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Offlinestrl
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A quick hunt in the city park EDIT: Need help with Panaeolus ID
    #4446739 - 07/24/05 12:28 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

After a nice rain yesterday, I wanted to go hunting in the mountains today, but it didn't work out. So I gave the local park a shot.
The hunt was rather short because it begun raining again, but I found me a couple of nice Panaeolus specimens. Here they are:




The spore print appears to be black:



The spores have a lemon shape and group together very nicely:


Here are a couple of 1400x shots taken with the camera put close enough to the microscope:



This baby seems to be Panaeolus Papilionaceus.

Here are some other mushrooms that looked interesting but i can't ID even to genus:




Well that's all for today. Let's see what the next week will bring me.


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Edited by strl (07/31/05 05:26 PM)

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OfflineChickenNugget
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Re: A quick hunt in the city park [Re: strl]
    #4446886 - 07/24/05 01:36 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Thats nothing active, but a very beautiful sporeprint.


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InvisibleBoondock
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Re: A quick hunt in the city park [Re: ChickenNugget]
    #4447210 - 07/24/05 03:27 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

nice micro shots !!


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Re: A quick hunt in the city park [Re: Boondock]
    #4447483 - 07/24/05 04:47 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Yea beautiful pictures. I espicially love the microscopic ones, you don't see many of those!
Take care

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Invisiblemikonn
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Re: A quick hunt in the city park [Re: strl]
    #4447513 - 07/24/05 04:56 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, very nice, especially the micro. You say you took those be placing the camera up to the eye piece? Did I understand that right?

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Offlinestrl
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Re: A quick hunt in the city park [Re: mikonn]
    #4448524 - 07/24/05 09:17 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

thank you guys!

mikonn,
yes, that's how i took the micro shots -- using a cheap point and shoot camera placed up to the eye piece of the microscope. I didn't expect this to work very well, and was pleasantly surprised with the end result. Of course having a camera "natively" coupled with the microscope will give you much more spectacular shots, but for the moment, this is the best quality I can produce.


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Re: A quick hunt in the city park [Re: strl]
    #4452695 - 07/25/05 09:25 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I like the microscope pictures! I want a microscope now too--I have a guide with detailed spore info.
I think your orange fungus is Dacrymyces palmatus. I think I have found it too. When I first saw it I thought it was pieces of mandarin orange that had been discarded by the hiking trail.
The puffball could be Calvatia craniiformis. I have been finding them this spring in Japan.
Wallace


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Offlinestrl
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Re: A quick hunt in the city park [Re: wallace]
    #4461925 - 07/27/05 09:51 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Wallace,
If you go shopping for a microscope, make sure to check what camera mating options it has (if you plan to make microshots, of course). The setup should be really straightforward if you have the proper model.
BTW, what's the guide you own? Is it still in print?
Oh, and thanks for the ID help. I think you are right about the orange mushroom. Not sure about the puffball though.


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Invisiblewallace
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Re: A quick hunt in the city park [Re: strl]
    #4463485 - 07/28/05 05:14 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Hi strl.
I am thinking about getting a microscope, but I want to be sure that the one I buy is going to do what I want it to. I have never looked at spores under a microscope, so I can't answer that question yet. All I can say is I tend to be too cheap when I make purchases like this, and then regret it later.
BTW, are you sure you have Panaeolus Papilionaceus? Could it be P. campanulatus? How big was it? With pap., you should have some lateral cracking on the cap with mature specimens. And papilion is active here in japan, hence the name "laughing mushroom" though it is said to be weaker than subbalteatus. I have never seen one.
My guide with spore detail is Japanese. Not sure if it is available in the Balkans or not!


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Offlinestrl
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Re: A quick hunt in the city park [Re: wallace]
    #4463688 - 07/28/05 07:51 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Wallace,

My bad about the ID. I actually identified the Panaeolus as Campanulatus at first, but got confused by this page:

http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Panaeolus_papilionaceus.html

which lists Papilionaceus and Campanulatus as synonyms.
According to Stamets, there has been an overall confusion between P.Papilionaceus, Campanulatus, Retirugis, and Sphinctrinus, as the species are very similar. It seems that we have a Campanulatus here, not Papilionaceus, but I can't be so sure anymore :smile:
Anyway, I wouldn't eat a mushroom that grows in a park here, it'd be way too toxic.

Regarding the microscope choice: I don't have a microscope either, so take my advice with a grain of salt. But anyway, make sure to get a binocular microscope. If you are looking for a cheaper brand, you can check the Chinese microscopes Novel. Here in Bulgaria you can get their HSZ-N207 for well below $700.


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Offlinedmgc4
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Re: A quick hunt in the city park [Re: strl]
    #4463690 - 07/28/05 07:52 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

awesome pics

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Re: A quick hunt in the city park [Re: dmgc4]
    #4477947 - 07/31/05 05:25 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Bump

I feel really lost here. Is this Papilionaceus or Campanulatus?
Could please some expert help me out?
I don't have the knowledge and the resources to ID this mushroom to species.. and it is well known that Panaeolus is really hard to ID.

Thanks in advance!


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