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Icelander said:
Well If I can have more without working for it at a job I don't like, or it doesn't come at anyone elses expense (relatively). Things such as this. Like I would love a more comfortable home with land attached, for hiking and fishing and for the kids to play. But for me to get it the cost is too high. So not needing it is preferable. I am satisfied with much less than the average person here. But I "need" much less than I have. Overall I guess I would say it is much better to know the cost/benefit breakdown between needs and wants. Balance.

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OldWoodSpecter said:
You seem to think someone owes you your existance, like you MUST have food enough to survive. This need of yours to survive is just another wish. It can be granted and it can not be.
Why would anyone be obligated to provide you with means of keeping yourself alive?

Your "need" for food is not of higher priority than your wish to have a TV, unless you make it. Both can be described as either needs or wishes.

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No, If someone refuses to give me right food, for an equal regift, i will go to the forest and hunt or I will fish in the lakes or something like that, because no human has invented the animals in the forest or the fishes in the lakes.
If someone claims to possess this natural source, my indian understanding will go crazy, at least if i am very hungry and he must be lucky that I wont do hima any harm.

I can't go out to find a 'grown' TV anywhere.

That is the primal difference.

I respect humans and stuff made by humans, but things g*d made for everyone (like food, water, air and place) should not be used (by humans) to bring pressure on (other) humans, because those like me will go totally mad and wild on this ! I think, that is some prime evil.
And that is, what I spoke out here so often...

When does finally everyone realise, what some humans want to play on us ?

(sorry, no so relaxed )

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BlueCoyote said:
Hehe, I asked me the same question.
Answer: needs are primal, wishes are secondary.
Needs don't develop into our minds as wishes first, they develop as 'desires', better 'demands' Strongly linked to our survival.

Wishes arrive from conceptual patterns of imagined wellbeeing, not directly linked to survival

edit: It is extremliy dangerous to mix the concepts of wishing and needing

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Gomp said:
a need is a choose, a choose is intent, our intent is the action. and it cannot be changed, for it changes... in the change of it..

if you need to breath, it may be because you think you have to sustain your body with 'air' and do. But you could be dead.. :P

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BlueCoyote said:
Hmm..perhaps need and wish can result in the same visible output, called greed ?
Needy greed is natural; the wishy greed some kind of shit, haha
But to remix it with buddhism, all desires should be contemplated about

I will blow everyones mind who puts the greed of food of a starving person on the same importance as an arabic prince who greeds for his special high breed race horces.

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