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OfflineBlueCoyote
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Re: God Bless America [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4455080 - 07/26/05 10:44 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

[Oops. To Hue:]
Right, and by definition, it is only the g*d of jews. (Ask someone who reads the talmud about this, if he dares to share)
I mean, that's the same intention. Why should g*d 'bless' america only, where most of americans are christians (not jews) when christ tells 'love your enemy' ?
That's some exclusivilty the 'new' (and [I think] also the pre-talmudian) g*d does not know... He wants, that all people will live together in peace...
I would understand a sticker like 'God bless you' or something like that...


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Re: God Bless America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4455097 - 07/26/05 10:52 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
It must be noted that by "ridiculing the idea that a divine being would bless a specific area within man-made geopolitical boundaries" you are ridiculing the core beliefs of thousands of people world wide of varying religions. There are many Christians and Muslims who have exactly that viewpoint....if not why would "God Bless America" have ever been written.




Personally, I'm pretty sure that number is definitely at least in the millions, but I feel that it doesn't matter how many people hold a core belief - if the belief is baseless and ignorant, than it deserved to be called as such. However, I wouldn't personally "ridicule" someone for having such a belief, as a direct result of the understanding of the nature of perspective and how it is formed by experience. Essentially, it isn't their fault. :wink:

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Re: God Bless America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4455107 - 07/26/05 10:56 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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I do think the notion of God blessing anything is ridiculous...




Ridiculous - deserving of ridicule. :shocked:

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Re: God Bless America [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4455121 - 07/26/05 11:00 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, and the worst bumpersticker that I ever remember seeing that is in this same kind of vein was God Is Pro Life.. :smirk:

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Re: God Bless America [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4455170 - 07/26/05 11:14 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

short and incendary
but not suicidal.


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Re: God Bless America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4455224 - 07/26/05 11:28 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

If you are not incorrect in your assumptions, please point out where I begrudged someone, as you indeed claimed.

Also, you claim that millions believe America is the blessed land?

Can you support this?

Last time I checked, the "blessed land" was a bit to the east  :smirk:

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Re: God Bless America [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4455227 - 07/26/05 11:29 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

WHere do you get a Cthulhu fish...I need one?


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Re: God Bless America [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4455237 - 07/26/05 11:30 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

"Ridiculous - deserving of ridicule."

Maybe I used the wrong term then...howabout "incorrect" instead. I do not wish to ridicule anothers religion even if I do question it.


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Re: God Bless America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4455257 - 07/26/05 11:34 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
I do not wish to ridicule anothers religion even if I do question it.




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Re: God Bless America [Re: spud]
    #4455276 - 07/26/05 11:39 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I do not have to support my opinion...it is OPINION. Opinion does not require support. Only statements of fact require support. You are welcome to ignore it. I based my opinion on your snide and intolerant tone and content. If you dislike it, take solace in the fact that it is only opinion.

"Also, you claim that millions believe America is the blessed land?"

I never said that. Read it again.


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Re: God Bless America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4455289 - 07/26/05 11:42 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
I do not have to support my opinion...it is OPINION. Opinion does not require support. Only statements of fact require support.



:lol:

So they whole field of theoretical science doesn't require support?

That statement you just made is wrong on so many levels.

You make a great Christian though, I'll give you that.

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Re: God Bless America [Re: spud]
    #4455313 - 07/26/05 11:49 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

My opinions are NOT science so they require no factual support...they only require that I intuited a bad attitude on your part towards the bumpersticker bearers. Do you really think I am a Christian? You haven't read many of my posts yet. Before you talk about how wrong I am stop saying that I said things that I clearly did not say. How can I be right or wrong when you don't know what I said.


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Re: God Bless America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4455314 - 07/26/05 11:50 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, I also don't want to ridicule anyones beliefes :thumbup:

But something came into my mind... isn't "God Bless America" said by an American not like "God Bless Me" ?
Hehehe, that's the most cruel sticker of them all :laugh:


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Re: God Bless America [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #4455322 - 07/26/05 11:53 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

My God already did bless me. That is why I am always right.


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Re: God Bless America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4455343 - 07/26/05 12:02 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You crack me up.

I'll leave you with this: Making opinions based on no support is the definition of ignorance.

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Re: God Bless America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4455351 - 07/26/05 12:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
I do not have to support my opinion...it is OPINION. Opinion does not require support. Only statements of fact require support. You are welcome to ignore it. I based my opinion on your snide and intolerant tone and content. If you dislike it, take solace in the fact that it is only opinion.




Absolutely absurd. If you wish to be taken seriously whatsoever, you will realize that opinions should be backed up if not by fact, than at least by reason.

Not doing so lumps you into the same category as tin-foil hat-wearing conspiracists and alien abductees.

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Re: God Bless America [Re: Redstorm]
    #4455353 - 07/26/05 12:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Redstorm said:
Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
I do not have to support my opinion...it is OPINION. Opinion does not require support. Only statements of fact require support. You are welcome to ignore it. I based my opinion on your snide and intolerant tone and content. If you dislike it, take solace in the fact that it is only opinion.




Absolutely absurd. If you wish to be taken seriously whatsoever, you will realize that opinions should be backed up if not by fact, than at least by reason.

Not doing so lumps you into the same category as tin-foil hat-wearing conspiracists and alien abductees.



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Re: God Bless America [Re: spud]
    #4455360 - 07/26/05 12:08 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Absolutely absurd. If you wish to be taken seriously whatsoever, you will realize that opinions should be backed up if not by fact, than at least by reason.

Not doing so lumps you into the same category as tin-foil hat-wearing conspiracists and religious fanatics on both ends of the spectrum.




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Re: God Bless America [Re: Redstorm]
    #4455361 - 07/26/05 12:08 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I did give reason, but it was ignored. I said tone and content.


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Re: God Bless America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4455371 - 07/26/05 12:09 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You should really consider converting to Christianity.

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