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InvisibleTheHateCamel
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Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq
    #4470919 - 07/29/05 09:04 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

President Bush will not allow government funding for stem cell research because he fells that it is analogous to murder or is murder, yet he spent/is spending over three hundred billion tax dollars on a war?

Is that right?


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4471098 - 07/29/05 09:38 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

That's called logic. Don't expect anything the US gov. does to be based on that at all.


Edited by Anisotropic (07/29/05 09:38 PM)


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InvisibleTheHateCamel
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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: Anisotropic]
    #4471159 - 07/29/05 09:50 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I want to make sure I'm not missing something important here.

This is just blatant hypocrisy right?


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4471347 - 07/29/05 10:28 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

TheHateCamel said:
President Bush will not allow government funding for stem cell research because he fells that it is analogous to murder or is murder, yet he spent/is spending over three hundred billion tax dollars on a war?

Is that right?




No.

War is an acceptable action of a country. Allowing the murder of its citizens is not.

I can't believe I gave you a real answer. Did you get that idea from a lesbo's poster at a feminist rally? Impressive thoughts.


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4471382 - 07/29/05 10:33 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

no, its because he wants the religious institutions vote,(which doesnt make sense now that hes in his second term) he doesnt give a shit about the babies, he just wants a (relatively) good public opinion, if you were to ignore the whole war thing i mean

in all honesty, the stem cell research issue is the one thing that started my hatred for our government... i just dont understand it

and its not murder, i know its a baby, but in all honesty people are animals, these nuts need to accept that and let an unborn person take the blow for a thousand others who need the research done to save their lives, it doesnt make sense to me... and from what i understand now, they are mainly using the stem cells from the umbilical chord, or a very imature fetus (like a couple days) which i dont even see as a person.. more of a bacteria.. ugh

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That's called logic. Don't expect anything the US gov. does to be based on that at all.



actually a pretty good rule of thumb


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Edited by SerioOria (07/29/05 10:37 PM)


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: SerioOria]
    #4471391 - 07/29/05 10:34 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

SerioOria said:
no, its because he wants the religious institutions vote,(which doesnt make sense now that hes in his second term) he doesnt give a shit about the babies, he just wants a (relatively) good public opinion, if you were to ignore the whole war thing i mean

in all honesty, the stem cell research issue is the one thing that started my hatred for our government... i just dont understand it




Or that he thinks an embryo is a human being and deserves rights. But you summed it up real good at the end.


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InvisibleTheHateCamel
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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: looner2]
    #4477716 - 07/31/05 06:11 PM (12 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

looner2 said: War is an acceptable action of a country. Allowing the murder of its citizens is not.




Is this serious?


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4477965 - 07/31/05 07:28 PM (12 years, 21 days ago)

yeah...didn't you know...all those evil arabs are out to
get us, so it's ok if we murder them...just not the embryos.


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4478242 - 07/31/05 08:57 PM (12 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

TheHateCamel said:
Quote:

looner2 said: War is an acceptable action of a country. Allowing the murder of its citizens is not.




Is this serious?




Could it get any clearer, or better yet, more realistic? Have you been in reality lately?


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InvisibleTheHateCamel
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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: looner2]
    #4478251 - 07/31/05 09:00 PM (12 years, 21 days ago)

Congratulations, your grammar and further explanation was consistent with that of a child.


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4478349 - 07/31/05 09:33 PM (12 years, 21 days ago)

Are we in school?!


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4478524 - 07/31/05 10:24 PM (12 years, 21 days ago)

Wuz wrong with his grammar? What does that have to do with his comments? They seem pertinent. You're being ingorant, maaan...


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: Alobar]
    #4480625 - 08/01/05 01:20 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

Very rarely should you bother to question the logic of a Republican, Same can be said for Democrats.


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: bukkake]
    #4480801 - 08/01/05 02:22 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

Lets all be careful on the name calling and borderline flames, please.

(This is not directed at you, bukkake, even though I am replying to your post.)


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: Seuss]
    #4480811 - 08/01/05 02:25 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

Ah. I was talking about Bush, though. And our Republican and Democrat leaders in general.


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4480850 - 08/01/05 02:33 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

the human species is overpopulated as it is, war, disease, etc. is a natural cycle which has been going on since our inception. sorry if that sounds heartless but we're focusing on diseases when we can't even win the war on hunger and balance economy throughout the world.


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: soochi]
    #4481203 - 08/01/05 04:11 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

We can't win the war on hunger because the rich fat cats don't give a fuck. And a balanced economy in the US eyes is one where we are on the top.


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: Sycronica]
    #4482904 - 08/01/05 11:11 PM (12 years, 20 days ago)

The US spends more money on Stem Cell research than every other country in the world combined. I would think that in comparing it to the War on Terror, you liberals would be crying about "going it alone" in respect to stem cell research.

Why should US taxpayers shoulder the burden for Stem Cell research? Shouldn't you guys be consistent? Where are the French and the Germans and the Russians? We have 40+ nations involved in the War on Terror, how many nations have come together to fund our effort in stem cell research?

Under George Bush, the United States of America has spent more money on stem cell research than any other president. Under George Bush, America has spent more money on stem cell research than the rest of the world combined.

America has no law against stem cell research. You are free to do all the stem cell research that you want. The market for stem cell related products is projected to be in between 3-4 billion by 2015, and if successful it could grow exponentially. The US government invests in stem cell research, state governments participate in S-C research, private foundations and trusts give grants for it, prominent Universities actively participate in S-C research. And nobody that I have found can document the private sector, which will eventually be the engine when profit is involved.

If you want to redo your plumbing, rewire your house, or add an addition, you will need a permit from the government. You can do stem cell research tomorrow for free. Nobody is about to stop you.

It amazes me that so many people confuse the right to do research with the right to have the research that they want to do, and have that research funded by Joe Sixpack, the American Taxpayer.

If you want, you can give your own hard earned money to the charities and trusts that support stem cell research, or to the various non profit institutions and universities that perform the research. You will even be able to write that money off on your taxes.


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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: JesusChrist]
    #4483154 - 08/02/05 12:08 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

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JesusChrist said:
It amazes me that so many people confuse the right to do research with the right to have the research that they want to do, and have that research funded by Joe Sixpack, the American Taxpayer.

If you want, you can give your own hard earned money to the charities and trusts that support stem cell research, or to the various non profit institutions and universities that perform the research. You will even be able to write that money off on your taxes.



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Re: Stem cell research vs. Current war in Iraq [Re: JesusChrist]
    #4483193 - 08/02/05 12:15 AM (12 years, 20 days ago)

how will those charities and trusts procure stem cells when
their cultivation is outlawed and existing lines locked up?


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