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OfflineMighty Bop
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Substrate Strength Comparisons?
    #4442832 - 07/23/05 02:02 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

All I have had so far are BRF shrooms. How would you compare the strengths of various substrates? For example, how many dry grams of fruits grown from rye would equal to BRF? And what about poo?

3.5 dry grams BRF shrooms is roughly the same as:

?? dry grams rye shrooms
?? dry grams straight WBS
?? dry grams WBS with poo
etc.

Thanks for any input. I know BRF are probably the weakest, just trying to get a more accurate comparison here....


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Re: Substrate Strength Comparisons? [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4442856 - 07/23/05 02:05 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Edited by memes (10/17/12 06:52 PM)


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Re: Substrate Strength Comparisons? [Re: memes]
    #4442863 - 07/23/05 02:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You are probably right, but someone must have some kind of experience with this.


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Re: Substrate Strength Comparisons? [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4442893 - 07/23/05 02:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

This is ONLY a very rough guess, theres NO way anyone could answer this any where near precisly though, but to give you a rough idea...

3.5grams BRF=2.5-3 rye/wbs=1.5-2.5 poo/compost

* Results may vary. Void where prohibited.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Re: Substrate Strength Comparisons? [Re: memes]
    #4442904 - 07/23/05 02:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Here are my two cents on the difference in substrate recipes for self-fruting substrate jars:

Standard PF tek in Pint Jars (16 grams)



PF tek supplemented with bee pollen, dung, and yeast IN 4 OZ JARS (33 grams)



As far as I can tell the potency in the latter recipe was much higher as well. Maybe this doesnt help but don't knock BRF...good stuff.


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Re: Substrate Strength Comparisons? [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4442921 - 07/23/05 02:15 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

you are asking an imposable question.
but i can tell you, if you step up to casing your yields will double at the vary least.
and, once you try poo there is no turning back :smile:


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Re: Substrate Strength Comparisons? [Re: Spores_101]
    #4442937 - 07/23/05 02:17 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks scatman. Yeah BRF is great. It has never failed me :thumbup: What I am having a hard time believing is that shrooms grown off white rice are completely useless. I don't know how that could be.


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Re: Substrate Strength Comparisons? [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4442960 - 07/23/05 02:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Well let me tell you, I've had shorroms, my roommate ate off straw, ate 5 grams...I dont know why this batch was so weak...but he had a mild buzz. And I know its not cause he can handle his trips cause two girls tripped with him, and they had never tripped. The girls also only had a minor buzz and the giggles. Well I grow up some poo shrooms and I told them not to eat much, so they eat 3.5 each :rolleyes:, and all three of them are nuts, my room mate can handle being nuts, but the girls could NOT, she spoke in tounges and thought we were gonna kill her, almost got us arrested, screamed outside her house at the top of her lungs when we went to bring her home cause she was gonna go running out of the house, NUTS..she apologized the next day and said she just really KNEW we were going to kill her... This straw casing had a number of things that I think may have attributed to potency loss, but it sounds exactly like the white rice...


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


Edited by scatmanrav (07/23/05 02:34 PM)


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Re: Substrate Strength Comparisons? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4443017 - 07/23/05 02:30 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Strange. That would suck to produce a nice harvest and they do not even work :frown:


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Re: Substrate Strength Comparisons? [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4443216 - 07/23/05 03:41 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I ate about 2 grams yesterday of WBS/manure shrooms. They had about the kick of an eigth of BRF mushrooms. Of course if you are new to shrooming and are a skinny guy and especially if you don't do pot, I wouldn't recommend over 1.5 grams of ANY type of cube until you've tripped a little more. I've seen people like that totally freak at 2 grams.


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Re: Substrate Strength Comparisons? [Re: Blue Helix]
    #4443421 - 07/23/05 04:42 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I agree, I have tripped alot, but they were my first poo shrooms that night, luckily I only dosed 1.5 so I could drive people home in 3 hours when they were all wigging out. Normally I dont drive tripping, but there have been circumstances that require it. That was a very strong trip though for what it was.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Substrate Strength Comparisons? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4443524 - 07/23/05 05:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Wow tripping good on 2 grams. I will have to get into poo someday.....


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