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dunk and roll question
    #4465186 - 07/28/05 05:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

After I dunk my cakes do I just basically roll the whole cake in moist vermiculite? or just to a certain area of the cake? Does the vermiculite need to be sterilized? Can someone please help me out.


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Re: dunk and roll question [Re: marti131]
    #4465244 - 07/28/05 06:04 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Roll in dry verm, it sticks better. Then mist it. I dont steralize verm for the D&R, but it never hurts to go the exta mile. GL, Peace! :biggrin: Oh yeah, roll the entire cake.


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Re: dunk and roll question [Re: marti131]
    #4465246 - 07/28/05 06:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Actually if you want a random opinion, I rolled mine in dry verm. Dunno if it's right, but I've got aggressive myc taking it over and maybe making pins in my fruiting chamber. It wasn't sterilized or anything I just put the cake in a bag of verm and rolled it around after dunking it for 24 hours. I covered the whole thing. I dunno but so far it's working for me : /


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Re: dunk and roll question [Re: Pryme]
    #4473128 - 07/30/05 10:25 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the info, I will definitely try the roll part to see if I can get bigger flushes. Good to see things are working out for you Pryme. peace


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Re: dunk and roll question [Re: marti131]
    #4473139 - 07/30/05 10:45 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

someone told me and my friend said it works well.....once the cake is dunk put it straight into the dry verm so all the excess water gets suck up by the dry verm...then mist a little if u have to


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Re: dunk and roll question [Re: marti131]
    #4475125 - 07/30/05 11:53 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

We're close but here we go.

When I wrote the dunk and roll tek I said to roll it in dry verm, the reason is that it sticks to the wet cake better. Then mist it down gently so the verm is moist. the reason the moist verm is there is to give the shrooms more moisture to draw from.

Remember folks just cause it's a cake there is no reason a dunk and roll can't be done with coco coir also, or as usual a mix of the both of them.  :thumbup:


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Re: dunk and roll question [Re: Magash]
    #4476730 - 07/31/05 11:11 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Do you dunk and roll after the first flush or as soon as you birth it??


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Re: dunk and roll question [Re: ixitwistedixi]
    #4476743 - 07/31/05 11:17 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I think most do it only after birth, but I have seen 2 people who do it after every flush, get great results. Takes a little longer everytime you roll, the mycelium has to get through the verm, but when it does, pinset and size should be increased..moisture=good.


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Re: dunk and roll question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4476747 - 07/31/05 11:19 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

What if you just dunk after every flush? That way Myc. doenst have to reform and you still get moisture?


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Re: dunk and roll question [Re: ixitwistedixi]
    #4476750 - 07/31/05 11:21 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Dunking definatly should be done after every flush, I was speaking only of rolling..and the time delay would probably be about 2 days..not much, just a few days for the myc to grow through the layer.


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How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: dunk and roll question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4476762 - 07/31/05 11:29 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

If you keep rolling, will the new myc. spreading throughout the new verm. flush indefinately since your constantly growing new myc.?


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Re: dunk and roll question [Re: ixitwistedixi]
    #4476780 - 07/31/05 11:42 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Your not growing new myc. Thats like saying when a person gets taller, they're growing a new body. Its just an extension of the already existant mycelium, "growing up". Even the mushrooms that fruit from the mycelium, is just a body of the same mycelium, just a different body part.

So no, it wont flush indefinatly.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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