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OfflineHeReTiC1322
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weak...*pics*
    #4489315 - 08/03/05 12:56 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

with my current crop of treasure coast im getting real slow growth, very small shrooms and lots of weird lookin mutants. the conditions in my chamber are good, 95% hum., 76 deg, air exchange provided by a cool mist thats runs once an hour for 5 mins. are these results of weak spores or am i fuckin somethin up?
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Re: weak... [Re: HeReTiC1322]
    #4489329 - 08/03/05 01:01 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

once an hour for 5 mins, sounds like you need more air exchange.
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Re: weak... [Re: backupwards]
    #4489340 - 08/03/05 01:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Air exchange shouldnt be the problem, many do less then that..upping it would be good but I think the problem lies somewhere else. Chances are its poor substrate, poor water content of the substrate/casing layer, or something along those lines as well. Pictures are really needed though.

It could just also be the substrain..


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Re: weak... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4489444 - 08/03/05 01:31 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

oh and the reason the coolmist only runs for 5 mins is because it drops the temp considerably, so it runs just long enough to put some fresh air in. can someone help!!!


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Re: weak... [Re: HeReTiC1322]
    #4491819 - 08/03/05 10:37 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

ok, not gettin much of a response, so heres everything ive used so far.....i used brown rice flour and verm. for the substrate. cased using only vermiculite. humidity provided by perlite. air exchange by cool mist. temp stays between 74-78 unles the cool mist is running and it drops the temp to like 68 but it quickly raises back to normal within 15 mins. anyone have any thoughts??


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Re: weak... [Re: HeReTiC1322]
    #4491854 - 08/03/05 10:43 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Are you using cakes or casings?
For cakes: mutants are mainly caused by being dunked in tap water.
Casings: I dont know.


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Re: weak... [Re: ChickenNugget]
    #4491873 - 08/03/05 10:46 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

really mutants by being dunked in tap water? can you elaborate?

have you been spraying lysol around alot?


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Re: weak... [Re: backupwards]
    #4491902 - 08/03/05 10:51 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

No way! Dunking in tap water I dont think would cause mutants... h202 etc doesnt kill myc... It will kill spores though... I put tap water in my perlite terranium with h202... I fanned maybe 5 to 6 time a day for like 20 second each time(didnt want those contams comming in) I kept the temps between 70-77 soemtimes though it would go do 68 or as high as 80 Im quite please with my first flush so far.. I would kill the whole humidfier thing... sounds like overkill to me... the perlite should be fine enough...Good Luck and PEACE
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Re: weak... [Re: yodabuds]
    #4494315 - 08/04/05 11:40 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

on the upside, when woke up this morning growth looked like it had sped up drasticly...dont know why, i havent changed anything but there are still just a lot of puny shrooms. the newest thing im seeing happening is that many of the shrooms have like a "crease" running all the way up the stem and the cap, kinda looks like if you took a knife and cut it all the way up and it healed like that. any way heres a pic of the first 4 to "mature".


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Re: weak... [Re: HeReTiC1322]
    #4494326 - 08/04/05 11:44 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

:foreheadslap: OH MY!


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Re: weak... [Re: deficitism]
    #4494381 - 08/04/05 12:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Keep an eye out for contams. If you havnt used alot of lysol or petroleum based products its probably not that (those cleaning products cause mutations)..may also need a dunk..


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: weak... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4494442 - 08/04/05 12:32 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

ok. gave it a real close look and i think i might have contams. thereare these very small white spots, not attached to any mycelium in a few places. they are on top of the verm. does that sound like a contam anyone knows about?


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Re: weak... [Re: HeReTiC1322]
    #4494461 - 08/04/05 12:38 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Green molds start off white before they produce spores. The growth is much less rhizo and like fingers, and more like bubbly, solid, cottonball type white. You can tell after seeing alot the difference..you may have it..I mentioned it because the pictures resemble it a bit. If so, dont try to save it, if you see any green pop up, toss the thing, because its definatly within your substrate if it made the shrooms grow funky..like this:



Looks just a little odd, till you look underneath:


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How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: weak... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4494499 - 08/04/05 12:48 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

fuck. i think that might be my prob. ive got shrooms growing in complete circles, weak and slow growth and now i see these cotton white, tiny little balls growing on my verm and on the myc. that is visible. once again, fuck. but thanx for helpin me figure out what has gone wrong. guess ill sterilize my casing mix next time. live and learn. thanx again, ill post pics of all the crazy shit thats poppin up when theyre done.


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Re: weak... [Re: HeReTiC1322]
    #4494560 - 08/04/05 01:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Ohhh you didnt sterilize casing mix...bad practice..some people do it and it works so they start saying "yeah sure it works fine, see look!" and then cant understand why people go behind them and tell them its a good idea. It works for some, but your not in the same place as them, doing the same thing as them, using the same materials as them ect ect..definatly at least nuke the casing mix (make sure its wet), I PC all my casing mix...

I still wouldnt count it to green yet, myc can look like that...but I'd isolate it from any other casings and keep an eye on it.


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How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: weak... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4494607 - 08/04/05 01:16 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

ya im just gonna wait it out...it is still producing nonetheless. ive only got 2 casings goin right now, so its far too late for isolation...but hopefully it will five me a few more flushes if it does decide to crap out on me.
thanx again.


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Re: weak... [Re: HeReTiC1322]
    #4494623 - 08/04/05 01:19 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

NO its not far to late for isolation! Now is KEY. The green of green mold (and the colors) are the spores, THOSE are how it spread through the air. If the casing is still developing the mycelium, then its to late for the casing, but mold spores shouldnt be present yet (or at least not in huge amounts). If you leave it there and come back tomorrow and all those spots are green with spores, THEN its to late..


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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