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Salvia non-smoking techniques...Drink? Vapor?
    #4437728 - 07/22/05 01:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I really don't like to smoke so looking for other methods.

Have already read about most including quids and tinctures, but was curious if you would be able to steep salvia in some kind of alcholic beverage and get anything out of it. By steep I mean if you were to place some leaves or extract in a jar of alcohol and let it sit for weeks to months, could this be used to get any sort of a trip? Maybe holding the drink in your mouth and using mouthwash method? Friends have done wormwood like this (fake absinthe) and have gotten a bit of a rise.

Also I read somewhere about vaporization of salvia and it being the most powerful/quickest method - but potentially too powerful and needing a partner almost always. Has anyone tried vaporization, what were your methods, and how did it work for you?


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Re: Salvia non-smoking techniques...Drink? Vapor? [Re: yep]
    #4437767 - 07/22/05 01:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Chew the leaves.

I chewed 10gr fresh leaves (1-2gr dried) and after 15min got a good trip going that went on strong until 1 hour into it with a comedown that was only complete after another hour. So two hours with no smoking at all.
Use leaves!


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Re: Salvia non-smoking techniques...Drink? Vapor? [Re: yep]
    #4437769 - 07/22/05 01:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Forgot to mention tea...will I have any luck with that?

I know some of you will mention that if these methods work they are wasteful - as smoking uses less, but I am looking for a non-smoking method here :smile:

Also plans are to grow my own plants if the leaves themselves will be effective enough, at least to "feel good" not necessarily blow my mind


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Re: Salvia non-smoking techniques...Drink? Vapor? [Re: Asante]
    #4437773 - 07/22/05 01:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hmm, you think I could get the same on homegrown plants?

thats good news that you got going on chewing - of course thats how the original users did it :smile: (i think)


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Re: Salvia non-smoking techniques...Drink? Vapor? [Re: yep]
    #4437807 - 07/22/05 01:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Your choices are pretty much limited to:

A quid (as wiccan said, and this is the traditional method too), a tincture (mix the leaves with everclear or some high proof alcohol, do a few washes, filter, and voila), or you could try vaporizing it, but you would have to have a vaporizer set to the hotest setting.


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Re: Salvia non-smoking techniques...Drink? Vapor? [Re: yep]
    #4437808 - 07/22/05 01:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yea, you can do it with homegrown plants.


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Re: Salvia non-smoking techniques...Drink? Vapor? [Re: OisatsanaYert]
    #4437812 - 07/22/05 01:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ok thanks for the help, now just to order some.

Anyplace where I could find a good method of doing the tincture? Just a basic timeframe on letting the leaves sit


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Re: Salvia non-smoking techniques...Drink? Vapor? [Re: yep]
    #4438569 - 07/22/05 04:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well there are faq's here on salvia tea, use lots of leaves.
the effects are rather mild.
I use six grams dried - the tea has to be vigorously stirred. it tastes pretty bad.

when I make salvia tea, I redry the used tea leaves since 5/6 of the salvinorin is still in them - I do acetone extraction on that.


so tea is about 1/6th as effective as chewing the leaves, and chewing the leaves is about 1/40th as effective as inhallation.


so if you don't like smoking, that leaves vaporization.
but, it is hard to measure 300-500 micrograms, so
what I have learned is to impregnate cigarettepapers with salvinorin and to cut up the papers when they dry.

I put ~20 milligrams salvinorin on one cigarette paper and cut that into ~40 pieces -> for 40 quick puffs.

I swear the combustion is less than 2 seconds.

it is the most effective thing.


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Re: Salvia non-smoking techniques...Drink? Vapor? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4440923 - 07/23/05 02:20 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

if you think youre gonna trip on salvia welp, er youre in for a ride. lol good luck!


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