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Bulk Withou The Straw or POO
    #4452555 - 07/25/05 10:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

OK so when going bulk one mite use a 70ltr sterlite tub and pasteurize straw/poo then add layers of spawn and straw/poo till there are about 5 - 6 inches of compressed straw/poo in the tub.

Well you get some bad ass results doing this, but what if... What if instead of using straw or poo I did 5 - 6 inches of 100% grain?

i would think that the results would be outstanding. I'm going to try it after I get my new P-Cooker. No way PC'n 3 pint jars at a time till I have enough grain to fill a 70ltr sterlite container up 6 inches :grin:

What do you all think? has it been tried?


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: Fungi_x]
    #4452638 - 07/25/05 11:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

*intrested* :tongue2:


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: D4NK]
    #4452706 - 07/25/05 11:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If you could keep the contams out long enough it would prolly work, but i dunno, i havent seen anywhere on here where it has been done. Most ppl will just tell u to do poo :P


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: Fungi_x]
    #4452740 - 07/25/05 11:37 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If you was in a 100% sterile clean room, and you wore a bio suite, and the tub stayed in a sterile room, with sterile air exchange i dont see why it wouldnt work. :shrug:


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: Psychoslut]
    #4452751 - 07/25/05 11:39 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

SWEET! *runs off to get biosuit, etc*
I would think that poo would have most of the nutrients removed considering it has already been digested? Although I know this isn't true, why is it so nutritious? Other than compost, there has to be other good bulk substrates other than damn shit! Maybe not, but one can always hope!


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: D4NK]
    #4452761 - 07/25/05 11:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

That hardly seems worth it, just use the poo.


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: D4NK]
    #4452788 - 07/25/05 11:49 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Probably the main reason we use the poop for bulk is because of the contam rates. Digested grain that has firefang and junk living in it contams allot less than un-digested grain and grass :shrug:


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: Fungi_x]
    #4452876 - 07/26/05 12:10 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Sure, it's feasible, but it won't yield as well as poo. Do a side by side comparison and let us know.


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: Psychoslut]
    #4452885 - 07/26/05 12:12 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

No, you cant just spawn grain the same as poo. You will end up with contams guarenteed. You could PC a whole shit load of jars, and inoculate them using spores, a LC, or G2G trasfers (or a combo) and then case them together (as long as strain is the same)..but you will be losing out on yield going that thick. Stick with 2 inches for the best yield/amount of substrate, or 3-4 inches if you really want, 6 is to much IMO though. Youd be better off doing 2 or 3 tubs. All in all, its a bitch to prep that much grain and it just aint that worth it..

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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4452916 - 07/26/05 12:18 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

For sure a normal person would get contams. How could a scientist with a sterile room, sterile tub, sterile grain culture jars colonized and not, sterile everything get a contam?

Sterile is sterile imo.

Unless im not thinking of something. (most likely)

I know that spawning a big tub of grain is worthless, and there is no reason to do it. But he asked if you COULD spawn some grain in a tub like a poop bulk


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: Psychoslut]
    #4452934 - 07/26/05 12:21 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Because he wanted to know for practical purposes, not to be an arguing dick. As I said It CAN NOT be done the SAME as poo...poo is covered with foil or saran wrap with holes in it, there are no precautions taken to be sterile when incubating it, not just spawning it. If you think it can be done, prove it, until then, bite me.


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4452971 - 07/26/05 12:31 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Im honestly not being an arguing dick. I know that grain cannot be done the same as poo using all the same methods as poo.

But if some retarded scientist in a lab had a hair on his ass that wanted to spawn sterile grain, with colonised grain, in a tub bulk style, could he do it?

My intentions was not to try and say yeah great idea everyone should spawn grain in open air just like poop cause it will work the same, and ill prove it.

I never said that.
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: Psychoslut]
    #4453190 - 07/26/05 01:03 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

The question was can you do the same with grain as poo or straw. The answer is no.

Of course since the only problem is contaminates, if you hypothetically kept everything sterile from all contaminates..then logic would say that yes it would work.

When I say "It wont work the same as poo, it will contam" And you say "Why, what if its a scientist in a lab", your trying to be an arguing prick.

Doesnt surprise me coming from you though, not in the least...why you bother coming back just to get your post count up and post a bunch of crap that does no one any good?


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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4453602 - 07/26/05 02:25 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I think some of you are confused a little. All the jars ARE going to be 100% colonized. I believe this is safer then using poo or straw because the shit colonizes in a closed jar.

So with that said, there is little worry of contams. now the question that remains is, is there a limit to how thick the grain can be? Is there a already known depth were grain yields the most? If anything I would think there would be more flushes and maybe bigger fruits.

Unless their is a desired depth of sub. I'm just looking for big mushrooms and lots of flushes.


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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: Fungi_x]
    #4453642 - 07/26/05 02:33 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

As I already said, I have no confusion, psychoslut just likes to try and find an argument and went off course. As I told you, IF all the jars are colonized, yes you can do this. I also told you that 2 inches is the best depth for best yeild per substrate. Of course you can go deeper, 3-6 inches...but youll be better off with 2-3 containers compared to 1 with a big thick substrate. Thicker the substrate, bigger the shrooms though. But big shrooms arent good for yield. And most people dont like them either, stupid myths about small shrooms being more potent..


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
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Re: Bulk Withou The Straw or POO [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4457165 - 07/26/05 09:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Kind of off topic, but if i was to colonize wgbr in a pint jar, could I either break the cake up or cut it in half before casing to help the yeild? Would it hurt the cake at all if I was to do this? Main reasons being yeild and the fact that I want more out of my first flush.


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