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Consumerism conditioning #1
    #4460079 - 07/27/05 02:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey, its laundry day....and what does that mean? oh, you have worn everything you have ONCE already....so, everything MUST be dirty.

Now, I am no hippy, but washing your clothes after ever use is kind of ridiculous. My clothes dont stink after one use, unless i have been sweating all day. Underwear, i can understand, because no matter how cold it is in a room, have balls will sweat.
Tide, Downy, Snuggles, and the copious amounts of other detergents, dryer sheets, and bleach manufacturers, have through advertising, convinced and conditioned the majority of America to believe that 1 usage of clothing = dirty.
Now, if you make a stain on your clothing, most people wish to remove it by washing, that is understandable....
Many times, I will wear the same clothes back to back days, even though I take a shower in between, yet people still make that snarling face and ask "werent you wearing that yesterday?"
There is nothing un-hygenic (word?) about wearing your clothes two days in a row.
Now eventually, your bodily oils will eventually deem the shirt or pants "dirty" or "stinky", which then washing is needed, but not this once usage shit.
Laundry cycles put a lot of wear and tear on your clothing, not to mention fading and whatnot. This cycle creates more consumerism through "i need new clothes, mine are all faded, but im not going to throw them out, it will just be my work shirt".... so now, you go buy more clothes, but throw none out, and eventually laundry day gets bigger and bigger, you need more bleach and detergent just to damage those clothes, so you wont throw them away and buy new ones.

more to come....


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Re: Consumerism conditioning #1 [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4460119 - 07/27/05 03:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't buy this, I think people probably created this social norm on their own. Why? Because I've never seen any laundry advertising that said anything about how often you're supposed to clean your clothes.

I think you're quite right, in most cases it's fine to wear something more than once before cleaning it, but I don't see any evidence that the reason people think otherwise is due to advertising.


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Re: Consumerism conditioning #1 [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4460128 - 07/27/05 03:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

this is true.  :thumbup:


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Re: Consumerism conditioning #1 [Re: moog]
    #4460400 - 07/27/05 04:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you know, you are right about the advertising, in a way. I dont think any company would come right out and say "you need to wash your clothes every usage, buy Downy", but more like "keeping your clothes Downy fresh" with pictures of nice happy families hugging their freshly dried towels. Once that perfumed smell of "Freshness" is gone, we deem them dirty.
Perfume used to be exclusivly just bottles of smell-nice. Now the perfume companies have foudn there is a much bigger market making toilet paper scents, manufacturing smells to give an implied, but false sense of freshness, cleanliness, or newness.
It is as if we have grown to dislike our natural scents, and when a shirt smells like "you" and no longer has that field of flowers summertime fresh douche smell.

But , lets as well, discuss why we as a society would bring about this conditioning upon ourselves if my conspiracy theory is in fact just a product of me being high...

but now I want to ask....why did this conditioning come about? or why did we create this?


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Re: Consumerism conditioning #1 [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4460536 - 07/27/05 05:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think all social norms have really clear cut reasons behind them, it's simply based on perceptions. The fact that someone advises people to wash their underwear daily could be enough to create this idea.

"Well, I'm supposed to change these daily, must be the same with my pants..."

Or a few neurotic people who had this opinion that passed it onto others.

I'm not sure that people use scents more often now than say, 100 years ago, we certainly use different ones, but I don't think that having scented items is something all that new.

I'm not entirely sure that it's all that bad either. Trying not to smell too much like "yourself" may seem a little abnormal, but I don't see it as a big problem.

I think perfumes have improved quite a bit over the years... the perfumes that old ladies wear are the ones that they wore back when they were young, and they tend to smell like baby powder. As long as perfume's smell is subtle, I think it can be really nice.

It's certainly a lot different from the way we lived before civilization, and there are some people who seem to feel that anything frivolous or that serves no purpose other than aesthetic is somehow immoral, but I disagree.


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Re: Consumerism conditioning #1 [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4460615 - 07/27/05 05:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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why did this conditioning come about? or why did we create this?




My best guess is that this dislike of our natural smell, and the idea that our bodies are dirty whether we sweat or not, goes along with the general rejection of the body.

Civilized humans (especially females) generally believe that their bodies are animalistic and need to be hidden, shaved, deodorized, surgically perfected, bleached, tanned, powdered, lifted, separated, girdled, etc...etc...


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Re: Consumerism conditioning #1 [Re: Veritas]
    #4461016 - 07/27/05 07:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Veritas said:
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why did this conditioning come about? or why did we create this?




My best guess is that this dislike of our natural smell, and the idea that our bodies are dirty whether we sweat or not, goes along with the general rejection of the body.

Civilized humans (especially females) generally believe that their bodies are animalistic and need to be hidden, shaved, deodorized, surgically perfected, bleached, tanned, powdered, lifted, separated, girdled, etc...etc...




your words are eloquent


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Re: Consumerism conditioning #1 [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4461024 - 07/27/05 07:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, I am with you on this. The more often you wash your clothes the better it is for the industry. Somewhere I did read, they also dispose some of their waste inside their washingpowder. It also speeds up destruction of nature with the waste and pollution of clean water. In poorer countries also the pollution of nature.
This all speeds up seperation of man from nature, which is all of the benefit of the industry and the corrupt politicians.
Ah, yes, and all the chemistry also speeds up the developement of allergies (for example) in humans, too. Very beneficial for the medic industry...another large corruption-post in politics.


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Re: Consumerism conditioning #1 [Re: Phluck]
    #4461035 - 07/27/05 07:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Phluck said:
I don't buy this, I think people probably created this social norm on their own. Why? Because I've never seen any laundry advertising that said anything about how often you're supposed to clean your clothes.

I think you're quite right, in most cases it's fine to wear something more than once before cleaning it, but I don't see any evidence that the reason people think otherwise is due to advertising.




I agree. You can wear things more than once, but the detergent industry really has no input here. I've never seen anything to convince me that they feel this way.


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Re: Consumerism conditioning #1 [Re: freddurgan]
    #4461100 - 07/27/05 07:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Just because there is ball sweat in your underpants doesnt mean they are no good to use!

You get used to the smell and unless you are dating who cares?

Lol :smile:


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Re: Consumerism conditioning #1 [Re: Arp]
    #4465152 - 07/28/05 05:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Arp said:
Just because there is ball sweat in your underpants doesnt mean they are no good to use!

You get used to the smell and unless you are dating who cares?

Lol :smile:




:argh:
thats nasty
:lol:


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