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InvisibleOneMoreRobot3021
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I can't roll a joint.
    #4483707 - 08/02/05 01:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

And I really want to learn how,. But whenever I start to teach myself, I get so dejected so quickly. It seems like I should be able to roll joints...I want to smoke more of them...and right now I have dry ass weed, and a lot of it.

But I just can';t seem to get the hang of it. :frown:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483713 - 08/02/05 01:54 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I can't do it either...I've practiced and practiced. 

So now I don't sweat it and roll joints with a cigarette roller. :thumbup:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483714 - 08/02/05 01:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I cant either soo you knwo what I did? Got a joint roller from the head shop. It rolls the perfect joint.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: MOTH]
    #4483718 - 08/02/05 01:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hehe you beat me to it! I introduced her to the joint roller :smile:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: KristiMidocean]
    #4483720 - 08/02/05 01:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i learned when i was like 12...

a dollar bills is your best friend when rolling....


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483722 - 08/02/05 01:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:

It just takes practice, man. And you have to find your own technique.

Every time you can, roll a joint. You'll be pro at it in no time, I'm telling you.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: MOTH]
    #4483723 - 08/02/05 01:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Bah, too easy.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: CaptainH13]
    #4483727 - 08/02/05 01:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

What's the $bill trick?


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: CaptainH13]
    #4483728 - 08/02/05 01:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: CaptainH13]
    #4483729 - 08/02/05 01:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483731 - 08/02/05 01:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

the trick is to use the paper to roll it into a compact cylinder before you attempt actually rolling it.. then it's just a matter of making a tight roll.. once you get the paper folded over and tucked, give it a nice steady roll using both your thumbs.. it definitely takes practice. but ya a cigarette roller is a good substitute if you get too frustrated.. rolls em perfect every time :thumbup:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483735 - 08/02/05 01:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I can't roll a descent one either. I do get really protective of my obtusely rolled joints though, I think it gives each one some character.

Have a rolling competition with some of your friends and make sure no one cheats by using a pen.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483739 - 08/02/05 02:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Joints always seemed wasteful to me, hence I never really learned how to roll one either. I never smoke joints when I'm by myself, as I just pack a bowl or a bong, so really I only smoke joints when someone else rolls them.

I know primitive rolling, but I don't do it so I never advanced to the master joint roller status as I really don't care about joints. When I want to smoke, I'm far too impatient to grab a paper and roll a spliff when I could just pack the bud in a bowl in 5 seconds and smoke it that way.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483741 - 08/02/05 02:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483744 - 08/02/05 02:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

what i did ,and still do ,but i don'r really smoke joints anymore..

(bare with me i'm increaditbly drunk)


1: put weed in center of paper...

2; fold the corners IN a bit...

3: start with the rolling..

4: when you get it rather tight ,put it on a loose bill,and "roll" it through the bill,be shure to rols the bill ABOVE the joint,so as to not sqush it...


smoke and enojoy... :grin:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483758 - 08/02/05 02:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It's like riding a bike bro. You just have to sit there and keep trying and when you finally get the hang of it you will never forget how to do it. Eventually you will come up with your own method of rolling that works well for you. For almost 4 years of smoking bud I couldn't roll a joint at all. I tried and tried. Finally I said fuck it one night I was really baked and made it a mission to accomplish. I sat there and went through two packs of EZ Widers but finally got it down to a science. :smile: EZ Wider 1 1/2's are very good for learning to roll. :thumbup:

If you really don't feel like sitting down and fucking around tonight just empty out a cigarette. It takes a while but it will work. Fill it up and use a q-tip or pen to pack down the green. When you're finished rip or cut the filter off and you'll have a nice joint to smoke. You want it tight but not too tight. :sun:

edit: Try folding the paper in half before rolling (the long way).


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Edited by mattzdope (08/02/05 02:20 AM)


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483770 - 08/02/05 02:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

haha


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #4483778 - 08/02/05 02:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The key to learning how to roll a good joint is smoking cigarettes. Trust me, I'm going somewhere with this. Alright, you're addicted to cigarettes? Perfect. Now buy a pouch of rolling tobacco and some papers, don't get any other cigarettes around you. Desperation alone will teach you how to roll a cigarette, and you'll just get better and the joints will be perfect in no time.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483788 - 08/02/05 02:15 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

it is so easy, after you roll your own tobacco..that is where you get practice in...


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Skunk420]
    #4483798 - 08/02/05 02:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah and bud is easier to roll than tobacco because it sticks. REAL sticky bud is always easier to roll than anything else. I used to love rolling up very sticky outdoor. :smile: :thumbup:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #4483808 - 08/02/05 02:21 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

How many stoners does it take to roll a joint

http://www.xs4all.nl/~4david/jointpic.html
That is the good guide - Step 2 is the hardest part people have.  I put my Index fingers long ways then start to mold the joint..with my middle finger and thumb - Once it's tight enough just lick and roll :smile:

Seriously robot - look at that guide...


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #4483831 - 08/02/05 02:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

When I first started learning to roll js the part that frustrated me the most was in the process alot of bud would be coming out each end of the doobie while I was rolling it. I gave up until a friends sister taught me how to make a sort of pouch with the paper first before rolling. You fold the paper like you would when getting ready to roll one but you wet the two side edges with your mouth and then sort of roll them really tight like a scroll to form the pouch. Anyone else no the method im talking about? I found that made it alot easier but now I can just roll a standard doobie like a champ.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4483839 - 08/02/05 02:28 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:cryariver:


AAAAAAAH


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483840 - 08/02/05 02:28 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

A moderator that can't roll a joint?! Something wrong with that. :smirk:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4483850 - 08/02/05 02:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: yea really..not to be rude..


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4483853 - 08/02/05 02:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I dunno how to explain it.

When you get it in that joint like shape, just sort of squeeze it and keep rolling the paper with the weed in it. Eventually when it gets really tight and the paper gets just right, you can just roll it up.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4483855 - 08/02/05 02:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I was waiting for that. :blush:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483857 - 08/02/05 02:31 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

As with anything when you get frustrated you are going to keep failing. Chill out, smoke a little green, and keep trying. You'll get it. We want pics when you finally roll one up bro! :grin:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483873 - 08/02/05 02:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yea, I say practice more with the dollar bill or pen technique. I like the pen one. But my favorite is the cigarrette roller. Those are awesome and make a perfect fatty. Be sure the roller is the same size as the papers. Or you'll be like my lazy ass and have to rip a 1/4 of the paper off. Blaze up and enjoy.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483877 - 08/02/05 02:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think the main problem for beginners is rolling it up too early. Just take your time when you got the weed in the paper. Make sure it's really tight and the consistency is right, and that the paper is really starting to stick to the weed and curl.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483893 - 08/02/05 02:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

How old are you ?


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4483896 - 08/02/05 02:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that is one of the main problems. Another problem for me is I thought I had to roll the paper up 'perfectly' which is totally untrue. Once you get the bud nicely formed using your thumbs press down some of the front paper over the bud (not the exact top edge down a little from the top) and roll it up. If it seems off or loose just come back down with it again and roll it back up tighter. (if that made any since.. its hard to explain)


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: TYL3R]
    #4483898 - 08/02/05 02:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm 16, I'm gonna ban myself for being an underage user. :lol:


I turned 22 in June. Started smoking pot second half of my senior year of high school...always bongs n bowls.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483901 - 08/02/05 02:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You've watched somebody roll a joint before though? The techs that are on the computer are hard to follow. It's easier if you've watched somebody roll up a lot. Just use their technique but exploit it to work perfectly for you.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483904 - 08/02/05 02:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If I bought a robot and it couldn't roll a joint I would be really dissapointed. Then I would upload a shame program so the robot would feel just as bad...


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #4483923 - 08/02/05 02:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I put it in my pipe and smoked it. :lol: :grin: :stoned:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483937 - 08/02/05 02:54 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That's no way to learn. :wink:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483939 - 08/02/05 02:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483953 - 08/02/05 03:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well i just enjoyed a tasty sliff so  :razz:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4483965 - 08/02/05 03:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

it can be a tuff task to get good at, an old timer gave me a tip one time and it worked great.

cup your paper, fill it nice and even. then start in the middle with your thumbs and your index fingers across the back. roll it up and down a few times with your thumbs in the middle until the paper will roll under. then roll from the middle to the edges. man it is harder to explain in words, that for sure.

another trick that someone told me was that if you have trouble with your papers sticking, don't lick the gummed side but instead lick the opposite side of the gummed area and it will wet through the paper and stick better. less spit all over the dub too. it really works.

practice does indeed make perfect here. the idea of rolling your own cigs gives you lots of practice too. i rolled my own for a couple years and got very good at it that way.

good luck and keep at it.
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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4484234 - 08/02/05 04:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I don't smoke pot, but I roll cigarettes. The best advice I ever got is "don't be dainty with it, be firm"

that might help


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Jenny]
    #4484259 - 08/02/05 05:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

okay man, i know it can be tough at first, but once you get the hang of it, rolling joints is really enjoyable, and you will be wanting to do it all the time!
what you should do, pick up a dub and a pack of zig zags, grind your weed up, and try and try again! you will fail at first, but do not be discouraged! look at your technique and see where it can be improved, and..improve it! i have faith in you, dont give up and toss it in a bong, because it is tough to discreetly smoke a bong walking down the streets in my experience!


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    #4484266 - 08/02/05 05:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4484435 - 08/02/05 08:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I never could roll one either but my brother in law can roll one one handed while driving down the road. I've seen him do it many times.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4484440 - 08/02/05 08:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

just get some paks of good papers, like club, pure rice papers,no glue
sit down, and roll,tear it up and just keep repeating till the paks are gone, then you will be a pro. :thumbup:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: rod]
    #4484476 - 08/02/05 09:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It's easier to roll a hog's leg than a pinner so use a fair bit of weed and roll a fat one. There's nothing to it; just roll it up! I honestly think I rolled a respectable j the first time I tried. You must have a mental block or something. Did your mother tell you it's bad for you?


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #4484521 - 08/02/05 09:32 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I would say the best thing to do is practice. I had asthma when I first started smoking and it seemed like bowls always choked me and then I wouldn't inhale enough for fear of getting choked so i wouldn't get that high. Well I started rolling joints and now I can do it perfectly. I have seen alot of bowl smokers be messy breaking up their weed. Make sure you break it up nicely, nothing worse than a lumpy joint.

Get you a pack of papers and practice. The dollar bill thing is handy but sometimes you don't have one and it's just easier, when you get good to do it freehanded.

I don't see alot of people do this but, when I was first taught to roll one, the man teaching me always made 2 little folds at the fold. It makes a little pouch and the weed is less likely to fall when you try to shape and tighten the joint.

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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4484540 - 08/02/05 09:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i never smoke those tiny ass zig-zag joints. well, ok, every now and again - but i prefer to make nice big spliffs with big "smoking" papers (i prefer the black's cause they are the slimmest). however, there is no way that i could explain how to do it without showing you. :shrug: i used to be crap, but after some time i got damn good at it!


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Krishna]
    #4484554 - 08/02/05 09:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I use Smoking as well, definately the highest quality brand. I alternate between De Lux (black), and Master (silver) depending on what I am smoking. Master is actually slimmer than De Lux. (Slim and Eco are just as slim as De Lux btw).


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #4484561 - 08/02/05 09:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Robot, you know, I couldn't roll a joint till freshman year in college, when I forgot my bowl at home and I was left with no way to smoke weed besides rolling for several weeks... I used to roll them very evenly, as to look like cigarettes, and then I'd walk around campus and smoke weed...

Being that you live near me, I'd be glad to give you personal instruction! I usually roll with "filters" - just some rolled up index card or other similar stock paper at the end - and I generally roll cones. When I was in London, a fellow shroomerite taught me the "credit card trick" - I can roll fine without it, but it allows me to use less paper. Rizla king size all the way!


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: mikeytwice]
    #4484563 - 08/02/05 09:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ugh, I hate Rizla... Horrible papers... IMO


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #4484570 - 08/02/05 10:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Paper nazi.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Hanky]
    #4484573 - 08/02/05 10:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I know.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #4484620 - 08/02/05 10:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I like zigzag slims but rizla is fine at four AM and it's all you can find under the back seat of the car.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4484622 - 08/02/05 10:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If you start buying rolling tobacco, it's a great way to practice.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Silversoul]
    #4484627 - 08/02/05 10:25 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

^^^^^ Tru dat ^^^^^


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Silversoul]
    #4484629 - 08/02/05 10:25 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

heh, everytime I looked your way at Cedar Point I saw you rolling a tobacco cig.  :grin:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: MOTH]
    #4484634 - 08/02/05 10:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Thats because he cant afford tailor mades.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4484739 - 08/02/05 11:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Learn with a dollar bill or start with blunts.

Use the concept of a rolling machine with a dollar bill to get the hang of it or start with 1.5's(too much paper).


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: baraka]
    #4484807 - 08/02/05 11:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I can't roll with those rolling machines or with a dollar bill, I don't know how people do that, but I don't think it will help you learn that much. It's just a crutch. Kind of like training wheels on a bike, they'll help you get going, but you don't learn how to balance properly until you get rid of them.

It's all about practice. When I first started smoking I rolled shitty joints, but they worked, eventually I got better. I used to sit down with some papers and a pile of oregano and practice.

Zig Zag whites should do you just fine. They have a good gum, they're thin, and they burn well.

I like Smoking papers as well, but headshop papers tend to be ridiculously overpriced.

The hardest part about rolling joints is getting the right tightness, depending on how moist/resinous the weed is. With rolling tobacco you can usually roll it as tight as you want and it'll be fine, but weed can be picky.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4484931 - 08/02/05 12:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Thats crazy, i guess it depends on where you live.where i started smoking there was no such thing as pipes or bongs.I was the first one to have bong in my group of friends actually. The first time i smoked i had to roll my first joint, i got good real fast within a week or so its not that hard. just practice if your bud is that dry you can use the same weed over and over again.when you finally make a good one smoke that sucker down :stoned:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: buckwheat]
    #4484961 - 08/02/05 12:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

First of all, I pity the fool who uses any kind of rolling paper or machine. I believe that rolling a joint/dube` is an art.

But like a lot of skills, it can take time to master. I've rolled hundreds of joints, and yet I still make mistakes, here and there, from time to time. sometimes, I forget to take a little piece of stem or sometimes the joint seems pregnant. But now, that im pretty experience with rolling, I dont roll like most people do. I roll it as a cone.

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Zig Zag whites should do you just fine. They have a good gum, they're thin, and they burn well.




Sooo not true. Sure, they're cheap. But they are thick and quick burning.
Hemp paper is the choice. Trust me, I tried atleast two dozens kinds of rolling papers. Most of hemp papers are very thin, easy to roll, nice paste, slow burning, its transparent (depends on how oily your cannabis is), and you can fully taste the flavor of your plant. My preference for rolling papers are Smoking, Skunk, Rizzlas.

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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: TheCheat]
    #4484976 - 08/02/05 01:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)


Sooo not true. Sure, they're cheap. But they are thick and quick burning.


Huh? ZigZag whites, the slow burning ones.

I've tried countless different papers as well, zig zags work very well.

The idea that you'd need some air-thin paper to be able to taste your plant is psychological. You don't need to pay out your ass for fancy hemp papers to roll a good joint. Rice paper (zig zags) works extremely well, hemp is a gimmick.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: TheCheat]
    #4484984 - 08/02/05 01:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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First of all, I pity the fool who uses any kind of rolling paper or machine. I believe that rolling a joint/dube` is an art.




yeah, I agree.  I guess as a stoner it's obligatory for me to learn (and not use the roller) but I don't care that much.  Just give me a joint damnnit, I don't care how it's rolled!  :grin:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: MOTH]
    #4485050 - 08/02/05 01:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I roll joints cause a bowl just taints the bud's flavor after a while. I could clean the bowl but it's a bitch and I smoke to much. I still use my Steam Roller though...

I started out with the $ bill trick and worked my way up from there... now my joints smoke better than ever. The rollers from the headshop seem to have more runners but that's prolly different from person to person.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Phluck]
    #4485088 - 08/02/05 01:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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hemp is a gimmick.



Yep. Hemp is a great material that has a vast variety of uses, but as far as rolling papers goes, I agree it's definitely a gimmick. They are somewhat ok, but in my opinion rice papers are much better.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #4485116 - 08/02/05 01:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

heh, i never learned to roll. its a waste of time and energy.

get a girlfriend who can roll a deacent rocket, and anytime you want a boombatty you just promise her a roll in the hay for a roll of hay.

that way you get both joint and pussy.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Mindzpore]
    #4485150 - 08/02/05 02:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

weak... your gf shouldnt have to roll a joint for you.

it really isnt that hard to learn.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Mindzpore]
    #4485161 - 08/02/05 02:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I dislike hemp papers and the french culture, but i love me JOB french lights 1.25. They are my favorite. You can almost see thru them and burn great. I dont like zig zags as much for whatever reason and joker/ez widers suck because of thier gums. I used to burn in the hot tub when i lived with my parents and ez widers would always fall apart in there.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: baraka]
    #4485219 - 08/02/05 02:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

True that. zip zags never fucken stick.
I like to use bambu hemp papers.. they are extra long and stick well


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Shroomism]
    #4485254 - 08/02/05 02:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Smoking Blacks are the papers I always grab. Gotta make sure there king size too;)


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: wharfrat12]
    #4485332 - 08/02/05 02:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Randy's King Sized Wire Papers fucking rule!
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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: TheDudeAbides]
    #4485394 - 08/02/05 03:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i cant stand wire papers... it was cool the first time i used it... then it just became gay to hold that little wire while you smoke... besides, the papers are always alot harsher than regular paps


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #4485531 - 08/02/05 03:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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It's easier to roll a hog's leg than a pinner so use a fair bit of weed and roll a fat one. There's nothing to it; just roll it up! I honestly think I rolled a respectable j the first time I tried. You must have a mental block or something. Did your mother tell you it's bad for you?




listen to this guy... it's alot harder to roll a pinner
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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Cowgold]
    #4485605 - 08/02/05 03:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The discussion continues! Now that we're on choices of papers, I buy the 300 foot roll of blueberry papers, can't think of the brand off the top of my head but they're the only one I've found that come in a roll (think toilet paper) and they taste better than any paper I've ever found, plus you can chose how big you want it. Perfect!


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Jadian]
    #4485674 - 08/02/05 04:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm actually fairly new to rolling joints I guess. I can roll them though.

Still on my first package that my friend gave me because he hated them. Rizla +, I think they're called.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4485700 - 08/02/05 04:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Phluck said:
hemp is a gimmick.




I was just going to say that OK, we have different opinions but then after you said that, you just showed more ignorance. hence, j00 lose!

Quote:

get a girlfriend who can roll a deacent rocket, and anytime you want a boombatty you just promise her a roll in the hay for a roll of hay.

that way you get both joint and pussy.




oh, please, don't even try to justify yourself not being able to roll by combining it with pussy. Don't tell me bitch at your gf everytime you want a dube`. It's not hard to roll and and its not hard to get pussy.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: TheCheat]
    #4485735 - 08/02/05 04:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)


I was just going to say that OK, we have different opinions but then after you said that, you just showed more ignorance. hence, j00 lose!


Why is that more ignorance? Is simply dismissing an opinion as ignorance without justification not ignorance itself?

And to people who say that ZigZags don't stick: huh?

They stick way better than many papers I've used.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Phluck]
    #4485857 - 08/02/05 04:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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And to people who say that ZigZags don't stick: huh?

They stick way better than many papers I've used.




He's right, if they don't stick it's because you licked the glue off!


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4485887 - 08/02/05 04:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Adden]
    #4486035 - 08/02/05 05:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ezwiders and jokers are the ones that dont stick well i think. Althought i had a pack of french lights get all wet and the gums where non existant. I still rolled joints all thru bonnaroo with them, just gotta make sure they seal good.


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Infrared]
    #4486155 - 08/02/05 06:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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DeepBlue42 said:
weak... your gf shouldnt have to roll a joint for you.

it really isnt that hard to learn.


...:lol: yea really, you supposed to roll for your girlfriend, not the other way around...
Rolling just takes practice, it really isnt that hard... :tongue2:


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Re: I can't roll a joint. [Re: Skunk420]
    #4495448 - 08/04/05 04:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

remember those smokeless cigarettes? when's someone going to make smokeless papers, or are they available already?

i don't mind rizla's... theyre thin and don't rip for me... hate ezwiders... zigzags can be ok...


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