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OfflineSmallworlds
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So look here, what is their real plan?
    #4449996 - 07/25/05 12:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

O.K., they blew up two of our biggest buildings on 9/11/2001..then the Patriot act to harvest the power from it...now re-instating the Patriot act...

...But will it be enough to get rid of our civil rights, or will there have to be more bombings?

In my opinion, if they ever lost the momentum they created on 9/11, and Americans lose interest, they'll either fail in their plans, or there will need to be more attacks.

So, how can they be stopped?

I think I know why the LSD pipeline was turned back on a bit earlier than planned.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4450026 - 07/25/05 12:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

They won't need another attack so long as they can keep us in constant fear of another one. I think that the infringements on our liberty will have to get worse before it gets better. I suspect it will eventually reach a breaking point, where the people finally decide they've had enough. Hopefully it won't be too late by then.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4450048 - 07/25/05 12:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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They won't need another attack so long as they can keep us in constant fear of another one.




That's what I'm saying. Time heals all wounds, and Americans might not "forget", but they'll forget the fear they felt.

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I think that the infringements on our liberty will have to get worse before it gets better.




I think that there are definite plans for it to get "worse".

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I suspect it will eventually reach a breaking point, where the people finally decide they've had enough. Hopefully it won't be too late by then




I'm not so optimistic. I think that if we are not fully-conscious, and at the breaking point by now, it may already be too late.

Except, there's LSD


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4450053 - 07/25/05 12:31 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Smallworlds said:
I'm not so optimistic. I think that if we are not fully-conscious, and at the breaking point by now, it may already be too late.



We've been through worse times before. Do a google search for "Alien and Sedition Act".


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4450070 - 07/25/05 12:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
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Smallworlds said:
I'm not so optimistic. I think that if we are not fully-conscious, and at the breaking point by now, it may already be too late.



We've been through worse times before. Do a google search for "Alien and Sedition Act".




The Patriot act of the day eh? Yes, but I see better organization this time around.

And a clearly laid plot.

It's no longer a reaction to a foreign government, but a reaction to a small group of people we call...terrorists.

These "terrorists", could have been selected to work with hidden organizations to engineer the current state of events.

Read: "Illuminati".


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4450132 - 07/25/05 12:57 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I suspect it will eventually reach a breaking point, where the people finally decide they've had enough. Hopefully it won't be too late by then.




I think it's already too late. They have control beyond any previous govts wildest dreams. And the people are way too engulfed in the material world to notice as it falls out from under them.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Sycronica]
    #4450161 - 07/25/05 01:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

But then there's LSD :whoah:


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Sycronica]
    #4450178 - 07/25/05 01:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I suspect it will eventually reach a breaking point, where the people finally decide they've had enough. Hopefully it won't be too late by then.




I think it's already too late. They have control beyond any previous govts wildest dreams. And the people are way too engulfed in the material world to notice as it falls out from under them.



See, this is what pisses me off. On the one hand, you have people who aren't the least bit concerned about the erosion of our civil liberties, but on the other hand you have ignorant statements like this from people who have no sense of perspective. This isn't Nazi Germany. We still have it pretty good compared to most places, even many first-world countries.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4450192 - 07/25/05 01:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
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Sycronica said:
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I suspect it will eventually reach a breaking point, where the people finally decide they've had enough. Hopefully it won't be too late by then.




I think it's already too late. They have control beyond any previous govts wildest dreams. And the people are way too engulfed in the material world to notice as it falls out from under them.



See, this is what pisses me off. On the one hand, you have people who aren't the least bit concerned about the erosion of our civil liberties, but on the other hand you have ignorant statements like this from people who have no sense of perspective. This isn't Nazi Germany. We still have it pretty good compared to most places, even many first-world countries.




when did i say we didn't have it "pretty good"? I see no evidence whatsoever to think that we are going to all of a sudden the majority of the public is gonna stand up and decide they've had enough. I don't see that EVER happening. Because no matter what our govt does they will spin it so the old people think they are doing the right thing.

And anyone that DOES stand up, will be labeled liber crack pot or junkie drug addict. Or whatever label they feel like blasted you with on the 8oclock news to descredit you and then no one will listen to a damn word you have to say. Sorry if I fail to see your calvery on the horizon.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Sycronica]
    #4450203 - 07/25/05 01:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

This statement...
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They have control beyond any previous govts wildest dreams.



is the ignorance I was referring to. You're right to be concerned, but those concerns need to be grounded in reality, not hyperbole.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4450226 - 07/25/05 01:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

So you think hitler had more control then our current rulers have? What about all the modern technology hitler never had access to that we currently have? Do our pilots have problems bombing a city their mother could live in? O well, send the robot plane to do it. No human conscious to worry about. Or is that fantasy to you?


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Sycronica]
    #4450233 - 07/25/05 01:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:wtf:  Lay off the crack pipe, dude.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4450242 - 07/25/05 01:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry, I don't use drugs that will just leave me wanting more 5mins later.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Sycronica]
    #4450249 - 07/25/05 01:31 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well, perhaps I can suggest a different drug. Have you considered lithium?


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4450263 - 07/25/05 01:35 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

All natural here...worst thing I ingest is alcohol, which has current fallen out of favor with me.

But seriously, I think if we could peak into the classified files of our govt no claim would be too far fetched. And as they become declassified you start to see this. The people aren't going to stand up, they will hug their 401k's to the end.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Sycronica]
    #4450272 - 07/25/05 01:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I don't doubt that the FBI has all sorts of information about many people. But if you think they have a tighter grip on us than Nazi Germany, then I seriously suggest reading some history.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4450296 - 07/25/05 01:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

It's a mental grip, rather than a physical one. That way they get to maintain the illusion of freedom while they do their dirty-work, and set the infrastructure in place to be supposedly un-stoppable.

Then the curtain falls on America perhaps.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4450308 - 07/25/05 01:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)


Read: "Illuminati".


Read: "No evidence, all paranoia disseminated on the internet"

There's not better organization, or a more clearly laid plot.

There's just a worldwide system of discourse where people fabricate conspiracies based on their stoned fantasies.

What the hell is LSD supposed to do? Is it going to magically make violence go away?


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Smallworlds]
    #4450313 - 07/25/05 01:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

just wait until the oil wars begin or some other
global conflict.

these catalysts, in conjunction with their new
controls will allow them to more easily exact the
police state.


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Re: So look here, what is their real plan? [Re: Sycronica]
    #4450328 - 07/25/05 01:50 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)



And anyone that DOES stand up, will be labeled liber crack pot or junkie drug addict.


Not if they provide actual evidence. A bunch of made up things about the illuminati and bullshit about the government orchestrating 9/11, backed up with things that only seem suspicious when looked at in a certain context is not evidence.

Other than a bunch of people who aren't even physicists explaining why the twin towers fell in a suspicious way is just a load of bullshit. Claiming that since the government had warnings about terrorism they would have a) known everything about the attacks and b) been able to do something about them isn't evidence. It's speculation.

It's a big fantasy built up around some very flimsy circumstantial evidence. And when you try to criticize the evidence, they don't want to listen to you. Most people don't care about actually finding evidence, they spend their time justifying the flimsy evidence they already have instead of actually looking at their own ideas critically.


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