshole medication. They don't radically change your behavior by implanting love, peace, and understanding into your head. Psychedelics are a tool that can be used and manipulated in many different ways, for many different purposes.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #4498635 - 08/05/05 02:03 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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They don't radically change your behavior by implanting love, peace, and understanding into your head.




Speak for yourself.

Fospher, you didn't mention that you guys break up and get back sometimes, that changes things somewhat. I don't know what I would do in this situation, but I can't see myself beating up a friend over anything. I'm not going to get into it right now, but due to insights I gained through psychedelics, nothing ever makes me angry like that.

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: ChRoNiCk420]
    #4498648 - 08/05/05 02:07 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I'm a big fan of the "fuck it" mentality. I don't care enough about most shit to want to hurt anyone. Someone tries to hurt me, I'll damn well try to hurt them right back, but honestly shit doesn't upset me.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Fospher]
    #4498656 - 08/05/05 02:09 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

If I was him I'd come back, mace you til you were blind, and beat you with a bat.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4498659 - 08/05/05 02:10 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Or bat you until you were blind, and beat you with a mace.


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    #4498667 - 08/05/05 02:12 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

That doesn't work as well.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4498670 - 08/05/05 02:12 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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If I was him I'd come back, mace you til you were blind, and beat you with a bat.




Hahaha. Mace is for pigs and girls.

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Fospher]
    #4498673 - 08/05/05 02:12 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

That's not true at all, a mace is much better weapon.


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    #4498677 - 08/05/05 02:13 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4498699 - 08/05/05 02:19 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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and people who want to beat up blinded assholes.




Shut up, bitch! I thought Id share personal experience to answer the guy's question. Dont like it, fuck off, want to judge what I did, then give me structured criticizm not petty ignorant comments.


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    #4498706 - 08/05/05 02:21 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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What the fuck are you talking about? I'm saying if someone did that to me I'd mace the shit out of them and beat their ass when they're blinding laying on the ground.


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    #4498707 - 08/05/05 02:22 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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They don't radically change your behavior by implanting love, peace, and understanding into your head.




Speak for yourself.

Fospher, you didn't mention that you guys break up and get back sometimes, that changes things somewhat. I don't know what I would do in this situation, but I can't see myself beating up a friend over anything. I'm not going to get into it right now, but due to insights I gained through psychedelics, nothing ever makes me angry like that.

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Cool, you would take a passive approach to it, I wouldnt. You dont know what you would do in this situation, yet you're judging me?


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    #4498708 - 08/05/05 02:22 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like you need to take some reading comprehensive classes or some shit.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4498713 - 08/05/05 02:25 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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:bitch:




What the fuck are you talking about? I'm saying if someone did that to me I'd mace the shit out of them and beat their ass when they're blinding laying on the ground.




And thats why you are a sally bitch! Like I said, guys who use mace to win fights are pusssiies!

:wink: :grin: :thumbup:

If someone did that to you? Did what to you? Beat your ass for being a backstabbing friend? Read up before you open your mouth


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    #4498717 - 08/05/05 02:26 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Sure, why not. If someone kicks my ass I'm going to come back and mace the shit out of them.


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    #4498721 - 08/05/05 02:27 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I'd mace them first, pre-emptive strikes are the way to go.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: ChRoNiCk420]
    #4498722 - 08/05/05 02:28 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Thats what everyone says, yet whenever I bring up a clear example where violence is the solution they say they dont know what they would do (which would be nothing) but wouldnt have resorted to violence. People need to realize that violence is a natural process, you cant avoid it just like you cant avoid any other human instinct.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4498726 - 08/05/05 02:30 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Sure, why not. If someone kicks my ass I'm going to come back and mace the shit out of them.




Take the nonviolent way, but sucker punch when you're being fought, huh?

Not hypocritical at all...


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    #4498731 - 08/05/05 02:32 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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I'd mace them first, pre-emptive strikes are the way to go.




That's what I'm saying.

Step 1: Unload half can of mace into their eyes
Step 2: Punch them in the neck
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    #4498733 - 08/05/05 02:33 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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    #4498748 - 08/05/05 02:37 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Fighting dirty is the best.




Welll, whatver. My point here is stated with no one to retort it, but thanks for being a bunch of hostile hypocritical assholes anyway.

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Fospher]
    #4498776 - 08/05/05 02:48 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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People need to realize that violence is a natural process, you cant avoid it just like you cant avoid any other human instinct.




That is definately not true. Read "For Us, The Living" by Robert Heinlein.

Think about it. Human instincts were developed a long time ago. With the changing world, should we not change as well? If you like violence and jealousy, fine. If you don't you can definately condition yourself to not need these types of things.

Did beating him up make you happy? Did it make him happy? Did it make your girl happy? What did you gain? From what I can tell, you lost something. A friend who you had previously considered one of your best.

Here's something to think about. Your friend denies that he tried to do this. You say you know he is lying, but can you think of any conceivable reason that your "best" friend would do something like this to you and lie about it? It all boils down to: who do you trust more? Your boy or your girl? I know of one situation where a friend of mines g/f told him that his best friend tried to hook up with her. It was not true, but he believed her nonetheless, and went through some problems with his friend. He was going out with this girl for a long while, and completely trusted her. Why did she lie? I don't know. I don't understand girls. I would trust my best friend who I knew for forever and just went to jail for me's word over my girlfriend's(specially semi ex) word any day.


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    #4498807 - 08/05/05 03:05 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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People need to realize that violence is a natural process, you cant avoid it just like you cant avoid any other human instinct.




That is definately not true. Read "For Us, The Living" by Robert Heinlein.

Think about it. Human instincts were developed a long time ago. With the changing world, should we not change as well? If you like violence and jealousy, fine. If you don't you can definately condition yourself to not need these types of things.

Did beating him up make you happy? Did it make him happy? Did it make your girl happy? What did you gain? From what I can tell, you lost something. A friend who you had previously considered one of your best.

Here's something to think about. Your friend denies that he tried to do this. You say you know he is lying, but can you think of any conceivable reason that your "best" friend would do something like this to you and lie about it? It all boils down to: who do you trust more? Your boy or your girl? I know of one situation where a friend of mines g/f told him that his best friend tried to hook up with her. It was not true, but he believed her nonetheless, and went through some problems with his friend. He was going out with this girl for a long while, and completely trusted her. Why did she lie? I don't know. I don't understand girls. I would trust my best friend who I knew for forever and just went to jail for me's word over my girlfriend's(specially semi ex) word any day.




Ok, to put it short, I know he lied. My other boy knew it for a fact and so did everyone else, so just take that one as a given. And I definetly lost someone. Maybe I gained a lesson.

You can condition yourself, but it's nearly impossible to condition your enviroment without the enviroment conditioning you.

You keep telling me that there was an alternative, yet not presenting it. So out with it, what is it


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    #4498844 - 08/05/05 03:36 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

You could have shot him in the face. That's an alternative.


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    #4498854 - 08/05/05 03:42 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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    #4498880 - 08/05/05 04:29 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

"One other thing though...it sounds like she might purposefully be trying to sleep with her ex's good friend, for revenge reasons or something. If that's the case...I wouldn't do it"

that is exactly what i am thinking.  If she does call and wants to hang out, its probably just to have something to throw in his face.  Women are manipulative and abusive like that.  I wouldn't do it personally because I agree with phluck that friend's ex's are off-limits. On top of that it may be that shes going for revenge, which means shes going to try to use you to hurt him.. which would be all bad.  You dont want to be some dumb cunt's pawn.  :wink:

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    #4499244 - 08/05/05 09:27 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: ChRoNiCk420]
    #4501143 - 08/05/05 06:18 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Gandhi said:
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It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.



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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #4502882 - 08/06/05 02:00 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

you have a fucking awesome avatar :mushroom2:


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: ChRoNiCk420]
    #4502991 - 08/06/05 02:22 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks!  :grin:

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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4503156 - 08/06/05 03:28 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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drgonz said:
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Fospher said:
Im still just a kid in a way, Im 18




That about sums it up right there....

You should have just hacked the guy's head off with a butterknife. It would have made you feel warm inside...




Sums up what Im sorry? My age? Or the fact that youre trying to nitpick at small things to somehow belittle me?

Get off your high horse fuckface, your argument's going nowhere.


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Re: Hooked up with a girl last night but dont know if was sympathy or something [Re: Fospher]
    #4503286 - 08/06/05 07:38 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

So back to topic, Tyson, whatever happened with this whole situation.


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