Home | Community | Message Board


SoulSpeciosa Kratom
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop for: ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, HEPA Filter, Vermiculite

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
OfflineSquidfingers
Stranger
Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 33
Last seen: 11 years, 2 months
A few easy cake questions
    #4490990 - 08/03/05 07:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

It's my first grow and I have about 5 1/2 pint BRF jars that are near to birthing (4 B+ and a GT) that were inoculated 07/11. There are some spots on the bottom a little bigger than a quarter that have still have yet to colonize and are a little slow in coming.

Anyhoot, I have a couple of questions that I haven't found the answer to yet and I reeeally don't want to screw this up since I'm so close.  :smile:


1) Would you suggest dunking when I birth them?

2) When I decide to dunk them, what do I dunk them in?  I don't have
  any pint jars but I do have some quarts. Do I have to PC the
  container I'm using to dunk them?

3) I want to be as sterile as possible so I'm probably going to use
  some H2O2 but I don't know a good way to measure out the right 
  amount. Is a capful per 2 cups of water about right?

4) Would double end casing my first cakes be good also? What is good
  to set my cake on when double end casing... something that I can
  find locally, like at Walmart? Buy some more jar lids?

5) I'm using the PF Tek. Does that top layer of verm serve any
  purpose after I take the cakes out of the jar? Can I just scrape
  it off?

6) When is it good to roll cakes? Anytime after dunking them? What
  kind of sterility techniques do I need to use when rolling if any?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinelemon_lw
Stranger
 Arcade Champion: Rotation

Registered: 10/18/04
Posts: 3,622
Loc: That Way
Last seen: 9 years, 2 months
Re: A few easy cake questions [Re: Squidfingers]
    #4491037 - 08/03/05 07:30 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

flip your jars upside down and give a slight tap to seperate the substrate from the jar to allow for better air exchange, or hold the jar upside down over a hepa filter and do a forced air exchange.

1.yes dunk with a 10% peroxide solution 90% water
dont forget to cold shock
2.keep it clean but no real need to pc

3.already told you the ratio so now jsut figure it out.

4. yes double end case. you could use some aluminum foil to put it on, but would suggest some jar lids.

5. no purpose of the verm layer after its colonized, yes.

6. yes roll after dunking, you can pc the verm to sterelize it but many people use it straight out of the bag.

and a final note after your cakes are colonized on the outside wait about a week before birthing. and dunk for 12-24 hours.


--------------------
In the belly of the Leviathan, one can either despair and perish, or be cheerful and persevere.-Dean Koontz


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSquidfingers
Stranger
Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 33
Last seen: 11 years, 2 months
Re: A few easy cake questions [Re: Squidfingers]
    #4491448 - 08/03/05 09:15 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, didn't think about turning them upside down for air exchange. Also didn't know cold shocking jars helped any. So I dunk it and throw it in the fridge at the same time for 12 hours?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinecoda
Banjo Goiter
Male

Registered: 03/20/01
Posts: 8,634
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Trusted Cultivator
Re: A few easy cake questions [Re: Squidfingers]
    #4491464 - 08/03/05 09:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i dunno, but ive read that cold shocking doesnt do shit for cubes. I dunk my cakes @ room temp in a closet.


--------------------
To get really high is to forget yourself. And to forget yourself is to see everything else. And to see everything else is to become an understanding molecule in evolution, a conscious tool of the universe. And I think every human being should be a conscious tool of the universe. . . .

-JG



Don't fuck with the laughing jesus.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineHeinous_Anus
S.D.M.F.

Registered: 08/03/05
Posts: 310
Last seen: 11 years, 3 months
Re: A few easy cake questions [Re: coda]
    #4491483 - 08/03/05 09:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I've seen some growers on here, that dunk them and have them in the fridge at the same time.

I know that the cold does initiate the pinning, as well as the dunking adds moisture. So, I would say thats a good idea.

Correct me if I'm wrong though...


--------------------


I didn't go to college. I went to Ozzy Osbourne University. - Zakk Wylde


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSquidfingers
Stranger
Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 33
Last seen: 11 years, 2 months
Re: A few easy cake questions [Re: Squidfingers]
    #4500686 - 08/05/05 05:57 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Well, since the bottoms are taking a while to colonize I was thinking of keeping my jars upside down in my TiT so it could keep the cake away from the glass and give the bottom air. However, I thought that if I kept the jars upside down with the lid on the bottom, then the CO2 wouldn't have anywhere to escape from. I ended up putting some wire shelves in there and putting the jars upside down on them.

Will the CO2 be able to escape from the lids if the jars are upside down? This sound like a decent fix for the problem or am I being too paranoid?

Also if there's too much water content in the jar, could that make them take longer to colonize? I just see some drops of water rolling around when I tap the jars.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleFooManM
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/02/05
Posts: 8,792
Loc: Earth Flag
Trusted Cultivator
Re: A few easy cake questions [Re: Squidfingers]
    #4500782 - 08/05/05 06:30 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

CO2 is a gas. It will escape easily, like when you fart sitting down and it still manages to escape. The last little bit of jar always takes the longest to colonize, but it will. Patience grasshopper, patience.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibledoubledutch
Morado PR

Registered: 07/19/05
Posts: 266
Loc: Puerto Rico
Re: A few easy cake questions [Re: FooMan]
    #4502304 - 08/06/05 01:50 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

FooManShroom said:
It will escape easily, like when you fart sitting down and it still manages to escape.




Beautiful.  :thumbup:


--------------------
"A delightful, wholesome experience for the family." - Desson Thomson, THE WASHINGTON POST

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5481456

omfg~dutch!


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblesrgtm1a
Stranger
 User Gallery
Registered: 02/19/05
Posts: 2,625
Re: A few easy cake questions [Re: Heinous_Anus]
    #4503298 - 08/06/05 09:56 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Heinous_Anus said:
Well, I've seen some growers on here, that dunk them and have them in the fridge at the same time.

I know that the cold does initiate the pinning, as well as the dunking adds moisture. So, I would say that's a good idea.

Correct me if I'm wrong though...




Correcting you. A 10 degree drop in temp helps to initiate pinning...anything more than that is not good. Dunk at room temp 70F, there is your 10 deg drop.

A lot of people do dunk in the fridge and, for what reason, I don't know.

Cold shocking is used for certain gourmet mushrooms. Dunking cubies will only delay pinning times by a few days. It has no positive attributes to it. So if you got a few days you want to kill before pinning, then cold shock. Otherwise, all you are doing is slowing your growth time.

People have told me their yield is way better after cold shocking, but that is bullshit. Most cubie strains come from tropical/subtropical climates where the temp never gets to where a fridge would.

this was all started from people misreading and then spreading misinformation. Someone read somewhere about cold shocking gourmet and then it became the same rule for cubensis by spreading misinformation...that is not the case.

until you do a side by side grow of cakes that were dunked at room temp and cakes that were dunked in the fridge, you will not be able to see the difference. I have done this. The room temp cakes not only pinned faster, but also had a better yield. growth time of the fridge dunked cakes were 3 days slower with less of a yield.


Edited by srgtm1a (08/06/05 10:03 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSquidfingers
Stranger
Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 33
Last seen: 11 years, 2 months
Re: A few easy cake questions [Re: srgtm1a]
    #4504105 - 08/06/05 05:06 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

srgtm1a said:

Dunking cubies will only delay pinning times by a few days. It has no positive attributes to it.





Do you mean cold shocking cubes/dunking in the fridge is a bad idea? I had planned on dunking/rolling/double end casing my jars.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblesrgtm1a
Stranger
 User Gallery
Registered: 02/19/05
Posts: 2,625
Re: A few easy cake questions [Re: Squidfingers]
    #4504625 - 08/06/05 08:24 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

yeah...didn't type that correctly...you want to dunk at room temp, then roll...don't dunk in the fridge. sorry.

basically do everything you planned on doing, just no fridge.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Amazon Shop for: ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, HEPA Filter, Vermiculite

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Re: Easy cake question Hippie3 851 8 05/14/00 11:15 PM
by Anonymous
* quick cake question danlennon3 648 11 02/18/03 02:43 AM
by d1giPhux
* do i have to put my dunked cakes in fridge? DeadPhan 916 3 05/14/09 12:47 PM
by Epilson Lyrae
* After 30 mins, my cakes will have been dunked for 24 hours.. should I crumble and add blood meal? Alprazolom 1,378 8 10/23/06 12:59 PM
by Quake3
* PESH cake question... Trivium 346 4 01/29/09 04:11 PM
by Trivium
* Cake blueing - should I dunk? cloakedcrow 1,385 4 05/21/07 06:43 AM
by Blutjager
* "Easy Caking Method" MrSleep 626 3 05/28/03 07:43 PM
by FallenShroom
* putting cakes in fridge Ravinoff 1,349 13 07/08/10 08:12 PM
by SomeGuy

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Magash, Shroomism, george castanza, Prisoner#1, RogerRabbit, Citric, total, FooMan, 13shrooms, stonesun, EvilMushroom666, cronicr, PussyFart
799 topic views. 32 members, 113 guests and 18 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Shroom Supply
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2016 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.048 seconds spending 0.003 seconds on 14 queries.