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Offlinehydr0420
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VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** UPDATED
    #4457259 - 07/26/05 10:16 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Okay,
Little background.
These casings are 4pints of rye cased bottom&top with 50/50 verm/coir.
The jars colonized just fine no problems, the casing material was pressure cooked for and hour and a half. There are 11 of these casings all showing similar growths, some more than others.
They are fruiting in a 36" Martha closet. This is the first time i have used the martha closet, and all the tubes/pipes were brand new. A coolmist is running 24/7, and an ultrasonic for 15min every 4 hours. It keeps 91-93% RH quite fine. Temps are between 74-78.


I birthed them about two weeks ago, and finally last week started to get knots/pins. They were growing VERY slowly, and today i notice that they are looking like FREAKS.
Here is a pic of one of the casings from far back. This is Hawaiian strain.

closer

Extreme Coseup


As you can see, alot of the pins arent growing heads, and some are growing FLAT with multiple spots where i would imagine a head should be.

Here is a pic of a PF strain casing doing similar.


As you can see, the casing can still produce a normal looking mushroom, but a mojority of them are mutants from hell.
I've never had a problem like this before.
Any suggestions on what it may be?
thx
-dr0

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Ok guys, got some more pics of the fucking weirdos today.





So the weirdos continue to grow! Along with new normal pins/shrooms.
This is going to be interesting.


Edited by hydr0420 (07/27/05 09:08 PM)


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: hydr0420]
    #4457372 - 07/26/05 10:41 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

That antler mutation is F*ing wierd!


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: Dragonaut]
    #4457389 - 07/26/05 10:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Did you accidentally get lysol on them? I heard that lysol can cause some mutations.


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: Liquidkick]
    #4457397 - 07/26/05 10:48 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

No lysol on them, i actually think its from all of the plastics being brand new, so hopefully it will go away next run. I really just wanted to share the weird pics and see if anyone had any other theories.
-dr0


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: hydr0420]
    #4457568 - 07/26/05 11:16 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

look familiar? no lysol here, but it's in plastic PMP, which is old.



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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: hydr0420]
    #4457582 - 07/26/05 11:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

You crazy freak what have you done to my spores.  :confused:  I got the prints from these and have done several batches of them. Leave it to Hydro  :rofl2:  :laser:

:dj:

I had some PR do that....Hmmmm could I have mixed up a syringe or two .....naw naw...had to be you.....  :tongue:

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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: Magash]
    #4457948 - 07/27/05 12:53 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

if you ask me you just can't grow for shit.. Don't give up your dayjob.


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #4459049 - 07/27/05 07:44 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Hey maybe if your lucky they will be uber potent :P that is pretty freak keep the photo's coming I'd love to see how they turn out.


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: hydr0420]
    #4459136 - 07/27/05 08:55 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

hydr0420 said:
No lysol on them, i actually think its from all of the plastics being brand new, so hopefully it will go away next run. I really just wanted to share the weird pics and see if anyone had any other theories.
-dr0




... this is why i was worried about ftalates. if weird shit goes over into the mushies... its double plus bad.


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: hydr0420]
    #4459260 - 07/27/05 09:56 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Have they been exposed to either petroleum-based products, or to disinfectants (not just lysol)? Both commonly cause mutations.


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: OJK]
    #4459391 - 07/27/05 10:46 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

No disinfectants.
Like i stated in my first post, all of the components to make the martha were brand new. Brand we plastic closet, brand new plastic tubing, and brand new pvc pipes. The Chains and shelves are also plastic/rubber coated. So, Im thinking all of this together made for a nice mix of some sort of harmful petroleum-based atmosphere.
If these flush im going to spray the whole setup down with alcohol and wipe it down, then a good washing out, to get rid of all traces hopefully.
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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: hydr0420]
    #4459530 - 07/27/05 11:34 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

good idea, I would guess that its the new setup as well.


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #4459781 - 07/27/05 01:01 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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if you ask me you just can't grow for shit.. Don't give up your dayjob.




I love you, will you have my children?
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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: hydr0420]
    #4459844 - 07/27/05 01:26 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

If you ask me, that shit doesnt look like cubensis. And I've had trays before, a pan cyan tray, which was pan cyans...then cubensis shrooms took over the tray before the first flush, cubies sprouted up all over the casing, but a pan cyan did too...this may be what happened here...they looks really fucking weird...I dont think I'd eat them...check and see if they turn blue.

Also you got way to much moisture covering the primordia/pins.


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4460915 - 07/27/05 07:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

mine didn't blue, not a bit on any of the little "flowers"... they did have gills though


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: Nashbar]
    #4460922 - 07/27/05 07:08 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Nashbar, your pic definatly doesnt look like a cubie, but do look like some sort of fungus...I think the same happened to you.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4461052 - 07/27/05 07:41 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Could it be sclerotia (sp?) of a cube or other fungus? Don't really know what sclerotia is...


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: Nashbar]
    #4461320 - 07/27/05 09:11 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

omg what happend 2 them mushies


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: Normlizer420]
    #4462530 - 07/28/05 02:04 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

>could it be sclerotia

No. Cubes dont form sclerotia, and its nothing like that..


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: **HELP** VERY WEIRD Mutants in Martha Closet **PICS*** [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #4462564 - 07/28/05 02:12 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

fuzygrowth said:
if you ask me you just can't grow for shit.. Don't give up your dayjob.




Well, since no one asked you, maybe you should stfu.


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