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Gijith said:
Sorry, I was posting very fast and was not clear enough (I had a Lean Pocket in the microwave)...

What I'm trying to say is that the term 'physical addiction' is meaningless. As far as I know, people in addiction medicine don't use it anymore. In this same way, 'psychological addiction' doesn't carry the traditional label people put upon it. From what I know, things now fall under two categories: Physical Dependence and, simply, Addiction. Physical dependence is gaged by the appearance of physical withdrawal symptoms immediately after a substance is stopped. And no, marijuana withdrawal does not produce many symptoms. But, by definition, those symptoms have nothing to do with a drive to continue using. For example, prozac can be a physically dependent substance... Addiction, on the other hand, is the psychological drive to continue behavior, regardless of consequence. When it comes to addiction, the physiology can be classified as the being similar in marijuana, as in cocaine, as in sex, as in eating disorders. All the same because what the brain is responding to is the release of neurotransmitters. As you know, over time, our brain teaches itself to reward certain behaviors by releasing these. Dopamine, in particular, if I'm not mistaken. That drive to reward is the entire basis of 'psychological' addiction. I've read all sorts of stuff as to how this evolved in our minds. Lots of interesting theories. But I'm not sure we'll ever know for sure.

... What I'm trying to say if you exhibit addictive behavior, you're addicted to something. Whether you're 'physically addicted' doesn't really matter. It's not addiction at all. That's just the icing on top of the pathology.

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Hmm...interesting. When you put it like that I guess I was addicted - or rather, still am addicted. When I don't have it, I really wish I did. And if I did have more access to it, I'd be wasted all the time. Ah well, there's worse things to get hooked on, I suppose.... 

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Evan said:
I think there should be a rule that if you have 3 shrooms or less you should be limited to 25 posts a day.

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EllemyshShade said:
Why flame??!!

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question_for_joo said:
all i'm saying is it's easy to say marijuana isn't physically addictive or marijuana isn't psychologically addictive but it's another thing to actually stop use and that is something which so many users who say it's harmless and nonaddictive are unable to do.

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I totally agree with this statement.

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QuantumMeltdown said:
I think most people fall into either one of two categories with their opinions on pot. On one side are people who believe all the commercials and government propaganda about it. There is the opposite side of people who believe just as much propaganda but its pro-pot. These people believe its about as safe as drinking a glass of water. They will actually go out of there way kind of like the govt to defend pot use even in the cases where it's obviously not benifiting the person. They want to deny that its possible for people to ever have a problem with it. There are very few people that actually see it for what it is.

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Yeah I completely agree with you, and I actually find myself running more into the second group of people than the first these past few years in college.

I once had this huge long thread in Overgrow where all I was saying was that pot activists lose so much credibility by acting like pot is completely and absolutely harmless, and more often than not, people on the board tried to argue with me that it really is harmless   That was about the last time I posted on OG.

I'm in the same vaporizer boat as you my friend.  We need a vaporizer smiley