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Mazatapec notes - Bioassays
    #444815 - 11/02/01 02:02 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: World Spirit]
    #445034 - 11/02/01 05:37 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

There are also variations in baeocystin(sp?). The combo of the three can change the feeling the trip may give.


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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #445238 - 11/02/01 09:45 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

And also Guzman's other alkaloids - nor-baeocystin and aeurginicine... :-)


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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: World Spirit]
    #445370 - 11/03/01 01:19 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

When I ate 2 grams of home grown mazatapec's I didnt get the slightest of their effects.. I mgiht as well have eaten portobello's =(

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: Jared]
    #445816 - 11/03/01 03:26 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: World Spirit]
    #446015 - 11/03/01 07:28 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

They are my fav's great visuals...

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: Jared]
    #446144 - 11/03/01 10:06 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

im trying to grow them now - but ive heard whispers that this strain is a poor yielder...


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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #446350 - 11/04/01 03:10 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

>but ive heard whispers that this strain is a poor yielder...
Hmmmm....

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: Anno]
    #446378 - 11/04/01 04:31 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck! I take that back!! :-) Have you bioassayed them??


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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: Anno]
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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: Zen Peddler]
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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: World Spirit]
    #446434 - 11/04/01 07:53 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Of the strains my born-to-be-wild camel has ingested, mazatapecs have been his favorite. Potency as such, is comparable to other strains, but the deep spiritual experiences, to him, is the most marked feature of this strain. Ingesting them and going out among nature - trees, birds, animals - is a beautiful experience. My camel will never look at a tree or a dog or a plant's seed the same way again. I know from several posts on this site that these *appear* to be Ryche Hawk's personal favorite - at least, he too emphasizes the spritual aspects of them.

The notion that they are low-yielding is absolutely not true. They are as simple/difficult to grow as other traditional cubies.

My camel, in turn, wonders if OTHER Mexican strains are as spiritual as these are, as has been rumored. He has no doubt remaining that Maz are very spiritual; he has heard that all Mexican strains seem to be that way and he wonders if that is the case.



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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: cantara]
    #446447 - 11/04/01 08:26 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: World Spirit]
    #446454 - 11/04/01 08:42 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

That's a valid question Enter - I would refer you to the first 2-3 replies to this question in this post. A few psychoactive chemicals in psilocybin mushrooms are identified; there are believed to be other potentially active agents not yet identified, and furthermore, in every strain of psychoactive mushrooms the levels of these three vary, which I guess results in different experiences.

I was very happy to see this post from you, because something I have been trying to elicit reaction from for the LONGEST time was to ask those in the community who have personally bioassayed a number of different strains (or at least more than one), to compare their general experiences with those of others. You can never express even a fraction of what you feel during a trip, but generally, was it spiritual? Was it energetic? Was it dark? Was it psychoanalytical? Was it humorous? Etc......my thought is that this community is very valuable and we should be able to use our numbers as a strength to form some kind of consensus on what kinds of overriding experiences different strains produce, and how they vary from strain to strain. So far the response has been really minimal, which saddens me.



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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: cantara]
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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: World Spirit]
    #446491 - 11/04/01 10:16 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Maz is one of my friends personal favs too. Extremely visual/spiritual, everytime he took them it was a very memorable experience. He's never gotten better visuals off of cubes. Wondering how the other mexican strains are? He'll try them someday.

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: World Spirit]
    #446530 - 11/04/01 11:06 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Ya there really great good all around.
I have other strains I could compare them with Like Thai Ks Equador.
Theres a different vibe for each.

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: World Spirit]
    #446582 - 11/04/01 11:47 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Yes I have spiritual beliefs but I don't beilive I said the Maz's are spiritual in this thread....
But to answer your Question they make me feel real happy Really uplifted and they have awesome visual to go along with the Supremely peaceful vibe. Great all around not the easiest thing to put into words..However since you really seem intersted in em I suggest you try em yourself.
As for other strains I'll give you a vibe description...
The Thai ks are quite strong and speedy but not really a powerful expierence in a visual sense. Don't get me wrong you do get visuals just not real heavy eye candy.It's mostly a body trip and They don't last that long"the effects" Although they seem like they do at the time.
Not very experienced with Equador but I can say they are more potent and much more visual.They got legs. Also a good vibe and eyecandy galore stronger than most cubie's.
I still like the Mazatapecs though...
Maybe someday I'll get some more experience with the Eq's

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: World Spirit]
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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: psilocyber]
    #446631 - 11/04/01 12:46 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

they are very nice just my hubble opinion very visual and colorful

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: Sporecloud]
    #446808 - 11/04/01 04:16 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

I was very impressed with the flushes I got, The shrooms were very nice healthy specimens, I dunno why they didn't fuck me up though.. =( Everyone else who tried them tripped balls.

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: Sporecloud]
    #447083 - 11/04/01 08:22 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry guys - i wasnt speaking from personal experience - just what people have told me...A few guys have just got genetically fucked up isolates - but that can happen from any strain


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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: psilocyber]
    #448825 - 11/06/01 09:48 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Anno, and Psilociber,
Could you please give some details for the Maz in your pics? Substrate, enviroment etc.
I have excellent pinsets, but my Maz only get about 3" tall, and are quite skinny and weak printers.

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Re: Mazatapec notes - Bioassays [Re: snowman]
    #448949 - 11/06/01 12:04 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Could be a bad isolate...

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