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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: Soularize]
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So its a BAD idea to hunt in regional parks because rangers l' get chia?!
Why doesn't anybody tell me this?I live in Seattle and was wondering if Rangers hunt FOR YOU here in Seattle?!


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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Spreading the word at such a congregation is not a clever idea.

I remember my first time hunting on the coast with my father in law, flipping through his field guide at every inconsiderable mushroom I found. I became absolutely fascinated with mycology, waiting until my next paycheck so I could get a field guide of my own and a digital camera.

I set out early, spending day after day trying to locate healthy beds which had some promise to fruit. Every free minute I had I was crawling in and around shrubbery at local colleges, parks, and downtown installments. I drove for hours through the countryside looking for promising cowfields with reasonable access. I spent whole days online studying.

Autumn rolled around. It started to rain. I went out, day after day, week after week. Nothing. All dissapointment had befallen me. After it seemed impossible, I found my first P.Cyan patch, then my next, and my next, and so on. My heart was racing for a day. It was an incredible joy, I had accomplished my goal. I had put my mind to work and succeeded. I had devoted the previous 3 months 110% to it. While I could have been with my family, relaxing, sleeping, working more hours, partying, I was absorbed in mycology.

What does this story have to do with spreading knowlage about psilocybin mushrooms growing locally to the community at hempfest? It might prevent someone from having the joy I was able to have. It will flood our patches with even more uneducated teenagers looking to score some "mAgIc sHrOoMz yO", with no concern or regard to what it should really be about. There will be less avid and involved people looking to learn more about our earth and how things work. That's not what I want, I can't speak for the rest of our community, but telling the local highschoolers that magic mushrooms grow right under thier noses, and then giving them the information they need to carry out a destructive operation so they can "see some fucked up shit dude" is a wrong idea.

My two cents. I just think there are more appropriate ways to spread saftey awareness without starting a fad and attracting authority.

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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: ZippoZ]
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I have to agree with everyone who posted saying this is a bad idea.

the place to do something like the original idea would be at the PSMS fall mushroom show, where the people who show up are already interested/aware of mushrooms and willing to learn more about them.  but I doubt they would be down with letting someone hand out such fliers there, for many of the same reasons given above, and because it's generally more focused on edibles and common toxic species, not to mention they sell books there with all the information needed anyway.

I don't see any problem with handing out a flier promoting the shroomery and these message boards at hempfest, so that those interested can come and learn more.  but handing out fliers telling random people where, when and how to find and identify psilocybe mushrooms sounds like it can have a lot more negative consequences than positive.  as has been mentioned in this thread, I'm not aware of ANY recent record of cyan hunters in the seattle area being poisoned by eating galerinas, so it is really a non-issue.  Anyone who wants to put in some time reading and gathering information will have a successful, safe hunting experience.  I wouldn't say the same about someone who got all their info from a 5x8 black and white flier.  making a bunch of fliers with enough information and good enough pics to keep people from eating the wrong mushrooms would probably be more cash than whoever is funding this will be willing to shell out.  I definitely see a good potential for many of the wrong people to hear about our local mushrooms and how to hunt them.  If anyone is really interested in hunting psilocybes, there are many field guides and web sites (imagine that :smirk:) with clear pics and detailed descriptions of psilocybes and poisonous lookalikes out there, if people care enough to educate themselves on the subject.  if they don't, I don't think we should be encouraging them to pick wild mushrooms at all.

DH

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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: spores]
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I think everyone has a good point of view on this. I have run across teenagers (younger than me, Im only 19) that have destroyed beautiful patches of cyans and it makes me want to hurt them very bad.... but I don't. I learned that if I want to ensure the safety of my mushrooms patches, then I will put them where noone else can get at them. I still go elsewhere to hunt cyans and many other species of mushrooms in general, but I have my own patches of cyans and fields of liberties that noone knows about, due to the fact of who owns them, and noone else would be allowed to forage through this place without being shot. Uneducated hunters destroy our "world" if you will. I think spreading the word about the site is cool, so that anyone who is truely interested will take the initiative to study up can experience what others like ourselves do. I think that we will be successful in this area, but also be successful in arming retards and fags with information to ruin our hobby.


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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: spores]
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I don't see any problem with handing out a flier promoting the shroomery and these message boards at hempfest, so that those interested can come and learn more. but handing out fliers telling random people where, when and how to find and identify psilocybe mushrooms sounds like it can have a lot more negative consequences than positive.


Agreed.

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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: adrug]
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I would like to point out that hep mpfest is about hemp. Nopt about shrooms.

and there are already comparitive pictures of Galerinas and Psilocybe cyanescens posted here at this site and at mj's shroom world.

In the past thirty years, only a few reported instances occured of people accidently eating a poisonus mushroom over a psilocybe. The most famous case was the 16-year-old girl who picked, along with two teenage friends, specimens of galerina mushrooms thinking they were blue ringers (P. stuntzzi, P. fimetaria, P. sierrae, etc.).

There are two many differences w between the two mushrooms but a flyer is not necessary to id the differences in the species. P. cyans have a white stem which blues and galerinas do not.

P. cyannescens has no ring. Galerinas do.

Those are only a few differences.

And a shroom boot at the hempfest is cool only if it is handing out information but not specifically telling somoene how to break an existing law.

For thirty yers in this are, the police have been lax regarding mushrooms. Most never considered them to be drugs.

Even last year I again was also stopped by a secutrity guard and asked what I was doing.

parents do bnot want their kids doing drugs or shrooms for that matter. However, it is impossible to stop anyone from dioing what they want.

The point being is that you tell them both sides of the story.

Have them stick to liberty caps or blue ringers in a lawn.

That way they have less of a chance of poisoning theirselves or others.

I told one of the Shroomery members that i might spent an hour or two at the boooth answering questions, but I am not going to broadcast shroom sites for sources for mionors who should be getting an education before they should be getting an entheogenic plant substance which is more powerful then their brains.

PsillyGirl, @cro and Dh are right about their views in this matter.

And as for public places, remember it is even illegal to pick in public parks in cities. That includes flowers and leaf collecting.

Hemp is one thing, shrooms are another, and while they go good together at times, the hempfest should stick to hemp. I have already had some major problems with hempfest peopl over the selling of shroom related items at the fests and was even ask to leave one year when I went off the wall at the securtiy teenagers who told me I could not sell mushroom books at the fest, although I had the permission of both booths onthe right and left of me to put a blanket ont he ground. They even told me That I should take my donation back and leave the grounds.

So much for shroomy things.

And yes, the majority of the people who come are minors, and there are many police watching everyone.

So passing out flyers telling people how to distinguish poisonous shrooms from magic ones is not a good idea.

passing out a flyuer telling someone how to id an edible form a poisonous mushroom is a good idea, but thent he majority of people at the hempfest most likely are not interested in edible shrooms.

The safe-pik guide at erowid, shows iamges of both galerinas with P. stuntzii and with P. cyanescens.

They are also posted here in the shroomery's Ultimate shroom guide and in the mj site.

have a shroomy day,

mj

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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: mjshroomer]
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MJ has some very good points, as do all of us. I think his opinion has the most weight, considering his status and he actually has been at hempfest. I would really enjoy working at the booth answering any questions I could, but I think we should be open to *all* mushroom questions, but being very careful about *magic* mushrooms. So, say, if someone is asking us about it, we will not give them specific information at the time, but we can point them in the right direction for gaining the information they need to be safe, both by picking the correct mushrooms, and avoiding authorities by picking in areas where they will not be arrested, shot, etc.
We need to go about this in such a manner as to not draw attention to ourselves, and not to encourage (minors especially) people to pick magic mushrooms. Picking mushrooms in general to ID them and study them is the story we should stick to I think. We could explain different seasons, the difference in habitats between several dif species (edible or poisonous, *maybe* mentioning a psilocybe, but perhaps an inactive one?). I dont know, Im high, and rambling. I just want to be at the booth to help shroomery out. I have recieved much info from here, and met several people that I find very interesting.


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Our body is love, we are eternal.
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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: Psilygirl]
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Psilygirl said:
As a local can I please PLEASE express some legitimate concern?

I pick these specimens every year, and every year the local law learns more and more about them-- the extreme of which can be felt down by the SW coast for Azures.

Have you ever been to Hempfest? It is PRIMARILY high school kids--*****under 18***** and also FULL OF COPS-- the people who DO NOT need to learn about websites teaching high school kids how to pick mushrooms around the city.

Please think about these points, they are to be taken VERY seriously--the Seattle community is MY HOME and I'll be damned if this website f*cks up my local picking



Dearest PsillyGirl,

I'm so in love with you.

Lotus Loves,

Psiclops

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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: Psilygirl]
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I just hate the idea of drawing any more attention to the mushroom picking scene in Seattle than there already is, for the sake of myself and all the "old school" pickers  And i hope that concern is truly considered. I am certain that other PNW pickers will chime in soon 



:rolleyes:


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Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: Roadkill]
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Roadkill said:
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I just hate the idea of drawing any more attention to the mushroom picking scene in Seattle than there already is, for the sake of myself and all the "old school" pickers  And i hope that concern is truly considered. I am certain that other PNW pickers will chime in soon 



:rolleyes:


Agreed!


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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: BigBallZMaN]
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well im glad to see so many replies here, as for making the card up.... i think that we can pass on that for the moment. it does not sound like the greatest of ideas that i have had....

but feel free to chime in on this and other promotional thingies in the promo forum


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Re: A little help with the promotions, a cyan/lookalike id card [Re: ZippoZ]
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i don't have the time to read this entire thread, but i whole heartedly agree with Psilygirl and @cro.

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