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BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL
    #4477647 - 07/31/05 05:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

BCMP RAID! EMERY IN JAIL
BC MP Bookstore BEING RAIDED RIGHT NOW
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Emery empire raided at request of United States

Cannabis activist and two others arrested

Canadian police acting under orders from US officials raided the headquarters of the British Columbia Marijuana Party (BCMP) in Vancouver on the morning of Friday, July 22.

The search warrants were authorized at the highest levels of the provincial government in concert with a cross-border US-Canada law enforcement pact created by a US-authored Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters treaty (MLAT) between the US and Canada.

The US has issued extradition orders for Marc Emery, who was arrested while traveling in Halifax to a hemp festival; two other Emery associates, including the media icon known as "Marijuana Man," were arrested in Vancouver.

Emery?s arrest was coordinated by Vancouver and Halifax drug agents working together with RCMP (Mounties) and DEA to surveil Emery?s cross-country movements minute by minute, according to statements made by Halifax police officials.

US officials claim that the investigation that led to the raid and arrests involved 50 DEA offices in many US states, as well as local and federal Canadian police forces.

In a major press conference held in Seattle, American officials accused Emery of "conspiracy to produce marijuana and distribute marijuana seeds, and money laundering."

The DEA and other agencies are claiming that by selling seeds to pot-growing Americans, Emery engaged in a criminal enterprise with the growers. In the eyes of his accusers, providing marijuana seeds is the same as selling marijuana produced from those seeds.

"Their activities resulted in the growing of tens of thousands of marijuana plants in America," claimed US federal attorney Jeff Sullivan. "[Emery] was involved, allegedly, in an illegal distribution of marijuana in [the United States.] He is a drug dealer."

Sullivan and DEA official Rod Benson, whose Seattle, Washington DEA office headed a nearly two-year investigation of Emery, claim that Emery?s seeds produced tens of thousands of marijuana plants grown by personal use growers and commercial growers.

Benson referred to the joining of Canadian and US police in the MLAT attack as an "aggressive partnership of law enforcement and intelligence gathering."

The use of MLAT to take down Emery implies that Canadian Minister of Justice Irwin Cotler, who has been harshly criticized by Emery and his employees due to Cotler?s refusal to back American-born marijuana refugee Renee Boje in her bid to avoid extradition from Canada to the US to face cultivation charges, signed off on the MLAT operation.

It is likely that the highest levels of the Canadian provincial and federal governments were involved in setting up the MLAT investigation and raid, which raises obvious issues of Canadian sovereignty and reveals to Canadians in a very stark way that Canadian law enforcement can sometimes be a tool of US drug agents.

Emery was secretly indicted by a US federal grand jury in May, 2005, officials said, after an investigation that began in early 2004.

The raids were apparently timed to coincide with Emery?s visit to a Nova Scotia hemp festival; during the visit, he was arrested by Mounties and local police acting under orders from the DEA and Vancouver Police.

The DEA and US federal prosecutors hope to bring Emery and his two co-defendants to Seattle for trial in the US. If they are convicted there, they could be sentenced to a minimum of ten years in prison, but maximum penalties include life in prison for the 47-year-old activist sometimes known (and described in official DEA records), as the "Prince of Pot."

Of particular interest for customers of Emery?s seed site is the DEA claim that they have traced Emery?s seeds to illegal grows in Indiana, Florida, California, Tennessee, Montana, Virginia, Michigan, New Jersey and North Dakota.

While it is not known if these claims are accurate, or what action if any the DEA intends to take against people who have grown marijuana using Emery seeds, prudence would dictate that people who have ordered from Emery during the past two years should consider whether they might be a target of investigations, especially if they are involved in large-scale commercial cultivation.

People who have ordered from other internet seed sellers should also be concerned, said a cannabis grower in the US, noting that although viable marijuana seeds are legal in some countries, sending seeds to North America is not.

"I?d guess that anybody who advertises cannabis seeds on the Internet or in a magazine, and their customers, could be a DEA target, whether they are located in Canada, England, Holland, wherever," he said. "If you buy pot seeds from anybody who has a pot seed internet site, you take a risk. It isn?t just people who bought from Emery."

Vancouver Police spokesperson Howard Chow admitted that Emery?s selling of marijuana seeds "is not enough" for him to have been arrested by Canadian authorities acting on their own, and confirmed that the arrests came solely because the DEA had provided motivation and information that led to the raids.

US officials indicated they had been studying Emery?s website and political statements, which contain candid and forthright information provided by Emery about what he sees as a way to use seed sales to fund a political movement.

US Federal Attorney Sullivan, seeking to counter the assertion that Emery is a political activist being prosecuted only because he valiantly fights against marijuana laws, mentioned Emery?s magazine (Cannabis Culture) and his political party, and then specifically asserted that the raids had nothing to do with those media-political activities.

Emery claims to make $3 million a year from selling marijuana seeds online and by mail, along with selling equipment for grow operations, such as fertilizer, lighting, and other products that help people grow plants, according to US officials.

"The fact is, marijuana is a very dangerous drug," Sullivan said. "People don't say that, but right now in America, there are more kids in treatment for addiction to marijuana than every other illegal drug combined."

Sullivan said Emery is facing a maximum sentence of life in prison, explaining that his government has requested that Emery not be granted bail and remain in custody for the "six months to two years" before Emery would actually be sent to the US to face charges, if the extradition request is successful.

The DEA said it mounted an 18-month undercover investigation during which Emery sold seeds to undercover Drug Enforcement Administration agents, by mail and in person. DEA spokespersons noted that Emery was the world?s largest and most professional marijuana seed retailer, offering 600 strains from dozens of suppliers.

Rod Benson, the DEA's Seattle special agent in charge, told a news conference here that Emery showed "overwhelming arrogance and abuse of the rule of law," and added that many marijuana growers would be negatively affected if they are unable to buy seeds from Emery, who is generally acknowledged to have pioneered the worldwide cannabis seed market.

Emery's websites at www.cannabisculture.com and www.emeryseeds.com were temporarily disabled during the raids, but were functioning again soon thereafter.

Search warrants were executed on Emery's home, his office and other businesses, Sullivan said. Court documents listed "Prince of Pot" as an alias for the activist.

In 1994, Emery opened a Vancouver-based store called Hemp BC selling marijuana paraphernalia and seeds. Police raided the store in 1996 and again in 1998, confiscating his entire stock. Undaunted, Emery founded the BCMP and expanded his seed empire across the world.

The raid took place at 11 am. According to witnesses, police chained the BCMP doors, put barriers on the windows, and are dismantling the store to seize business records, seeds, computers, and other materials. Police seized cash, employee records and computer records. Vancouver police (VPD) were in charge of the morning raid on the legendary BCMP store in the heart of Vancouver's "Vansterdam" district.

VPD spokespersons attempting to justify the raids in light of the fact that they?ve known about Emery?s seed sales for many years, admitted that complaints from American officials prompted the raids.

"The DEA came to us about a year ago surrounding Marc Emery and asked for our assistance in the criminal investigation that had to do with trafficking a controlled substance," said a VPD spokesperson. "It just comes in terms of resources and priority. We get information and we act on it and we deal with it at that time. You can expect that anybody who engages in criminal activity on a high profile, such as Marc Emery does, is not going to expect to do it forever before you have to account for your actions. It's an ongoing investigation. There may be further charges that come out of this."

Chris Bennett, manager of Pot-TV who was onsite when the BCMP center was raided, said he is particularly angry that Vancouver police and other Canadians were acting as enforcers of American drug laws against Canadian citizens.

"They're taking him down to face charges in the United States of America, where sentences are much harsher that one would face in Canada," said Bennett.

Emery has been arrested for marijuana-related "crimes" many times before, but those other arrests involved local Canadian charges and jurisdictions. Today's charges are far more serious because they involve US federal laws that stipulate mandatory minimum sentences of 10 years, with life imprisonment a possibility.

Last year, Emery served 91 days in a Saskatoon, Canada jail for passing a joint.

American officials are seeking Emery's extradition, but extradition battles can take many years in the courts. Emery now becomes yet another high-profile cannabis activist seeking to fight off American attempts to prosecute him in the US.

Renee Boje, whose husband Chris Bennett works for Emery at BCMP as manager of Pot-TV, has been fighting for years to quash a US extradition order. Her legal costs have been funded by Emery.

The bi-lateral law enforcement treaty (MLAT) that snared Emery and his compatriots is part of a controversial global American network of treaties allowing the US to use foreign police agents to investigate and arrest foreign citizens on behalf of the United States.

MLAT's help the US violate civil rights protections and other constitutional protections that would normally be afforded to citizens by their own countries.

The first US bilateral MLAT, between America and Switzerland, was entered into in 1977. The treaties are seen as a powerful tool of US foreign policy and hegemony, but have rarely been used against marijuana defendants. Dozens of countries have entered into MLAT's with the US since 1977; the treaties are seen as a way for US police and prosecutors to arrest people no matter where they live, even if they are not guilty of a serious or arrestable crime in their home country.

The MLAT treaties favor prosecutors and police, and make it virtually impossible for defense attorneys to advocate for clients snared by MLAT operations.

MLAT's have been criticized in other countries. Critics say US MLAT actions against foreigners violate international law, compromise human rights, and violate national sovereignty.

The Irish Human Rights Commission has complained about a US-Ireland MLAT that allows CIA agents to secretly question Irish citizens on Irish soil.

The MLAT signed by Irish Minister for Justice Michael McDowell and US Ambassador to Ireland James Kenny gives sweeping powers to US authorities operating in Ireland, including the right to seize documents, check bank accounts and carry out searches of property.

The Irish Human Rights Commission (IHRC) said it would be examining the agreement, which was pushed through with the promise that it would only be used to assist the US "war on terror."

Human rights activists in Ireland are particularly concerned that CIA interrogations of Irish citizens will be carried out in secret and that the costs of CIA operations in Ireland will be paid by Irish taxpayers.

The cross-border MLAT efforts sometimes involve enforcement of the United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances that was finalized worldwide on November 11, 1990.

It is possible that Emery and his associates would be charged with violating this Convention. In past years, UN officials have condemned Emery by name.

The raids leave many questions unanswered.

Although Emery is the highest profile marijuana activist in the world, who publicly airs reality television shows portraying all aspects of marijuana culture and who hosts marijuana connoisseur events like the Toker's Bowl, he is by far not the only person selling marijuana seeds across international boundaries from downtown Vancouver.

Vansterdam insiders note that while police were raiding Emery's store on West Hastings Street in downtown Vancouver, other marijuana seed businesses in the BCMP building and across the street were still open for business, and people were smoking marijuana while watching the raid.

The issue of selective prosecution is also raised by insiders who note that US and Canadian officials are aware of massive cross-border organized crime operations that involve guns, hard drugs, and other illegality on a scale that dwarfs Emery's marijuana-only, politically-inspired seed business.

Few if any of the many hardcore cross-border violent criminals who are well-known to police on both sides of the border have been pursued with the ferocity evidenced by today?s raids on Emery and BCMP. The use of MLAT to attack a non-violent symbol of marijuana activism seems like unprecedented overkill to Vansterdam denizens, and is a sign that the drug war has created an unprecedented, troubling alliance between US and Canadian police, prosecutors and politicians.

Anti-marijuana Canadian politician Randy White applauded the raids, saying that Emery has been arrested many times and not sufficiently punished for his marijuana activities.

"Marijuana crimes are serious and that's why they [the U.S.] are doing something about it. Our government tends to sit back and wait for a catastrophe," White said.

Libby Davies, a Vancouver-area Member of Parliament who represents the progressive NDP political party, countered that the arrests go against the views of most Canadians, who support decriminalization of marijuana and who had not demanded that Emery?s marijuana businesses be shut down. The head of the NDP, influential federal politician Jack Layton, has appeared on Emery?s television shows and publicly supported virtual legalization of cannabis.

"I think it's very disturbing that the Vancouver police department is raiding a local business and arresting people for the U.S. war on drugs," Libby Davies said. "It feels to me like the long arm of U.S. enforcement reaching into Canada."

Protesters have been holding vigil and staging protests at Emery's store in Vancouver. Long-time Emery friend and cannabis activist Dana Larsen said a rally for Emery and BCMP was being planned.

"The real reason the US police want Marc Emery behind bars is because he is an outspoken and politically active advocate for marijuana legalization," Larsen said. "Please help protest this attack on Canadian sovereignty and waste of police resources. It?s time to end the war on pot."

Emery has provided hundreds of thousands of dollars in bail money, attorneys, and other support for many marijuana arrestees. He now finds himself in need of support, caught in the talons of the US government agents and its Canadian law enforcement lackeys, which he, his magazine, and his website accurately describe as totalitarian, imperialist hit squads that exhibit no respect for borders, democracy, or human rights.

For the man who is often called "The Prince of Pot," today's arrest is the ultimate, if not unanticipated, showdown with forces of darkness.

Despite the always-imminent threat of arrest, Emery has since leaving prison last year created some of the best reality television in the world, but many of his shows could be viewed as self-incrimination that provides irrefutable evidence that Emery breaks marijuana laws.

He also recently hosted the Toker?s Bowl, an event that celebrates marijuana as if it were legal, bringing cannabis lovers to Vancouver from around the world.

Emery?s actions appear to arise from his conscious choice to defy the drug war, regardless of the consequences.

After leaving jail last year, Emery said, "Once you get over your fear of whatever they can do to you, you become empowered to just live as if marijuana is legal, without much concern for the consequences they threaten you with. Whatever they do to me- arrest, incarceration, even if they kill me- it's not going to make me live in fear. We're going to continue to show them that marijuana should be legal, that our culture is harmless and vibrant, and that it is the drug war, not the cannabis culture, which threatens public order and safety."


BCMP Decries Loss of Canadian Sovereignty

Help free Marc Emery from American tyrany

Imprisoned activist Marc Emery
Today the offices of the BC Marijuana Party, a registered political party in British Columbia, were caught up in a DEA-instigated raid. The raid is a dramatic example of the loss of Canadian sovereignty to the US drug war. The focus of the US drug war is marijuana, with over 750,000 annual possession charges laid and draconian penalties for possession, cultivation and sales of the plant. Until today, Canada took a different approach.

Unfortunately, the Canadian governement appears to have abdicated its sovereignty to the United States. Most Canadian (and, indeed, most Americans) do not agree with with the war on marijuana users. It is a dark day when Canadian municipal police officers are called upon to do the bidding of US masters.

This raid must serve as a call to arms. Canada is losing the ability to independently create its drug policy, despite reams of scientific and empirical evidence that prohibition is more dangerous than a regulated approach to cannabis distribution. The battle for freedom, equality and tolerance must be fought and won. We must not allow our Canadian way of life to be subjected to the whim of the US White House and its repressive policies.

The BCMP will continue to fight for the freedom of the cannabis community, both in Canada and abroad.

Contacts:

Kirk Tousaw, Campaign Manager
604.836.1420 (cell)


Who is Marc Emery

Marc Emery, Canada's Prince of Pot

Four million pot seeds and eight years of tireless activism in support of the marijuana movement.

In November 2002, Cannabis Culture publisher Marc Emery completed his second run for Mayor of Vancouver, Canada's West Coast cannabis capital. The renowned pot seed merchant placed fifth on the crowded ballot, participating in all major debates and campaigning under the banner of the Vancouver Marijuana Party.

"I gave out thousands of leaflets outside games for our local Vancouver Canucks," Emery told Cannabis Culture. "I am a big hockey fan and I had them make me a special 420 Canucks jersey. They said I was the only one they would do with a 420, because I am a season's ticker holder."

This isn't Emery's first foray into pot politics. He is founder and President of the BC Marijuana Party, which fielded candidates in every one of the province's 79 ridings during the 2000 elections. The new party took part in one of the two major televised leaders debates, and took 3.5% of the total vote (CC#33, Marijuana Party makes BC history).

Emery is also a primary backer of the federal Canadian Marijuana Party, for which he ran as a candidate in the 2000 federal elections. Emery also ran for Mayor of Vancouver once before, in 1996.

Marc Emery is Canada's most well-known marijuana activist, and among the world's biggest dealers in marijuana seeds. He is a powerful influence in the global ganja culture and is singlehandedly helping to shape North American marijuana policy. The media has dubbed Emery "The Prince of Pot" and he enjoys the title, dispensing moral and financial support to all the activists that cross his path.

Retail revolution

Emery became a full-time pot activist in 1994, when he moved to Vancouver and founded a small store called Hemp BC. At the time, bongs, pipes, and growbooks were all illegal in Canada, and available at few if any stores.

Emery broke open the country's underground paraphernalia industry, and helped dozens of similar stores get started across the nation, wholesaling pipes and hemp products to a growing network of pro-pot businesses. Thanks to Emery's pioneering efforts and the dedication of those who took up the challenge and followed his lead, Canada now has dozens of hemp stores and head shops, all independently owned but financially and morally committed to the same goal. The law has not changed, but it is now widely ignored.

"Spreading a revolution through retail is probably the niftiest idea that we ever came up with," says Emery. "It inhibits a marijuana revolution to have a lack of money. With hemp stores, people are disseminating information in a self-sufficient way which puts them in the public sphere. This gets them lots of media attention, access to people, retail advertising, and the business community. You get social acceptance in a completely different way."

Raids and rebuilding

By the end of 1994 Emery had added a small selection of Dutch marijuana seeds for sale at his store. Emery was inspired by a speech Ben Dronkers of Sensi Seeds made at the 1994 High Times Cannabis Cup. "Ben Dronkers got up and explained that he had been responsible for disseminating millions of seeds, creating millions and millions of marijuana plants!" enthused Emery. "I realized that this was the way to fight this revolution."

Emery's Hemp BC store and its over the counter seed business grew dramatically, and he began to get serious media attention. Emery made the front page of the Wall Street Journal in December 1995, leading to a deluge of media attention, and the Vancouver police launching a serious raid one month later in January 1996. Police cleaned out the Hemp BC store, seized Emery's stash of seeds and charged him with multiple paraphernalia and pot seed related offenses.

Emery re-opened his store the next day, and took a year to slowly rebuild his business. By 1997 he had successfully expanded his store to include a Grow Shop, a Legal Assistance Centre, and the Cannabis Cafe, which featured a custom-built vaporizer built into every table. Yet police returned in December 1997, and then launched multiple raids during 1998, repeatedly seizing all the store's stock and eventually forcing the store and affiliated businesses to shut down entirely.

Despite the financial devastation and legal challenges, Emery persisted, switching his marijuana seed business to mail-order only, and focusing his efforts on publishing Cannabis Culture magazine. By early 2000 he was successfully expanding again, this time onto the Internet, with the establishment of Pot-TV, the marijuana video channel at www.pot-tv.net. Pot-TV now has an archive of over 500 hours of video - about 1000 pot-related shows available for online viewing.

"I've been arrested 10 times since 1994, and jailed on eight of those occasions," explains Emery. "I've been found guilty of numerous counts of trafficking in marijuana seeds, but the courts here don't give me anything more than a reasonable fine. Since I stopped selling seeds over the counter the police seem to have decided I'm not worth the effort, as my seed business hasn't been raided since 1998. I continue to carry the world's largest selection of marijuana seeds available by mail-order."

Seed sales pioneer

Before Emery began his marijuana seed business, pot seeds were not commercially available in Canada at all. Now there are a dozen businesses which offer mail-order seeds, and a half-dozen more who do over-the-counter sales. Yet no single dealer offers the wide variety of strains and companies which Emery continues to provide.

"I've sold about four million seeds," claims Emery. "That represents tens of millions of plants because most of these plants are grown out from seed and then cuttings are taken and hundreds of copies are made. There's just no way the government has destroyed as much pot as we've created. So it's possible that one person can undo the evil of several thousand people. You should never underestimate your power."

"Unlike most other seed dealers, I use my real name and I'm easy to find. I've been selling marijuana seeds for eight years, sending seeds to growers all over the world, including diverse places like the Czech Republic, Japan, Australia, England, South Africa, and even Korea. Business is better every year. If I wasn't honest I'd have been run out of business or killed a long time ago."

Financial fighter

Unlike many businessmen in the marijuana movement, Emery puts his money where his mouth is. "I redirect the money I make on seeds back into the movement," explains Emery. "I am totally committed to ending the war on marijuana."

Emery is a major financial backer of almost every pro-pot effort in North America and many more around the world. Emery has funded almost every significant Canadian cannabis court challenge, including the major constitutional challenge coming to Canada's Supreme Court this Spring, which could rewrite Canada's marijuana prohibition. Between 2000 and 2002, Emery invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in election campaigning for the Canadian Marijuana Party, BC Marijuana Party and the Vancouver Marijuana Party.

Emery has also made significant donations to various pro-pot ballot initiatives in US states such as California, Nevada, Alaska and Arizona, as well as buying full-page ads to support the election campaign of the Legalize Cannabis Party in New Zealand.

Other major donations to the marijuana cause include efforts as diverse as helping out refugee activists like Renee Boje and Steve Kubby, donating to Australia's Nimbin Hemp Embassy, supporting Russian cannabis researchers, aiding American drug-war prisoners, financing Canadian compassion clubs, backing the worldwide Million Marijuana March, and helping dozens of individual activists around the world with cash donations.

His tireless activism has garnered Emery some serious media attention. "I've been profiled in Time magazine, CNN, the Wall Street Journal, ABC News, USA Today, the Sunday Times of England, the Asian Wall Street Journal, even the National Enquirer, plus Mexico's national newspaper, all of Canada's major newspapers and TV stations, and countless other radio, TV, newspaper and magazine interviews I've given over the years," explains Emery. "In all of these forums I have always put forth a clear denunciation of prohibition and the many beneficial uses of marijuana and hemp."

Early history

Long before he got involved in marijuana, Emery was always an activist for social justice and civil liberties. In 1975, at the age of 16, he opened a bookstore in his hometown of London, Ontario, which he ran for 18 years before coming west to British Columbia.

"During this time I did dozens of freedom crusades," explained Emery. "That was the whole idea of the bookshop; to allow me to forward all sorts of unusual civil rights and individual liberties issues that no one else seemed to do. I soon realized why - they were all endlessly time consuming, money consuming and very discouraging.

"For two years I went out four or five nights a week to distribute pamphlets in the city, to get people against a tax-paid sports event or what have you. I was also constantly defending variety stores that sold explicit literature. I sold the banned 2 Live Crew CD. Every kind of culture or information that was under assault, our store would defend it or go to court, or do something to draw attention to it."

Emery broke Ontario's laws banning shopping on Sundays for eight straight weeks, a different way each time. One Sunday he gave away books for free and still got charged. After eight weeks of being charged every Sunday, he got convicted.

"I refused to pay the fine," explained Emery, "and I was sent to jail. You get $30 a day off the fine for every day you spend in jail, and the public raised $380 of the $500 fine, so that was enough to get me out of jail after four days. They dropped the other seven charges because I was getting too much publicity."

Emery also tried to get charged for selling banned marijuana literature from his bookstore. "I gave away High Times magazine in front of the police department. Hundreds of people rallied to get charged for that, but we didn't. They refused to charge me."

Rattling the Czar

Emery hasn't slowed down over the years, if anything he is managing to bring his brand of in-your-face activism to higher levels than ever before.

In late November 2002, shortly after the Vancouver election, US Drug Czar John Walters paid a visit to the city. Walters was scheduled to speak before a $500 per table luncheon sponsored by the Vancouver Board of Trade.

Emery bought tickets for a table and invited fellow activists like David Malmo-Levine and Chris Bennett to attend.

Emery walked up to Walter and asked if he could have his photo taken together. Walters asked who Emery was, and when Emery smiled and replied "I'm publisher of Cannabis Culture magazine" Walters turned red and quickly backed away.

With secret service agents at every entrance, eyeing the room behind dark sunglasses, Emery and his crew sat at their table, ate their lunch and politely booed America's highest anti-drug official as he took the microphone.

Emery, Bennett and Malmo-Levine called out "liar" and other short comments while Walters spoke about America's high rate of "marijuana addicts," and how tolerant "harm reduction" policies would destroy Vancouver.

A nearby table consisted of all police officers, who were eager to hear the drug czar speak and resented the presence of the potheads. "Why don't you shut up?" asked officer Toby Hinton angrily, but it was to no avail.

The officers were also likely upset that Emery had recently filed an official complaint against the Vancouver Police. Emery had complained because these same officers had improperly used a police car to pick up American anti-drug crusader Betty Sembler and drive her to an anti-drug conference. Officers had also put information from their private database onto an overhead display at the conference (CC#39, Anti-pot conference panned). Emery's formal complaints were eventually dismissed.

The showdown between Pot Prince and Drug Czar concluded peacefully, with a shaken Walters finishing his speech and being hustled off. Emery went outside to smoke joints with the handful of protestors holding anti-drug war signs in front of the building.

The next day, Emery revelled in the attention. "We got more media coverage from this one event than my whole campaign for mayor!" exclaimed Emery while looking through the papers and answering calls for interviews.

Vancouver's past and present Mayors were both at Walters' speech, both strong proponents of harm reduction and safe injection sites for heroin users. In interviews after the luncheon, new Mayor Larry Campbell questioned Walters' statements, and said that he still intended to continue with his plans to introduce more tolerant drug policies.

Future plans

Vancouver pot activists celebrated when the Hemp BC location was re-opened in 2001, as the storefront of the BC Marijuana Party. "I'm glad to see the old location up and running again," smiles Emery. "As a political party we don't need to get a city business license, so the municipal bureaucrats can't mess with us anymore."

"I had the pleasure of testifying before the Canadian Senate Committee which has recently recommended total legalization of marijuana," says Emery, "and I got to meet with and even interview MP Randy White, the head of the Parliamentary Committee on Drugs which recommended decriminalizing personal possession. Plus, I just had the honor of interviewing Tommy Chong for Pot-TV! So there's fun to be had even while we fight the forces of oppression."

When asked to explain why he devotes his time and money to this altruistic cause, Emery waxes philosophic.

"You have to know with absolute certainty that what you are pursuing is the righteous and the good and the proper and the just, and that the people we are dealing with are evil and wrong, and as long as they're in control this world will never be a safe and moral place to be," declares Emery solemnly.

"I advocate the position of liberty, the position of justice, the position of non-violent freedom for all people to do what they want, to put in their body what they want, and to act in a manner that is suitable to them without interference from others, especially their government.

"The war on marijuana and other sacred plants is the most important issue of our time. I want to see drug-peace in my lifetime. I hope that we can make Canada into a beacon of tolerance and freedom for our American neighbors, and for all pot-people around the globe. Together, we will overgrow the government!"


* Marc Emery for Mayor: www.marc4mayor.com

* BC Marijuana Party: www.bcmarijuanaparty.ca

* Marc Emery Direct Marijuana Seeds; email seeds@emeryseeds.com; web www.emeryseeds.com



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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4477657 - 07/31/05 05:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

certainly super-lame. lets hope that those in power in Canada wont let him be extradited. Life in prison has got to be cruel and unusual punishment, by anyones book....


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4477672 - 07/31/05 05:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Good, that's what he gets for smoking the devil herb!


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4477675 - 07/31/05 05:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: TheDude]
    #4477825 - 07/31/05 06:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I just heard this today. USA owns Canada. Emery could get life!


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: dante]
    #4477838 - 07/31/05 06:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: RESTLESS]
    #4477906 - 07/31/05 07:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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USA owns Canada




Cannabis laws in the USA are ridiculous!

He faces a 10 year minimum & a maximum of life oddly enough he is not charged with anything in Canada & would be a free man if the states dident interfere.



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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4477937 - 07/31/05 07:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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HELLA_TIGHT said:
Good, that's what he gets for smoking the devil herb!



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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: TheDude]
    #4478109 - 07/31/05 08:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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"The fact is, marijuana is a very dangerous drug," Sullivan said. "People don't say that, but right now in America, there are more kids in treatment for addiction to marijuana than every other illegal drug combined."




EL OH EL.:rotfl: talk about bullshit.

anyways, Me and my buddy are friends with Marc Emery. We go to his events as much as possible and we visit him alteast once a week @ his store @ Vancouver (BCMP) to have a toke or a bong hit with Marc and his knowing the guy personally, I kno his a genuine good guy who fights for what he believe is the right cause.
I hope and pray that the good and true will justified in this trial.
damn i hope America could just calm the fuck down, educate themselves and stop policing the whole fuckin' world! Reefer Madness if back :thumbdown:.

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4478142 - 07/31/05 08:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

And the USA goverment wonders why the rest of the world hates them, and sends suicide bombers.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: bukkake]
    #4478144 - 07/31/05 08:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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USA owns Canada




haha. Your as ignorant as you are arrogant. hmm.. YOU are american.

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4478160 - 07/31/05 08:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I didnt read the whole thing but looks like Marc is in for ahile.stupid DEA :mad2: this is why im moving to europe fuck them.


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    #4478203 - 07/31/05 08:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

"The fact is, marijuana is a very dangerous drug," Sullivan said. "People don't say that, but right now in America, there are more kids in treatment for addiction to marijuana than every other illegal drug combined."
WTF??? That sentence is full of bullshit and ignorance.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: TheCheat]
    #4478216 - 07/31/05 08:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4478340 - 07/31/05 09:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Nice post HELLA :crazy2:

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4478357 - 07/31/05 09:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

When I said USA owns Canada, I am not speaking favorably about America. In this situation the USA, as far as I'm concerned, forced Canada to do this! I think that's ridiculous.
I am American but I don't particularly care that I am.. it seemed that Canada, ESPECIALLY the B.C. was actually getting somewhere with these marijuana laws and then the America's DEA think that they own Canada, and put Marc Emery in jail!


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: dante]
    #4478374 - 07/31/05 09:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4478394 - 07/31/05 09:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

sounds like the bullshit laws in America! he is hating it alright...
I want to move to Canada anyway..it is a nicer and more of a laid back country then the USA...


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: dante]
    #4478482 - 07/31/05 10:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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it seemed that Canada, ESPECIALLY the B.C. was actually getting somewhere with these marijuana laws and then the America's DEA think that they own Canada, and put Marc Emery in jail!




As a Canadian that lives in B.C & who lives very close to the BCMP in Vancouver i couldent agree more with you dante.

As i have said in a previous post Marc Emery is not charged with any crime in Canada he would be scott free if the USA did not interfere.

Marc Emery is all about marijuana laws & marijuana culture he has made a lot of money from his BCMP bookstore & from his online seed company but he always gives back to fight marijuana laws & culture.

An example of what Marc has given back to the cannabis community if he sounds like he is bragging it is because this text was taken from the forums were he was insulted by a member & asked to explain were his money goes.

My money financed successful court challenge to the literature & video provision in section 462.2 of the Canadian Criminal Code. From 1988 to 1995, all literature, printed matter, video about any illegal drug was illegal to distribute in Canada. High Times was unavailable in this period, banned from Canada. All remaining copies of the Canadian Grow Yer Own Stone were seized by RCMP in 1988 under this law. All paraphernalia stores were put out of business.

I paid the money for Alan Young to go to court in 1995 and have this provision declared unconstitutional, which we successfully accomplished. Now there are HEADS, GreenThumb, High Times, Skunk Magazine, all legal because of me, Alan Young and Umberto Iorfida.

Furthermore, by 1994, there were virtually no paraphernalia shops in Canada as the 1988 law had put over 200 out of business within 5 years. There was no hemp stores known in 1994 except HEMP BC and the Great Canadian Hemporium in London, Ontario. We published the pamphlet and article in 1995, 'How To OPen Your Own Hemp Store', a model used by over 50 shops in Canada. Opening a hemp store and selling marijuana pipes, bongs, (and now bubblebags, mushroom kits,seeds) was all pioneered by me, so that in Canada we take for granted that its legal to sell pipes, bongs, bubblebags, seeds, but it is in fact illegal. Its not enforced because I been raided 5 times in very big public raids and it is our activists (David Malmo-Levine, myself) using money and opportunity provided by my organization that carved out 'safe zones' where none previously existed. The Supreme Court Case of 2003, where we did lose 6-3, was paid for over the years in large part by our organization. I would have to say that the 9 million videos viewed on POT-Tv.net is conceivably the greatest activist accomplishment in the modern period after getting rid of the literaturee law in 1995. POT-TV.net makes no money, it has surely lost well over $700,000 since its first day on January 1, 2000, but it has revolutionized the way the movement gets access to reports and the speed with with visual activism can be disseminated.

Since 1999, our organization has contributed $100,000+ to the (Million) Global Marijuana March, which sees marches & forums on legalization across the Globe. Where there are marches, the environment for marijuana tolerance is greater. Vancouver, Toronto rallies demonstrate to other Canadians that masses of Canadians can meet and celebrate Cannabis in a way that sets excellent precedents and examples for the rest of Canada.

Our organization has given Loretta Nall serious money over 2 years. This money has sent Loretta to Columbia to photograph aerial spraying of farms of peasants. Loretta is currently shepherding the Alabama Compassionate Use Act in the Alabama Statehouse. With our support, Loretta and I managed to get worldwide attention on Webster Alexander, who received a 36 year sentence for two sales of a ounce to an undercover in rural Alabama. We got Rolling stone Magazine to come out and write about Alabama sentencing and webster's case. Webster served 30 days, then weekends, for a year, because of our efforts, of his 36 year setence.

Over 25 conferences would not have happened without our money, including Mayor Larry Campbell making his public announcement last year at BEYOND PROHIBITION conference, that marijuana should be legal. This has elevated the debate in Canada as Larry Campbell repeats this often. I ran against Larry Campbell and had an opportunity to say marijuana should be legal in all my speeches in front of him. He never brought up legal marijuana before I met him, but he sure did afterward.

Jack Layton came to me for an interview on POT-TV.net. What have we accomplished? Well, the leader of Canada's third national party (currently polling well), Jack Layton has put his party on a more solidly legalization footing than any previous NDP leader. Thats a first, a national party that works in Parliament to reduce the scope of the drug war.

Not everything works, but one keeps trying. I paid legal fees, bail money, opportunity for US refugess like Steve Kubby and Renee Boje. We gave $25,000 to the Nevada legalization ballot initiative, thousands to the Alaskan legalization ballot initiative in 2002 and 2004, $7,000 to Dennis Kucinich to keep up his decriminalization message in his Presidential campaign. We were an early funder of the Marijuana Policy Project in 1999.

I bought full page ads in the daily newspapers when the APEC (Asia Pacific Economic Countries) leaders were in Vancouver in 1997 to berate them for their human rights record on pot in their respective countries. This was so offensive to the Canadian government that we were raided 4 weeks later.

There are many things possible today that were not possible in Canada when I started this legalization work back in 1991. You can publish, sell and buy literature about drugs and pot, over 1,000 titles of magazine and book, that were illegal when I started.

You can own a hemp store and not get arrested and raided.

You can publicize your injustice to hundreds of thousands of people through my media.

There are 100 seed vendors in North America, ONLY because I blazed a trail of selling & delivering seeds because I was willing to continue after police seized nearly $1,000,000 in assets and several arrests. I lost HEMP BC and the Cannabis Cafe to raids but we did not lose the war. I got raided so others have not had to.

Public opinion in Canada that favour legal possession went from 26% in 1994 to 52% in 2004. Medical marijuana legal endorsement went from 35% to 82% from 1994 to 2004.

Oh yes, did you know I established that marijuana WAS actually legal up to October 7, 2003 with my 18 city Summer of Legalization Tour. Thousands of Canadians did not get charged because police depts. and attorney-generals were scared off of charging Canadians because court cases (in small part paid for by me) established that there was no marijuana law. I went to jail on six occasions to make that point, and spent $20,000 in airfares and hotel rooms to finance that tour. The Hitzig decision existed in an ether of unawareness until my SOL TOUR made it common to every student and toker in Canada that marijuana was, for a summer anyway, legal, legal, legal.

What has that $2,000,000 got anyone. More than you can imagine, because it is impossible for any one person to be aware of the over 1,000 receiptiants, campaigns, bail hearings, court cases, ballot initiatives, conferences, elections, full page ads, store restart donations, of that $2,000,000.

I mean, we saved Webster Alexander from spending another 35 years in jail for two ounces of pot. That may have cost me about $5,000. That's good value! And there are many, many others.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4478704 - 07/31/05 11:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

"Their activities resulted in the growing of tens of thousands of marijuana plants in America,"

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Jabbawaya]
    #4478973 - 08/01/05 12:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Free Marc Emery from Nazi America!

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4479359 - 08/01/05 02:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Dety said:
Quote:

USA owns Canada




Cannabis laws in the USA are ridiculous!

He faces a 10 year minimum & a maximum of life oddly enough he is not charged with anything in Canada & would be a free man if the states dident interfere.






Depends on what state.. most laws suck. Here i cali, possession of less than an oz is just a ticket.


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    #4479367 - 08/01/05 02:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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And the USA goverment wonders why the rest of the world hates them, and sends suicide bombers.




That was a low blow. If you're gonna' send suicide bombers... bomb the retards that make/enfore stupid laws like this. What the fuck are you going to accomplish by blowing the shit out of innocent people, half of which are probably sympathetic towards mid eastern causes.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: dante]
    #4479462 - 08/01/05 02:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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dante said:
When I said USA owns Canada, I am not speaking favorably about America. In this situation the USA, as far as I'm concerned, forced Canada to do this! I think that's ridiculous.
I am American but I don't particularly care that I am.. it seemed that Canada, ESPECIALLY the B.C. was actually getting somewhere with these marijuana laws and then the America's DEA think that they own Canada, and put Marc Emery in jail!




these are all games. No matter what any officer or government agent says marijuana is too large an industry in Canada to make fully legal. right now anyway.

There will be more Emery's that come up and likely end up in jail due to similar PR stunts.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: BrAiN]
    #4479819 - 08/01/05 04:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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BrAiN said:
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rod said:
And the USA goverment wonders why the rest of the world hates them, and sends suicide bombers.




That was a low blow. If you're gonna' send suicide bombers... bomb the retards that make/enfore stupid laws like this. What the fuck are you going to accomplish by blowing the shit out of innocent people, half of which are probably sympathetic towards mid eastern causes.




That's what I've ALWAYS said.
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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Adamist]
    #4480044 - 08/01/05 06:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

this is indeed SO sad!
hopfully he'll rise up from this situation and use it to his benefit like he's done befor!

makes me scared to know that the US can do such things!
i live in fucking israel and belive me the US OWNS us... we owe them so much money and we have so many deals with them which i'm pretty sure tie us down in strings... isreal is just another puppet for the US...

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4480218 - 08/01/05 08:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't really care for Emery, but I hope he comes out of this OK. I'm sure he's eating up the attention with a spoon :smile:


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    #4480247 - 08/01/05 09:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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LordOfChaos said:
"The fact is, marijuana is a very dangerous drug," Sullivan said. "People don't say that, but right now in America, there are more kids in treatment for addiction to marijuana than every other illegal drug combined."
WTF??? That sentence is full of bullshit and ignorance.




I noticed that too. It hurts to see such stupidity in print and in action.And it's sad that kids really are in 'treatment' for a drug that is completely non-addictive and good for adults in moderation. If anything is bad for these kids it's putting them in these psycho brainwashing camps run by right wing lunatics.

And message to Canada: Grow a sac!

Don't let America pull that fascist bullshit in YOUR country. It's bad enough what's going on in the states. Don't let the disease into Canada.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #4480377 - 08/01/05 11:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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And message to Canada: Grow a sac!

Don't let America pull that fascist bullshit in YOUR country. It's bad enough what's going on in the states. Don't let the disease into Canada.





Sure...what would you suggest we do? Host big smoke ins in front of city hall?..wait...it's been done. Invade?...turn off your electricty to the western seaboard? Realisitically there is fuck all we can do since weed is still technically Illegal in Canada.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Rono]
    #4480528 - 08/01/05 12:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

"And message to Canada: Grow a sac!"

what did you do? thats right, nothing.
what will you ever do? nothing.
you talk like you got a sac tho
whats that mean? nothing!


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4480683 - 08/01/05 01:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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"And message to Canada: Grow a sac!"

what did you do? thats right, nothing.
what will you ever do? nothing.
you talk like you got a sac tho
whats that mean? nothing!




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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4480684 - 08/01/05 01:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

so again I ask...what would you suggest we do?
I could say the same to Americans for allowing the pointless war on drugs to continue...Don't you think it's own citizens would have more of an impact than another countries?
All I know is that I feel alot safer smoking a joint here than I do in the U.S....would you disagree?


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Rono]
    #4480760 - 08/01/05 02:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

His prices for seeds are outrageuos. He once threatened to narc on some of his complaining customers.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4480772 - 08/01/05 02:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ohh and to top it all off he's asking for donations for his "legal defense fund" if he can't afford to pay a lawyer with all his profits from $300 ten packs of seeds then he's a dumb ass.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4480775 - 08/01/05 02:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I personally don't like him...but I think what he's doing for the weed smoking community is good. He's not forcing anyone to buy his products.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Rono]
    #4480794 - 08/01/05 02:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I just noticed the article that Emery claims he makes 3 mil a year selling his seeds and he's asking for money for legal defense. Just because he choses to capitalize on the illegal status of Cannabis doesn't mean I would wish this on him or anyone for that matter. After reading further into the article it does mention he has given back to the community paying for others legal defense and stuff liek that. Still doesn't excuse his crazy high prices. I hope heavens stairway doesn't raise their prices because the compition has been eliminated.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4481097 - 08/01/05 03:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Now will you people finally believe that Canada is the Fifty-First state of U.S.?


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4481152 - 08/01/05 03:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Just because he choses to capitalize on the illegal status of Cannabis doesn't mean I would wish this on him or anyone for that matter. After reading further into the article it does mention he has given back to the community paying for others legal defense and stuff liek that. Still doesn't excuse his crazy high prices. I hope heavens stairway doesn't raise their prices because the compition has been eliminated.




In our economy the laws are passed with where the money is. Vote with your money, It's the most powerful tool we have as citizens. Emery has proven time and time again what he votes on and until this counter culture does the same as a whole then we won't be heard. We need more people capatilizing on illegal drugs. It allows us citizens to show how we vote. Bring the voting booths out. Capatilize the drug trade, after all it's a must in the legalization process.

If I made 3 mil a year it's nobody elses business and I wouldn't tell anyone either, that way when someone thinks I make to much they can shut the fuck up cause they're daydreaming. And if I thought I could start a fund to cover my expenses in court fees and what not then hell yeah I would. This guy is just like us, only he puts his ass on the line for what he believes in.

Does anyone know of any groups to join to show my support in drug reform? All that you know of please... It's time I started walkin the walk.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Cowgold]
    #4481527 - 08/01/05 05:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My impression of Marc Emery is that he is cool and does a lot of good stuff. It's bad that he is in jail. I just do not get the vibe that he is getting rich selling seeds. Look how much good work he has done with rene bejeeblahboo and the iboga therapy house and loretta nall and the legal stuff with high times clone magizines free speech rights in canada. Really, the list of good stuff Marc has been involved with is huge. Maybe he is personally an asshole, I dunno. But I trust his intentions are good.

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4481571 - 08/01/05 05:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You all think Marc is a millionaire that lives in a mansion with 10 cars from his seed sales.

You couldn't be more wrong he doesn't own a house he rents he has a single car on lease a extremely large amount of the money he has made with his seed sales goes right back into his fight against marijuana laws & protest rally's around the country.

Not to mention keeping pot-tv running & his magazine with also financially helping people that have been arrested for outrageous cannabis laws & need legal help.

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Does anyone know of any groups to join to show my support in drug reform?




http://www.norml.org

If you would like to help you can send donations to BCMP Bookstore at 307 West Hastings st. Vancouver BC V6B1H6

There will be a huge rally at the US Consulate (1095 W Pender) on September 10. This will be a major event with good music and fine cannabis for everyone. Be sure to attend this massive protest and make our voice be heard.

Take the time to call these three people and tell them how important it is that Canada not send Marc Emery to a US prison.
You can also write letters to the newspaper & call in to radio shows.

* Vancouver Mayor, Larry Campbell: 604-873-7621
* BC Attorney General, Wally Oppal: 250-387-1866
* Canadian Justice Minister, Irwin Cotler: 613-995-0121


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4482052 - 08/01/05 07:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Marc Emery is an asshole. His prices for seeds are outrageuos. He once threatened to narc on some of his complaining customers. What a douche.




First of all, he has over 600 strains to choose from, starting from $20-$600. you probably got your information from High Times, but Emery's seeds are in a good deal. As for you accusation of him threatening to narc on his complaining customers, I'd like to see some proof. Anybody can say anything. and btw you can get killer strains like God Bud and Durban Poison for $40 for 10 seeds.
And so what if he asks for donation, It's not like you have no freedom of choice.
And oh yeah, that "asshole" you call hooked me and my buddy up with so many things, favors and lots of buds for free. some assh0le eh.
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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4482067 - 08/01/05 07:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think yall are taking my 'Canada, grow a sac' comment the wrong way. I don't mean it against activist types or the typical Shroomery poster. I mean the government. For God's sake at least demand that your government doesn't allow America to treat you like the 51st state. I agree 100% that America is completely out of control and Americans need to get their own government in check. I think Jean Chr?tien governed Canada with a sac. Especially saying no to the Iraq invasion. I don't know much about Paul Martin but I hope he governs the same way. Chr?tien was also pro-decriminalization of weed. Sac. And you Canadians on the Shroomery are all cool so don't be so defensive. I think we want the same thing. If Canada needs to grow a sac then America needs to grow a brain.

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #4482572 - 08/01/05 09:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The reality of the situation is that there is very little that the Canadian government can do...even if they raised a big stink, nothing would happen. It's all just a bunch of politicians playing long dick with eachother, and nothing actually getting accomplished.
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    #4482614 - 08/01/05 10:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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The reality of the situation is that there is very little that the Canadian government can do...even if they raised a big stink, nothing would happen. It's all just a bunch of politicians playing long dick with eachother, and nothing actually getting accomplished.
The change needs to start in the U.S. first.




Dude, look at this quote again.

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Canadian police acting under orders from US officials raided the headquarters of the British Columbia Marijuana Party (BCMP) in Vancouver on the morning of Friday, July 22.




Canadian police taking orders from US officials on Canadian soil! Sure America needs to change but my point still remains. Canada is a sovereign nation not a state. Do you think France or Germany or any place in Europe would let America pull this shit? If the Canadian police are willing to take orders from the US then THEY NEED TO GROW A FUCKING SAC. It's not like America can do anything about it if they refuse.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #4483486 - 08/02/05 01:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Canadian police taking orders from US officials on Canadian soil! Sure America needs to change but my point still remains. Canada is a sovereign nation not a state. Do you think France or Germany or any place in Europe would let America pull this shit? If the Canadian police are willing to take orders from the US then THEY NEED TO GROW A FUCKING SAC. It's not like America can do anything about it if they refuse.




please tell me that your that ignorant. We showed balls by saying NO to your non-sense war and this continuing war on drugs, Canada can't really do much, seeing as how the Canadian government have so many important business ties with the US so pissing them off all the time wouldnt be good for the Canadian economy as a whole.
There are thousands of Canadians everyday, who stands up for their right and smokes a joint inspite of consequences.
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    #4483544 - 08/02/05 01:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Ask yourself this, what would you do if you were in our position?




If I was Canadian I'd encourage my government to tell America to get fucked and do everything I could to see that Canada becomes more distanced from the United States and more aligned with Europe.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: TheCheat]
    #4483592 - 08/02/05 01:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i betcha this has alot to do with the mad cow trade blockage mosh.
mad cow disease is all through the states as much as canada its just being used as leverage. oprah suggested this once and look what happened. she was made an example

my wife knew a guy that caught it in south carolina when she lived there.

his family was intimidated into scilence soon after they found out that their father died from eating beef.

that said, what she learned about it from doctors before they all stopped awknowlaging ever knowing about the patient is that it occurs often enough that just about evry hospital sees it in a year.

you dont hear about it tho.

now notice how evry single time, same week in fact. that canada made public the motion to decriminalize pot another mad cow was found with ties to canada?

i remember it because i was on mushrooms and saw the connections like they were etched out with etherial marker in the fabric or reason.

mad cow happens, like terrorism, its an effective hypnotic element of intengeble and ever present fear that a country can use as justification to impose sanctions, or declare war, to get whatever resource its really after.

in america, politicians want votes. conservitives know that getting votes means appealing to he christian right.
who like to hear that texas beef is reliable, pot is the devil, christians are being protected from muslim extremests who cant accept the love of jesus. etc.

politicians cannot and should not be trusted they are the brain center of a growing monster of a higher corruption.

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    #4483611 - 08/02/05 01:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

europe is not a sovreign nation
and after trying to hard to break free from it, sac growing wouldnt be accomplished by running back to mommy brittania.
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    #4483678 - 08/02/05 01:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think Canada should try to build closer ties with countries like Germany and France not the UK.

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    #4483711 - 08/02/05 01:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #4483978 - 08/02/05 03:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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maybe i should shut my mouth then




Man as far as I'm concerned we're 100% on the same side. Like minded Americans and Canadians need to stand together on this issue. In America, Marc Emery will be looking at ten to life. Ten to life. Let me try to put it in a way we can all agree on. 1) Americans need to insist that their government respects the sovereignty of Canada. The insane War on Drugs must be at least contained within our own borders. That is our responsibility as members of a democratic society. 2) Canadians must insist that their government holds a firm position against this kind of imperialism. Basically, we all need to agree that Marc Emery must not be extradited to the United States.

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BCMP Decries Loss of Canadian Sovereignty
by Kirk Tousaw (30 Jul, 2005) Help free Marc Emery from American tyrany


Imprisoned activist Marc Emery
Today the offices of the BC Marijuana Party, a registered political party in British Columbia, were caught up in a DEA-instigated raid. The raid is a dramatic example of the loss of Canadian sovereignty to the US drug war. The focus of the US drug war is marijuana, with over 750,000 annual possession charges laid and draconian penalties for possession, cultivation and sales of the plant. Until today, Canada took a different approach.

Unfortunately, the Canadian governement appears to have abdicated its sovereignty to the United States. Most Canadian (and, indeed, most Americans) do not agree with with the war on marijuana users. It is a dark day when Canadian municipal police officers are called upon to do the bidding of US masters.

This raid must serve as a call to arms. Canada is losing the ability to independently create its drug policy, despite reams of scientific and empirical evidence that prohibition is more dangerous than a regulated approach to cannabis distribution. The battle for freedom, equality and tolerance must be fought and won. We must not allow our Canadian way of life to be subjected to the whim of the US White House and its repressive policies.

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #4485577 - 08/02/05 03:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I hate to say it but I think the man is fucked personally. They wouldn't have gone through all the trouble to bust him if they weren't reasonably shure they could put him away. They spent alot of time investigating him before hand. My guess is they have all the evidence they need to convict him on conspiracy charges. The reason they busted him probably had more to do with his activism then it did with selling seeds. They are trying to silence him. They wan't to put pressure on Canada to change their policies about MJ because they feel threatened they are losing ground here in the states which is actually good news for us actually. I take back the nasty things I said about him earlier in the post.

I don't they will have any problems extraditing him, they probably already have a deal worked out with the Canadain authorities. He has already been indicted here from what I read in the article. I hate to say it but the WOD is going to get worse before it gets better. But it will get better.


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    #4485665 - 08/02/05 04:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What happened to his assets? Did they freeze them? And since he has financial ties with other court cases, is it possible that they are just exhausting the reform movement's resources?

If this is the case then it explains why they would do this over such bullshit.


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    #4485677 - 08/02/05 04:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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If I was Canadian I'd encourage my government to tell America to get fucked and do everything I could to see that Canada becomes more distanced from the United States and more aligned with Europe.




I think us, ordinary Canadians like me, only have the chance of making politicians change their politics as much chance as you, americans can convince your government to fuck off and try to solve the problems in their own country before screwin' with other countries.
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    #4486003 - 08/02/05 05:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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What happened to his assets? Did they freeze them?




Yes.

Pot-Tv & Cannabis Culture magazine will possibly be shut down in the next few months as of lack of funds.

Marc & the CC staff emptied there business accounts to get Michelle out on bail that was $25,000.

Marc does not own anything it was all leased.

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    #4486053 - 08/02/05 05:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #4486094 - 08/02/05 05:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

5 Things You Can Do To Help Marc Emery

Write to Canadian media

A letter which offers your opinion on American efforts to extradite Marc Emery.

NEWSPAPERS

National Post: letters@nationalpost.com
Globe & Mail: letters@globeandmail.ca
Vancouver Sun: sunletters@png.canwest.com
Vancouver Province: provletters@png.canwest.com
Victoria Times Colonist: letters@tc.canwest.com
Vancouver Courier: editor@vancourier.com
Burnaby Now: editorial@burnabynow.com
Calgary Herald: letters@theherald.canwest.com
Calgary Sun: callet@calgarysun.com
Edmonton Journal: letters@thejournal.canwest.com
Edmonton Sun: mailbag@edm.sunpub.com
Regina Leader-Post: letters@leaderpost.canwest.com
Guelph Mercury: editor@guelphmercury.com
Hamilton Spectator: letters@thespec.com
Kamloops this week: ktw@bcnewsgroup.com
Kamloops Daily News: kamloopsnews@telus.net
Kelowna Capital News: edit@kelownacapnews.com
Kitchener-Waterloo Record: letters@therecord.com
Kingston Whig-Standard: whiged@thewhig.com
Langley Advance: editorial@langleyadvance.com
Langley Times: newsroom@langleytimes.com
Lethbridge Herald: letters@ac403.com
London Free Press: letters@lfpress.com
Montreal Gazette: letters@thegazette.canwest.com
Nanaimo News Bulletin: edit@nanaimo.vinewsgroup.com
North Shore News: editor@nsnews.com
Ottawa Citizen: letters@thecitizen.canwest.com
Ottawa Sun: oped@ott.sunpub.com
The Saskatoon Star Phoenix: spnews@SP.canwest.com
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Winnipeg Free Press: letters@freepress.mb.ca
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Windsor Star: letters@thestar.canwest.com

MAGAZINES

Maclean's Magazine: letters@macleans.ca
Eye Magazine: eye@eye.net
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Vancouver Magazine: mail@vancouvermagazine.com
The Walrus: letters@walrusmagazine.com

Contact your MP and MLA

Remind them that Emery is the leader of a legitimate political party, that the Canadian government has knowingly collected taxes from his US seed sales for a decade, and that Emery has operated openly without interference from Canadian police since 1998.

You can find your MLA online here


BC: www.legis.gov.bc.ca/mla/3-1-1.htm
Alberta: www.assembly.ab.ca/adr/adr_template.aspx?type=mla
Saskatchewan: www.legassembly.sk.ca/members
Manitoba: www.gov.mb.ca/legislature/members/alphabetical.html
Ontario: www.electionsontario.on.ca/fyed/en/form_page_en.jsp
Quebec: www.assnat.qc.ca/fra/Membres/deputes.shtml
Newsfoundland: www.hoa.gov.nl.ca/hoa/members
Nova Scotia: www.gov.ns.ca/legislature/MEMBERS/index.html
New Brunswick: app.infoaa.7700.gnb.ca/gnb/pub/ListMLA1.asp
PEI: www.assembly.pe.ca/members/index.php

Call Irwin Cotler regularly.

Canada's Justice Minister is Irwin Cotler. It is largely his decision whether Canada will extradite Marc Emery.

* Irwin Cotler's Constituency Office: 514-283-0171
* Irwin Cotler's Parliamentary Office: 613-995-0121
* Justice Department Office: 613-992-4621

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    #4486127 - 08/02/05 06:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #4486366 - 08/02/05 07:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Me and Marc @ '04


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: TheCheat]
    #4487755 - 08/03/05 01:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

look hes contributing to your delinquency. :smile:


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4488545 - 08/03/05 04:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

we need a spammer to spamm all those email addy's ... i got the program if somone wants to do it


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: benrules92]
    #4488691 - 08/03/05 07:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

spam the rcmp
use some program that generates false tips from false address's about random crimes.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4489237 - 08/03/05 12:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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What happened to his assets? Did they freeze them?




Well, me and my buddy was just at BCMP a day after the raid happened. We stop by the seed desk where Greg (marijuana man) usually sits and instead, theres a sign "GO HOME DEA" and a bunch of box and tupperwares full of bcmp stuff. One thing for sure. The Seed Desk is temporarily out, but the store is still going.
And my buddy just informed me that the raid happened the day after he gave greg 15 seeds from the Philippines. Greg gave him 7 Cambodian seeds for good gesture. My buddy thinks that the Philippino seeds got confesquated =/
Me and my buddy just smoked a mango in Marc's 3 feet long glass bong for Greg and Marc!



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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4490296 - 08/03/05 04:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What Pisses me off is People that Don't Read and Bother to try and understand what they read Before they go OFF....

The bi-lateral law enforcement treaty (MLAT) that snared Emery and his compatriots is part of a controversial global American network of treaties allowing the US to use foreign police agents to investigate and arrest foreign citizens on behalf of the United States.

MLAT's help the US violate civil rights protections and other constitutional protections that would normally be afforded to citizens by their own countries.

The first US bilateral MLAT, between America and Switzerland, was entered into in 1977. The treaties are seen as a powerful tool of US foreign policy and hegemony, but have rarely been used against marijuana defendants. Dozens of countries have entered into MLAT's with the US since 1977; the treaties are seen as a way for US police and prosecutors to arrest people no matter where they live, even if they are not guilty of a serious or arrestable crime in their home country.

The MLAT treaties favor prosecutors and police, and make it virtually impossible for defense attorneys to advocate for clients snared by MLAT operations.

MLAT's have been criticized in other countries. Critics say US MLAT actions against foreigners violate international law, compromise human rights, and violate national sovereignty.

The Irish Human Rights Commission has complained about a US-Ireland MLAT that allows CIA agents to secretly question Irish citizens on Irish soil.

The MLAT signed by Irish Minister for Justice Michael McDowell and US Ambassador to Ireland James Kenny gives sweeping powers to US authorities operating in Ireland, including the right to seize documents, check bank accounts and carry out searches of property.

The Irish Human Rights Commission (IHRC) said it would be examining the agreement, which was pushed through with the promise that it would only be used to assist the US "war on terror."

Human rights activists in Ireland are particularly concerned that CIA interrogations of Irish citizens will be carried out in secret and that the costs of CIA operations in Ireland will be paid by Irish taxpayers.

The cross-border MLAT efforts sometimes involve enforcement of the United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances that was finalized worldwide on November 11, 1990.

It is possible that Emery and his associates would be charged with violating this Convention. In past years, UN officials have condemned Emery by name.

The raids leave many questions unanswered.

Marc Emery was Set up, Canada shares the Blame as Much as the USA does on this one. Ever sence the what 1977 there has been no Borders. New WOrld government around the corner..SHIT we live in it,,Bet load your Freaking GUNS BOYS.

Next time i hear some one call America the Next Nazi..I'm going to Shove a Shroom up your aRSE. Try your own Country on For size and see if the shoe Fits you Fags.

I love to Love...But I'm getting Tired of People and there Ignorance to the Topic of Discussion or to Life and what Being Free is all about. You sit around and Blame Each other for what has gone Wrong Rather then Knowing ONE thing...>WE this world are all on the Same Boat, And or Fathers of OUR time Have let the Youth of this World down. IT will take the Youth to stand UP Once again against Tierney ! But Stand Together as One mind not as a Bunch of Ass hats wanting to Start Shit !

Enough Si ad..Sometimes the Hum en Species Makes me Sick. Is people like Marc that Love more then Most that get the Shirty end of the Stick... But hay that's Life... I hope the people wake up... Very Very Soon Before its to late... Because the world is IN DEEP SHIT


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: TXNimrod]
    #4493498 - 08/04/05 02:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Those treaties exist, but it is really ultimately the native countries discrestion to go and do what they did.

Musta been DEA severly hounding Canada or something or holding something over the canadian governments head.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4499629 - 08/05/05 01:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Mitchnast said:
i betcha this has alot to do with the mad cow trade blockage mosh.
mad cow disease is all through the states as much as canada its just being used as leverage. oprah suggested this once and look what happened. she was made an example

my wife knew a guy that caught it in south carolina when she lived there.

his family was intimidated into scilence soon after they found out that their father died from eating beef.

that said, what she learned about it from doctors before they all stopped awknowlaging ever knowing about the patient is that it occurs often enough that just about evry hospital sees it in a year.

you dont hear about it tho.

now notice how evry single time, same week in fact. that canada made public the motion to decriminalize pot another mad cow was found with ties to canada?

i remember it because i was on mushrooms and saw the connections like they were etched out with etherial marker in the fabric or reason.

mad cow happens, like terrorism, its an effective hypnotic element of intengeble and ever present fear that a country can use as justification to impose sanctions, or declare war, to get whatever resource its really after.

in america, politicians want votes. conservitives know that getting votes means appealing to he christian right.
who like to hear that texas beef is reliable, pot is the devil, christians are being protected from muslim extremests who cant accept the love of jesus. etc.

politicians cannot and should not be trusted they are the brain center of a growing monster of a higher corruption.

the damned human race




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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: C20H25N3O]
    #4500474 - 08/05/05 04:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Okay schitzo.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4504130 - 08/06/05 05:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Aug 05

B.C. Marijuana Party leader Marc Emery has been released from the pre-trial centre in Port Coquitlam after posting $50,000 bail.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4504132 - 08/06/05 05:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'd go in hiding if I were him. If he goes through with the trial in the US he's just asking to get fucked over and go to jail for many years.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: barfightlard]
    #4504346 - 08/06/05 06:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

He is going to fight it all the way.

One BCMP admin said...

"I spoke with Marc a few minutes ago.
He is proud, resolute, fearless and ready to engage in the ultimate battle"


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4504862 - 08/06/05 10:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Marc Emery rocks.

You watch him put his money where his mouth is and fight this thing. Go Marc Emery.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: tomk]
    #4505193 - 08/07/05 12:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Marc's first post after he was released from the pre-trial centre in Port Coquitlam.

"Interviews have kept me busy, but I'm proud of all"

who have responded to this crisis/opportunity with donations, letters to the editor, contacts with politicians and other methods of girding up for the great effort to end marijuana prohibition.

I hope you, my loyal friends and soldiers in our struggle, are satisfied that I have conveyed the correct values of our struggle and that I am leader you are proud of, and to whom you can say is shoulder to shoulder with you in our great liberation movement.

I have been out of the jails for 27 hours now and will certainly post more in the days ahead.

Please understand that this very real possibility of me spending my entire life in maximum security federal prison in the United States is a tremendous opportunity to galvanize both Canadians' and Americans' understanding that tens of thousands of Americans are already in federal prisons throughout American for nothing more than growing our beloved and sacred cannabis. 5, 10, 15, 55 year sentences.

My wonderful friend Mike Smith, last March, was sentenced to 30 years in an Oklahoma prison for growing 200 plants! Something that the BC Court of Appeal ruled only last week should not necessarily exceed a conditional sentence of house arrest or fine when it reduced a 2 year sentence for a defendent who had 200 plants down to a conditional discharge!

That brings us the the underlying politics of this arrest.

No one complained to the Vancouver Police about me in 7 years! I had NDP leader Jack Layton in my home, was well acquainted with the Mayors, most members of Council, knew Senators and MPs, was completely transparent & open about everything I ever did, including the Canada Revenue Agency, which took my $400,000+ income tax payments (from the sale of marijuana seeds, as it was always explicitly understood, I personally had no other income ever) from 2000 - 2005, which then gave it to the BC Provincial government and the Canadian Federal government.

The leading and often exclusive voice for PROHIBITION in Canada is its police agencies, as everyone here who follows the testimony in Senate & Parliamentary Committees, TV debates about prohibition, etc. is aware.

They are losing the battle for the heart and soul of the Canadian citizen and voter. The voters and people are not buying prohibition. Support for legalization since I became prominent in 1994 has doubled for 26% to 57% today. They have been losing, and losing fast. The Vancouver Police, the BC Solicitor-General, other top cops and Police Association reps in Canada continually call for "longer sentences", a US-style drug war, and more pain, punishment, and prisons. The cry for bigger budgets, more military technology.

But Canadian police are in envy of their American brothers' sheer firepower and ability to rapidly escalate the decay and torture and intimidation of a full scale drug war.

So in eliminating my accomplishments, they think their mission is to stop this changing political landscape. Both the Canadian police and the DEA think that by eliminating me, they have eliminated the enemy's main supply & intellectual footing.

Canadian police have always been unhappy that courts will not send me to jail for seeds. They are unhappy the last two Mayors of Vancouver have called for legalization. One of them, former Mayor Philip Owen, was a very vocal prohibitionist who worked to eliminate me from the scene when VPD conducted the four raids against me from 1996-1998. He converted, and now is an articulate spokesman against prohibition. The Vancouver Police are unhappy that national leaders like Jack Layton came to my home and appealed for support.

So they knew they would not get satisfaction under Canadian law with Canadian courts and Canadian media, so they surely encouraged the DEA to help them accomplish what Canadian law and Canadian judges and the Canadian public would not do. The police engaged in treason. The VPD has invited the DEA onto Vancouver soil to facilitate what the Canadian establishment (the law, courts, media, & citizens) would not do: punish me severly. The VPD action is a calculated and deliberate subversion of everything Canadian in order to achieve an extra-judicial punishment (life imprisonment) to satisfy the political agenda of the Canadian police organizations. They could not achieve this result in any other way but to invite the US government in to secure a 'sentence' the VPD wants and that it cannot achieve through any Canadian institution.

The issues here are: Canadian sovereignty. The Vancouver Police must swear a loyalty oath, yet this clearly establishes that the VPD is not willing to abide by Canadian courts, is not willing to acknowledge Canadian law as supreme, nor can they even say they are to loyal any preception that is Canadian.

Now anyone who sells a gram of pot to an American on the street who is then foolish enough to take it over the border, can be extradited with 'conspiracy' if the police don't feel a Canadian court will adequately puinish that person. Tens of thousands of people who sell pot retail, wholesale, or in any way to an American who gets caught with it is now in some way in a 'conspiracy' to send pot to the USA. If the VPD or ANY Canadian police force wants you to experience long punishments that they cannot get in a Canadian court, these extraditions will become much more prolific.

Punishments in Canada and the USA for say, 100 plants, are radically disproportionate. For 100 plants in BC, it is a certainty there would be no jail; in Manitoba, up to 6 months; in Saskatchewan, up to 18 months, maybe at most. In the USA, 100 plants can bring years in jail, sometimes 5 or 10 years or three-strikes, up to 25 years.

Police are constantly expressing frustration with Canadian court sentences and are now extra-judicially making their first big move to do something about it, send problem 'offenders' to US justice.

Marc Emery

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: benrules92]
    #4511830 - 08/08/05 10:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, thas fucked up.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: nugsarenice]
    #4512264 - 08/08/05 11:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Right on tomk :grin:


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4513270 - 08/09/05 04:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

my name's not tomk , umm, :smile:


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: nugsarenice]
    #4521266 - 08/11/05 07:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Marc Emery "This is the most important show i have ever done"

http://www.pot-tv.com/archive/shows/pottvshowse-3919.html


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4522263 - 08/11/05 03:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Too bad the only way to view it seems to be real player. Im not giving them my CC# just so they can spam me and give me viruses fuck that. Anyone have a link to a streem thats not RP?


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4526216 - 08/12/05 02:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

you're not missing much... it's basically "i did this and that gave so much to so many and now i need your help *money*money*money* cuz i did this and that gave so much to so many and now is the time when everything goes down so NOW i need YOU and your money"

now don't get me wrong i totaly trust marc to have good intentiones and that this money WILL ACTUALY go to where it's supposed to but that video just sounds so shady...


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4535737 - 08/14/05 11:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

too lazy to dl rp too.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: nugsarenice]
    #4540360 - 08/16/05 12:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I move that we storm what ever jail he's being held in and break him out! All we need is tear gas, gas masks, tasers, and large clubs, maby some small explosives... You see if you want change in this world you have to steal it, just like Bush stole the last election, and just like the government steals our money so they can go steal somebody elses oil, and then sell it back to us. Think about it, almost no one payed taxes until WW2, and during that time the only reason was so we could fund a huge war, but then the war was over and they still have every one paying taxes. Thats simple theft.
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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: MyOwnReality]
    #4540573 - 08/16/05 01:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i heard of some guys try something just like that, now they all dead.
so i would think of some better ideas than that.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: nugsarenice]
    #4541303 - 08/16/05 06:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Haha a bunch of pot heads attempting a jail break. What a joke.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4541842 - 08/16/05 12:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Haha a bunch of pot heads attempting a jail break. What a joke.




I don't get it, why is that a joke?  JUST JOKING HAHAHAHA (I don't know what's so funny)  :lighter:


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4541953 - 08/16/05 12:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Cannabis laws in the USA are ridiculous!

He faces a 10 year minimum & a maximum of life oddly enough he is not charged with anything in Canada & would be a free man if the states dident interfere.





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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4545539 - 08/17/05 04:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, i guess you never seen nothin like that, or myownreality either... it really is'nt funny. the whole situation actually is'nt funny at all, but i guess if it was you in jail, you'd be laughin too , right?


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #4546899 - 08/17/05 03:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Check out http://www.emeryseeds.com and read about the "SCAM LETTER" that recent customers or would-be customers of Emery Seeds have been getting.

The letter claims to be from Emery, asking for additional money to be sent via Western Union. They believe the letter is really from the DEA, sent to return addresses on mail destined for Emery Seeds but held up at the border. Apparently Western Union, who checks ID and gets the address of anyone sending money, will help them crack down on some of the people who've ordered seeds recently. The letter even requests that people don't use PO boxes, but use their home address. Hmmm...

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Lazlow]
    #4549856 - 08/18/05 02:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

As a Canadian, I am VERY outraged by this. Cannabis aside, there is a greater issue for me here.

A canadian, on our own land was arrested by our own law enforcement on foriegn orders for breaking an essentially foriegn law, and to be judged and sentenced under foriegn law.

Canada's government has a responsibility to protect us being kidnapped by invaders. If the government can't protect it's own citizens, what good is it? Can I trust the Toronto police to PROTECT me from being arrested for breaking laws in Michigan when I'm still in Canada?

I see this as an act of war. I want justice.

I never thought Canada would be on the recieveing end of Amerika's oppression. Iraq got it, now we got it. Granted, Iraq got it hard, and without lube.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Minstrel]
    #4557229 - 08/20/05 01:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is truely sad :frown:
I always enjoyed opening Cannabis Culture and seeing the first few pages of the MARC seedbank :frown:


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    #4557570 - 08/20/05 03:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Let's hope Al Quaeda's next target is the DEA. If they were a big enough threat to their heroin business, it's possible. But I guess the DEA is too busy busting dangerous criminals like Marc Emery.


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: NosferatuMan]
    #5186574 - 01/16/06 12:45 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

any word on this dirty stunt?


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: rod]
    #5186606 - 01/16/06 12:54 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Oh my God, when will the Western world wise up and realise that there are so many more important things to be doing than arresting people involved with a fuckin' plant???  :confused:

Jesus Christ on a bike, it makes me so angry - it's all a fucking smokescreen (pardon the pun) to divert attention away from real issues.  Can I ask is there an election or anything going on soon in the States?

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    #5186613 - 01/16/06 12:57 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Nope, that would be the UK, trust me...

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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Minstrel]
    #5188848 - 01/16/06 10:46 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Not to mention he is the head of a viable Canuckistan political party...
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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: Dety]
    #11772357 - 01/05/10 09:05 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"The fact is, marijuana is a very dangerous drug," Sullivan said. "People don't say that, but right now in America, there are more kids in treatment for addiction to marijuana than every other illegal drug combined."

that's why establishing 18/21 years of age to smoke mj would be good,


tobacco is a dangerous drug, and the most addiction one, its main euphoric effects are addiction .  the withdrawal effects is addiction

I don't see kids getting treatment for tobacco addiction.

many kids are smart to get a start on twisting their genetics for premature birth by smoking cigarettes before they are 18 anyway...

if mj ever finally becomes legal , kids still won't don't share their mj with their parents .


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Re: BCMP RAID! MARC EMERY IN JAIL [Re: jack_flack]
    #11772444 - 01/05/10 09:18 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Cool thread necro bro.

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