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 Dead Shaman
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 San Pedro Preparation 
#444922 - 11/02/01 03:48 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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The last few nights my 16'' San Pedro has been telepathically communicating to me through my dreams that it wants me to eat it.
Well who am I to resist, so anyway I was wondering if anyone would like to share their preparation methods.
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jonnyshaggs420
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Dead Shaman]
#445029 - 11/02/01 05:28 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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What I usually do is take the cactus, stick it in a blender with some water, and liquify it all. Then pour it all into a pot, add more water to make it not as thick, kinda watery. Then add the juice of at least two lemons, or if your me just use a whole one of those little plastic lemons with lemon juice in them. Boil for a good 30min-1hr, depending on your preference. Then strain, and squeeze the excess water from the cacti pulp. Gather enough courage to overcome the horrible stench, and drink it down. Its best not to just slam it, 'cuz that can cause cramps, but alternatively drinking it slowly is a lot harder to handle. I usually drink it while still warm, but you can chill it or freeze it and consume that way. This way it tastes just like acidic vomit. Mmmmm. But it gets you where you wanna go.
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 Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Dead Shaman]
#445840 - 11/03/01 04:04 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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wouldnt the interior of the stem break the inside of the blender? My friends cactus has a very woody center.
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jonnyshaggs420
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You may need to chop the cactus into small peices and blend them a small bit at a time. It will break down the woody core, but it may take time, and you should do it in small batches to avoid burning out your blender motor.
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Dead Shaman]
#446376 - 11/04/01 04:22 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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i'd first chop the cactus up into ~1" thick 'stars'... then cut off each of the 'arms' and throw away the circular core (it is reported to contain only trace amounts of the mescaline, which is what you want)... then take those 'arms' and blend them with a little water.
boil that blended mix up for a while and strain with cheesecloth or something to get rid o all the nasty pulp... blend some more if you want and chill. jonny - how can you drink that shit warm... it's puke-licious even when it's ice cold... arghh! the taste is not fun, however the effect is quite 
o yea, when you're blending it, add some sugar and either vitamin C powder or lemon juice to tone down the utter nastyness of the beverage.
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Learyfan
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Doesn't it make you deathly ill to eat the whole thing?
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<br>Why wouldn't you take out the psychoactive parts only?
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Edited by Learyfan (11/17/24 08:26 AM)
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 Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Learyfan]  1
#446703 - 11/04/01 02:00 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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First off, I've never heard of anyone becoming "deathly ill" from eating the whole thing. Maybe if you ate the spines, ouch. I've only heard of people vomiting for awhile, but given the taste of this concoction and the nature of mescaline, its gonna happen anyway.
Second of all, with this method your not eating the whole thing. You blend it in a blender, add water and lemon juice[/b} (important), boil, strain and drink the liquid only. The lemon juice serves to aid in making the alkaloids in the cactus soluble in the water. Its a simple acid extraction. Your not consuming the whole cactus. Just the alkaloids, and some lipids. And it doesn't make you "deathly ill", trust me I know. You will probably vomit though, if you don't you are one strong mofo indeed.
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Sounds pretty easy Johnny. Thanks for the directions.
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Edited by Learyfan (11/17/24 08:27 AM)
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 Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Learyfan]
#446979 - 11/04/01 06:34 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a 2ft long section of san pedro..... these are the steps followed so far
1. Remove the waxy outer skin and de-spining
2. removing the core and white flesh, leaving the green layer and a small portion of the white flesh... the pieces are about 1/4 inch thick
3. I have laid the pieces out to air dry
this how far i have come....... my next step is to completly dry out the cacti pieces (possibly with low heat in the oven)
1. grind into a powder with a coffee grinder
2. drink it down with some water
any advice concerning this method .... or speculation on how long it will take for the catci pieces to air dry???
also does heat damper the potency of the cacti??
thanx
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Anonymous]
#448099 - 11/05/01 07:11 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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That juice is the worst taste I have ever, Ever, EVER tasted in my entire life.
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 Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Dead Shaman]
#452334 - 11/08/01 10:24 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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well i tried air drying my san pedro....for a couple of days and then constructed a dessication chamber... the cacti ended up growing mold and smelling hella bad....
so i tossed my cuttings and....now starting again...
I had planned on drying the cuttings and grinding them...
this time i believe i will try the boiling preperation.......I do believe this will dampen the potency...????
and i could not find a ceramic pot...an aluminum (one will have to do... :(
any suggestions or advice would be helpful
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Anonymous]
#452450 - 11/09/01 12:46 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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What kind of desiccant did you use? Was it the color indicating kind?
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Anonymous]
#452463 - 11/09/01 01:00 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Boiling won't hurt the mescaline (infact, it's tough enough that you could probably have dried it out in the oven with no loss of potency), just make sure you do two or three extractions to yank out as much of it as possible.
Why not use a large stainless steel saucepan? Even if you have to do it a bit at a time...the conventional wisdom says not to use aluminium -- nasty reactions with the acetic acid in the lemon juice or something...
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Anonymous
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how much lemon juice would i add to a sliced and diced ready to be blended 18in specimen????
so you add the lemon juice and water then blend correct?
oh yes and the dessicant i got was dri-z-air
thanx for ur help
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Anonymous]
#454389 - 11/10/01 08:08 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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What, you gonna just blend it with lemon juice and swill it down?
Leaf
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: ]
#455234 - 11/11/01 06:14 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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san pedro is the most ucky, nasty, horrible, liquid i think i have ever consumed.....
i have come to the brink of hurling 5 times
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Anonymous]
#455550 - 11/11/01 11:33 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Only five? I had to fight the vomit with each and every swig.
If you wanted to dry it out, you could always use the oven. Mescaline is not broken down as easily as other compounds when subjected to heat.
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Anonymous]
#455563 - 11/11/01 11:45 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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"san pedro is the most ucky, nasty, horrible, liquid i think i have ever consumed.....
i have come to the brink of hurling 5 times"
hahaha, doesn't sound too good twisted, did you get a buzz at least?
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DazedSol
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I always use the above methods.....but instead of drinking the vile liquid, I boil it down to a paste then bake the paste in the oven on 200 till it becomes brittle enough to powder....then I stuff them in pills....
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: DazedSol]
#460424 - 11/16/01 11:54 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't mean to sound like a sicko, but it really doesn't taste that bad. The slime factor sorta bugs me. Chase it with Squirt!
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: DazedSol]
#462820 - 11/18/01 10:01 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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What length of cutting is your common dosage?
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: un0r]
#482783 - 12/07/01 07:13 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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^^^^^ my question too
im wondring how much mescaline per cubic foot is contained in san pedro
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Mighty Bop]
#485825 - 12/10/01 09:18 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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That juice is the worst taste I have ever, Ever, EVER tasted in my entire life.
That juice is fresh cool lemonade on a hot summer day compared to either peyote or ayahuasca.
Toughen up if you are going to be a true entheogen explorer!
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 Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: un0r]
#497340 - 12/20/01 09:02 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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i was told that a person should eat about as much as the lenght of their forearm, elbow to wrist.
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MeltingPenguin
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: YouInfoIt]
#515087 - 01/09/02 02:58 AM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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i was told that a person should eat about as much as the lenght of their forearm, elbow to wrist.
which is exactly the same length as your foot, believe it or not!!!
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stefan
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my foot is smaller
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: stefan]
#515280 - 01/09/02 09:54 AM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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You've got small feet, huh?
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: superpimp]
#564699 - 02/27/02 09:52 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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and u know what they say about guys with small feet...hehehe...
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Planet Asia]
#565476 - 02/28/02 03:10 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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they wear small socks...
try alot of that blue-rasberry lemonade kool-aid mix. good stuff.
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: felix]
#567448 - 03/02/02 12:28 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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A food dehydrator is the way to go as far as drying..Takes about two days though.but it should be brittle rock hard...? what do you bake the resin down on so its easy to scrape every last bit up on,,Aluminum foil?..Then pack into caps..Done this with dried powdered plant but not resin yet....Check out this link to a fast way to fill many caps for under 20 bucks.....http://www.jomarlabs.com/capem.asp
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just a thought, as i have never tried cactus, and my san pedro seeds dont wanna grow. but here is an idea that might work??? instead of using water, use everclear alcohal. do it just like you said, blend it up, strain out the plant matter. then put in a pyrex pan, and let the everclear evaporate. scrape up the residuals, and put em in a few capsules. wouldnt this work?
now i have a question....remember i never messed with a cactus. i am planning on buying a cutting ( or trading a salvia plant for it ) how do you cut some off for consumption, with out killing the plant?
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: ChromeCrow]
#567691 - 03/02/02 11:52 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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As a crude extract I suppose that could work. The addition of lemon is to convert the mescaline to a salt form, that will be more easily absorbed by the body, resulting in a quicker onset and less lost material.
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cool, possibly add the lemon w/ the everclear. i was just trying to help out on the "nasty taste"
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: ChromeCrow]
#588088 - 03/24/02 12:12 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here is the method I used recently. It worked great, the trip report is posted in the Spirituality and Philosophy forum under a thread called Psychedelic Healing.
I started by cutting about 13 inches of stalk off of the cactus. A pretty hefty amount of plant material for one dose. I had read many preparations that involve despineing and skinning the cactus. But I soon realized that chopping up the cacti whole was much easier and less time consuming. From what I read the end product should be no different.
Then the cactus was chopped like a carrot into small pieces, then placed in a blender with a little water and ground into a pulp. The frothy liquid was poured into a large pot along with about 4oz of lemon juice to help extraction. This mixture was then boiled lightly for about 25 minutes. After letting mixture cool it was poured through a T-shirt cloth to filter out pulp. Liquid was saved and pulp replaced into pot along with more water and lemon juice. The process was repeated two more times to make certain extraction was complete. All three liquids were combined into one. I froze the liquid overnight. The next evening I decided boiled the mixture down to about a coffee cups worth of liquid.
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Dead Shaman] 1
#590883 - 03/27/02 09:31 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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iv done is this way a couple of times and worked fine, no puking or nothin.
-take the cactus and chop it to sections (i cut them to about the size of my palm).
-get the transferant plastic-like foil off and de-spine with a knife.
-put in the freezer overnight. this brakes down the cells make the crushing part much more easy.
- take the frozen pices and start grinding them (u can let them sit for 15-20 so it'll be easier). i use a regular hand grinder (like u use to grind cheese or vegtabels, jusr a metal reqtangular with holes)
its a bit cold on your hands but berable.
when i grind them up the grinded stuff start to de-freeze and turn to a slimy, geenish, semi-liquid goo.
when u get to the woodish core, throw it away.
-after grinding it u need to dry it. i just put it on a large piece of tin foil (do it from two layers, so i t wont tare) and make as much surface area as possible. then u can put it in the oven for about 3 hours, stiring it once in a while. or just let it stay in the sun, but that take days (about 3-6 at mid summer, and its very hoy here in mid summer).
if u do decide to put it in the oven, dont put it in higher tempeture than 150 C, otherwise the goo will lose potency.
after it has all dried out ur left with powder a brown-greeniush powder.
the last times i used it i, or pur it in milk and drank it all up (not for the weak hearted) or put it in some dairy yougurt eich is terably grose...
to consume this powder is a harsh job, but i didnt puke from mescaline ever.
i now have these two cactuses and i think ill do this proccess, but also do an alcohol extract at the end. it'll make life much easier.
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 Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: Swami] 2
#29026731 - 11/17/24 03:11 AM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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I eat it like cucumber I don't give a shit what it tastes like, it's all good.
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Re: San Pedro Preparation [Re: ktukavkin] 3
#29029974 - 11/19/24 07:30 PM (2 months, 5 days ago) |
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Be welcome, ktukavkin!
You've just unearthed a 22 years old thread!
Thanks for your input anyways!
FH
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