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Homemade (Passion Flower) tincture
    #4437725 - 07/22/05 01:12 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

I'm interested in a making a tincture. From what I've read I would fill a quart jar 3/4 full of plant matter and then fill the rest of the jar with alcohol (or grapeseed oil?), let sit, and strain. Well... then I would have a quart of passion flower vodka. I am not keen on getting drunk off the stuff I just want the passion flower. What if I wanted to reduce or concentrate this? Would I first have to do a simple extraction and then tincture the "goo"?

The goal is to take a mass of passion flower and try to put it into a 2oz amber dropper bottle. I've bought this stuff for anxiety before and would like to try make it myself and possibly duplicate the procedure with other plants.

Thanks for any help!


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Re: Homemade tinctures [Re: SweetJimmyBrown]
    #4437768 - 07/22/05 01:24 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

How to make a tincture, the herbalist way:

Commonly herbalists use a weight to volume ratio to figure out how much alchohol to put in the tincture. The folk method is simply, cut up the herbs, put them in a jar, and cover with alchohol. This method works fine. If you would like a consistent dose with each batch you make you do what is called a weight to volume ratio..

We just made a yarrow tincture yesterday, we did a 1:5 ratio. We had 11 ounces of herb, so we added 55 ounces of liquid. At a 50:50 ratio of organic grain alchohol to water. Vodka by itself is already around that so you wouldnt need to add anymore water.

Either way will work fine. You can put the tincture in a window that will get maybe around 1 hour of sunlight the first day, then move to somewhere dark. Shake at least once every other day, preferably ever day, for 4 weeks. Strain threw a cheese cloth, and squeeze all the liquid out of whats left over.

Pretty simple really, good luck concentrating Im not sure on that part.
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Re: Homemade tinctures [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4446215 - 07/24/05 10:03 AM (12 years, 27 days ago)

hey so also can vegetable glucose be used, or what about almond or coconut oil.. i have heard yes and no about the last 2.. i am trying to make tinctures with no alcohol. does anyone have any experience that the veg glucose work just as well?


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Re: Homemade tinctures [Re: bmarley3434]
    #4446426 - 07/24/05 12:26 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

I've read about the use of veg. glucose, but not the last two. I'm planning on usining glucose as it's cheaper than grape seed oil although it does not keep as long as alcohol (glucose= 1-2 years, alcohol= indefinately). If the coconut or almond oil ($$?) are feasible then they might keep longer than the glucose so if you get any info let me know!

I suppose I'll just do a crude extraction of... whatever the desirable compounds are... reduce and then make a tincture out of that.

Unless there is a better way...

Thanks for the info on weight/volume ratios.


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    #4446792 - 07/24/05 02:56 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Does anyone know if the sedative/anxiolytic properties of Passion Flower are caused by the beta carbolines or another compound... or a mixture of compounds?


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Re: ALSO... [Re: SweetJimmyBrown]
    #4447275 - 07/24/05 05:51 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

^ ^ Nevermind ^ ^

Flavonoids; apigenin and various glycosides, homoorientin, isovitexin, kaempferol, luteolin, orientin, quercitin, rutin, saponaretin, saponarin and vitexen.

The flavonoids in passion flower are the primary constituents responsible for its relaxing and anti-anxiety effects. European pharmacopoeias typically recommend passion flower products containing no less than 0.8% total flavonoids. The European literature involving passion flower recommends it primarily for anti-anxiety treatment; in this context, it is often combined with valerian, lemon balm, and other herbs with sedative properties.


Also this:

"In-depth analysis of the phytochemical properties of Passiflora has led to the identification of several flavonoids that are believed to be the primary constituents responsible for Passion Flower's relaxing anti-anxiety effects, including vitexin, isovitexin, chrysin and orientin.1,2,3

Chrysin, specifically, has been shown to possess anxiolytic actions without inducing sedation or muscle relaxation. Though the exact mechanism of chrysin's action is not yet known, researchers postulate that this natural monoflavonoid is a partial agonist of the central benzodiazepine receptors in the brain.4"


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I'm as calm as a fruit stand in New york and maybe as strange.
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Re: ALSO... [Re: SweetJimmyBrown]
    #4449551 - 07/25/05 05:27 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Something you may find interesting in case you go for the harmala alkaloids:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4232943


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