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Offlinediabla
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sitting poo?
    #4494126 - 08/04/05 10:09 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i bought some poo last week from my local agway in hopes that i would have time to pasturize that night. it's been a week and the bag of poo is still sitting my living room, do you guys think it is still ok?
i got some shellfish compost too with lobster shells, oyster shells, and some other shellfish reminants. since chiton is naturally occuring in mushrooms and shellfish do you think this will benefit colonization/fruiting???


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: diabla]
    #4494140 - 08/04/05 10:17 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Bought some poo? Like a bag of cheap cow poo for the store? Yeah its ok to use on plants :shrug: I sure wouldnt waste my time and spawn on it...it doesnt have much going for it so you can store it as long as you want before pasteurizing, no mold will want it that much.

I dont think the shellfish would be benificial to mycelium.


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4494473 - 08/04/05 12:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Try finding a horse farm, farmers usualy have an excess of it, just tell them you are trying to make some organic fertilizer. The really old stuff from last year is the best, so to answer the time question, sitting around doesn't do anything to the dung. I didn't even know you could "buy" that shit. (no pun intended).

P.S. make sure to bring some 5g buckets and a shovel.

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Re: sitting poo? [Re: Cheesekiller]
    #4495330 - 08/04/05 03:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

the only reason i bought some is because it was packaged right there at the agway farm


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: diabla]
    #4495375 - 08/04/05 03:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbdown: on both those products.


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: diabla]
    #4495399 - 08/04/05 03:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Contrary to popular opinion, AgWay and other farm-stores that are really in farm country can have some great compost and manure. I know that the local one has HUGE mounds of horse and cow manure outside, aging. Farmers can bring it for free and get straw at a reduced price, then AgWay sells it by the sq.yd. or the bag. The best is cow manure that you've dried on a tarp in the hot sun mixed with straw.


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4495424 - 08/04/05 04:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It is COW MANURE  :thumbdown: H/poo is far far far better. :thumbup:

Bagged cow manure products set in piles rotting, the piles are not turned, so it is NOT COMPOSTED. Most are sprayed with both fungicides & insecticides - to keep the smell, bugs & fungi growth down.


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: agar]
    #4495435 - 08/04/05 04:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

imo, Cow manure is much better than horse manure.

Cows eat grass. Grass has tryptophan and triptamines.

Horses eat straw. Straw has little compounds other than the glucose-based fibers.


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Edited by MagicalMystery (08/04/05 04:05 PM)


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4495722 - 08/04/05 05:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalMystery said:
imo, Cow manure is much better than horse manure.

Cows eat grass. Grass has tryptophan and triptamines.

Horses eat straw. Straw has little compounds other than the glucose-based fibers.




where did you get this info.?
straw is used for bedding, horses won't eat it unless they are starving.
my horses are so spoiled on alfalfa/clover pasture, they think straw isn't worth shitting on. :smile:


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: deanofmean]
    #4495806 - 08/04/05 05:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I need a friend who owns horses. LOL


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4495909 - 08/04/05 06:14 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalMystery said:
imo, Cow manure is much better than horse manure.

Cows eat grass. Grass has tryptophan and triptamines.

Horses eat straw. Straw has little compounds other than the glucose-based fibers.




Then put up some flushes that compare to agars. I'd be impressed if you can even put up flushes on cow manure that compare with mine.



I have yet to see cow poo perform that well, and I would HIGHLY doubt their any more potent at all. By all means though, I love to see decent flushes.

Horses eat straw? WTF? I'm glad you dont own a horse. Horses are grazing animals and forage feed is necessary for the proper functioning of their digestive system, as it is their most natural diet:

* Apples - they are relished by all horses
* Barley - this should be boiled or soaked for at least two hours before feeding as it swells when wet, which prevents it swelling in the horses stomach which can cause problems. It can be fed dry if rolled and crushed first
* Bran - is easily digested
* Chaff - adds bulk to food and prevents the horse from bolting down its good too quickly
* Cod Liver Oil - is a useful supplement to help build up resistance to disease
* Eggs - these are a good source of protein and one or two fed daily can be useful to a hard-working horse
* Horse nuts or mixes - these are specially prepared foods, comprising many of the basic feeds, there are different types designed to meet the nutritional needs of various horses with different exercising routines
* Linseed - is high in protein and only a handful should be fed with a feed. It is poisonous raw so MUST be cooked first
* Maize - this should be flaked and cooked to make it easier to digest
* Molichaff or Mollichop - is a mixture of chaff and molasses, used to add bulk to the food and the molasses makes it more appetising
* Oats - they are easily digested if fed crushed, rolled or cooked. They are a high energy food and excessive feeding of oats can cause exuberance in some horses
* Root vegetables - such as beetroot, carrots, parsnips, swedes and turnips can be fed but in small quantities. They should be cut into strips, rather than round pieces as they can become lodged in the throat
* Salt - fed in small quantities in the feed helps to aid digestion
* Seaweed - is good for young horses

Besides what was already said.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
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Re: sitting poo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4496008 - 08/04/05 06:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

:owned:

:poopbanana:


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4496044 - 08/04/05 07:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

LOL, cows have multiple stomachs & digest that grass into shit soup.

Shit soup doesn't contain enough plant fiber for fungi to thrive on.



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Re: sitting poo? [Re: agar]
    #4496066 - 08/04/05 07:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Mix it with straw. IF you want fiber, why use any manure at all? Why not just use straw and other cellulose/lignin sources?


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4496163 - 08/04/05 08:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

horses also like crab apples, blackberries and will eat all the maple leaves they can reach.

last fall i saw some blackbirds getting drunk on fallin crab apples.
that was some funny shit :grin:


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4496968 - 08/04/05 11:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalMystery said:
Mix it with straw. IF you want fiber, why use any manure at all? Why not just use straw and other cellulose/lignin sources?




Ok, I see you just dont get it. Nevermind.

Edit..I will say though, once again, it is a matter of balance and perfection. Horse poo is the perfect texture and nutes for mushrooms. You cant feed a person all fiber, all meat, or all sugar and expect it to do well. More food doesnt mean better, it means more food, shrooms can only digest so much, and certain things. We use horse poo because you cant get the consistant results that I posted any easier way.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


Edited by scatmanrav (08/05/05 12:12 AM)


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4497201 - 08/05/05 12:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalMystery said:
Mix it with straw. IF you want fiber, why use any manure at all? Why not just use straw and other cellulose/lignin sources?




straw is a fairly decent substrate for oysters, but doesn't deliver much potency to ps. species.


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: deanofmean]
    #4498083 - 08/05/05 02:32 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

if cows poop contains all that nutes , that's prob why its more pron to contamination.


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Re: sitting poo? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4498185 - 08/05/05 02:50 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Their is nothing to get. I use cow manure and straw and get great flushes. I don't have a camera now so I can't really prove it to you, but I think it would be foolish of me to lie. If you can show me compositions of all chemicals in both substances and conclusively show me how horse manure is more preferable than cow manure, I'll "get" it. What I don't get is "Take my word". I've tried horse manure and I've tried cow manure. I was not that pleased with horse manure. Ask Magash what he thinks.


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From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
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Re: sitting poo? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4498418 - 08/05/05 03:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Why should I ask someone else how they think, I know how I think, and I know what things are capable of, and where its limits lie. Do whatever works for you, but dont expect someone not to contradict you every time you say it, because your in the minority. And I never asked anyone to take my word for it...I posted pictures to let people decide for themselves, they dont need to take my word for it, its right there, in hundreds of pictures of my own and others.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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